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R. P. McMurphy

(837 posts)
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 12:44 PM Nov 2014

WRITE-IN WARREN!

I don't care if she's running or not. Unless someone steps up as a declared candidate, delivers the same message and is willing to take the fight to the repressives; I'm writing-in her name in BOTH the next primary and general elections.

I'm tired of Democrats who won't fight back. We know what needs to be done and, in my opinion, she delivers that message the best.

I challenge you to join me and to encourage others to as well. Let's at least write her in during our state's primaries to send a message that we want something besides business as usual. Talk to young people and let them know that they don't have to settle for whomever is on the ballot. If we commit and start talking this up now, maybe we can have enough people at primary time to push our party to the left.

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WRITE-IN WARREN! (Original Post) R. P. McMurphy Nov 2014 OP
That's basically my plan, except I expect that there will be better candidates named on the ballots. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #1
Welcome President Walker! yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #29
I don't care. I won't vote for Hillary Clinton. nt NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #32
Who said you have to? yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #33
Hillary is the best thing that could happen for the INdemo Nov 2014 #30
I love Warren, but DFW Nov 2014 #2
Great plan! rock Nov 2014 #3
lol! Indeed. nt Zorra Nov 2014 #5
Writing in a candidate in the Presidential election is complete fail. Zorra Nov 2014 #4
I am no longer willing to vote for the lesser of two evils. I know there are many others peacebird Nov 2014 #6
Bull. Shit. Rosco T. Nov 2014 #8
Nope. Just saying I will no longer give my vote to the lesser of two evils peacebird Nov 2014 #11
But you will help the 'thug win by lessening the Dem's vote count... Rosco T. Nov 2014 #19
+1 Historic NY Nov 2014 #31
So essentially, you're saying that ... frazzled Nov 2014 #15
No it's cause they don't get a pony... Rosco T. Nov 2014 #20
In states that are sure to go Blue, it's not. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #7
did we learn nothing from this disaster election? backwoodsbob Nov 2014 #14
Bingo! peacebird Nov 2014 #16
The only solution is world revolution. Not voting for a Democrat is not going to change the system. Zorra Nov 2014 #17
I understand what you are saying backwoodsbob Nov 2014 #18
Yes, I realize that. But they know, and we know, that they have us by the short hairs. Zorra Nov 2014 #26
I 100% agree with that backwoodsbob Nov 2014 #27
I figured you would. Zorra Nov 2014 #28
true enough backwoodsbob Nov 2014 #34
There are no write-in votes in my state. NaturalHigh Nov 2014 #9
Translation: Hi guys, I'm useless. nt Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #10
Well now, that sounds like something a crazy person would suggest. The_Commonist Nov 2014 #12
Kind of early Andy823 Nov 2014 #13
The GOP would just love that.. DCBob Nov 2014 #21
Yeah, that's a winning strategy! n/t beaglelover Nov 2014 #22
How about waiting to see who runs before deciding what to do? MineralMan Nov 2014 #23
Why don't you just write in Ralph Nader? You'll get the same results. eom Cleita Nov 2014 #24
To be honest, if she was the nominee I'm not sure I would be able to vote for her. Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #25
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. That's basically my plan, except I expect that there will be better candidates named on the ballots.
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 12:48 PM
Nov 2014

There have been every other race that had a Clinton running.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
29. Welcome President Walker!
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 02:52 PM
Nov 2014

Seriously I know this talk is two years early and an extremely small percentage would do such a thing, but ever vote counts especially in close elections.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
33. Who said you have to?
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 03:52 PM
Nov 2014

You are free to vote for whom ever you want. Results you may have to live with though.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
30. Hillary is the best thing that could happen for the
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 02:52 PM
Nov 2014

the Republicans In November 2016, What happens on the morning after when Democrats say "damn we got our ass kicked again"?
And it is to late to take a second look at other Democratic candidates that could have won .
And then in 2018 another Republican victory and by then the Koch Brothers would have most of their agenda in place. Talk about the Corporate United States,the world would see and new United States

DFW

(54,684 posts)
2. I love Warren, but
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 12:51 PM
Nov 2014

I will not blow my energy on a candidate who has not declared that they want this (much less one who has said she does not).

That goes for Elisabeth Warren, Hillary Clinton, and Alexander Throttlebottom.

If there are Democrats out there that are ready to step up and say, "I am a candidate for your nomination to the presidency," let them say so.

Since blow out and candidate fatigue are a serious danger, and no one in their right mind wants to do a 2 year run for the presidency, I'm going to sit this argument out for a year. I don't care who eats corn in Dubuque in the meantime.

rock

(13,218 posts)
3. Great plan!
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 12:51 PM
Nov 2014

For splitting the vote and assuring a repiggie president. You must be very proud of having shaped such a nefarious idea.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
4. Writing in a candidate in the Presidential election is complete fail.
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 12:52 PM
Nov 2014

The write in candidate has no chance of winning.

The worst Democrat is always better than the best republican

Fuck republicans, they either ignorant, evil, or both, respectively.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
6. I am no longer willing to vote for the lesser of two evils. I know there are many others
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 12:57 PM
Nov 2014

who are also sick of that.

If that is the best reason to vote for a Dem that you can come up with, then the Dem deserves to lose.

Rosco T.

(6,496 posts)
8. Bull. Shit.
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 01:10 PM
Nov 2014

If that is the best reason to vote for a Dem that you can come up with, then the 'Thug deserves to win."

FIFY


.. since that's what you're really saying

Rosco T.

(6,496 posts)
19. But you will help the 'thug win by lessening the Dem's vote count...
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 01:44 PM
Nov 2014

.. it's called MATH (thank you Pres Clinton)

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
15. So essentially, you're saying that ...
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 01:25 PM
Nov 2014

you don't give a crap about protecting a woman's right to choose, environmental and energy regulation, ensuring that marriage equality is extended to all 50 states, immigration reform, the right to collectively bargain, etc. etc. etc. You'll be just as happy when the Republicans manage to rescind the extension of Medicaid to millions of poor Americans.

All these things are official positions of the Democratic party, and whether they are always successful or not, these are things (along with others) that Democrats at least TRY to enact/enforce. The official position of the Republican party is dead opposite on these issues. See, for a start, http://blogs.kqed.org/lowdown/files/2012/11/Party-Platforms-Compared.pdf

Real liberals don't just think about themselves when approaching voting. It's not about your conscience. It's not about YOU. It's a social contract for the communal good, and it's about making a hard decision about what is best for others who may be facing critical needs even when you don't. So if you care, for example, about gun violence or racial discrimination or safety nets, you don't throw up your hands because, say, you didn't get a public option. There are critical governmental posts and court appointments that make a true difference, depending on whether a Democratic Congress or Republican Congress gets elected. We are still living with the insanely bad effects of the 1990s Republican Congress. But you don't care, because you didn't get your pony. I find that illiberal to the max.

Rosco T.

(6,496 posts)
20. No it's cause they don't get a pony...
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 01:45 PM
Nov 2014

... RIGHT NOW! So they stamp their widdle feet, throw a tantrum and the rest of us get punished for it.
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
7. In states that are sure to go Blue, it's not.
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 01:00 PM
Nov 2014

Where there's a chance the Republican might win, it's obviously dangerous.

Republicans don't have a monopoly on greed, ignorance, or evil.

We have a few DINOs who have demonstrated all three characteristics.

 

backwoodsbob

(6,001 posts)
14. did we learn nothing from this disaster election?
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 01:23 PM
Nov 2014

Vote for us because we arent them doesn't work anymore.
People are looking for someone to vote FOR...NOT someone to vote against

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
17. The only solution is world revolution. Not voting for a Democrat is not going to change the system.
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 01:36 PM
Nov 2014

Tell me, honestly: Despite everything you don't like about Obama, haven't the last 6 years been much better than the previous 8 years under Bush?

I totally get what you are saying and feeling. I feel the same way. But wasting any opportunity to prevent the damage of another Bush administration is fail.

I'd rather get at least a few perks under a Democrat than lockdown, war, another "terrorist attack", and another economic collapse under another Bush administration.

 

backwoodsbob

(6,001 posts)
18. I understand what you are saying
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 01:42 PM
Nov 2014

But you have to realize people are tired of being told that with a dem you will get day old bread instead of moldy bread while the rich eat caviar morning noon and night

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
26. Yes, I realize that. But they know, and we know, that they have us by the short hairs.
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 02:10 PM
Nov 2014

There are two possible avenues of redress that I can think of.

The most effective would be focused, mass non-violent revolution. Mass general strike, don't buy anything, don't pay anything. We can't defeat them with violence, or through the political system that they control.

The best way to force greedy people to negotiate is to take away what they love most in the world: Money, power (control), and toys. If we simply stay home and don't operate their system for them, they can't arrest us, can't beat us up, can't kill us. It's kind of economic guerrilla warfare.The reason they were able to violently crush Occupy is that we were in the parks and streets, so they could tell us that exercising our freedom of expression was illegal, and therefore, they could beat us, pepper spray us, and lock us up.

If enough of us are all just sitting in our homes for a week, not participating in their game, what are they going to do? The only thing they can do is call a Waaambulance, or negotiate with the 99%.

In the meantime, they're losing billions and billions of dollars a day, their entire system is fucked. It will take a lot of personal sacrifice by the 99%, and we would need to plan ahead to remain comfortable during the non-action.

What it boils down to, are we willing to accept that our liberty and democracy is over forever, for the sake of temporary safety and security? Or are we going to take action that may be uncomfortable in order to secure a satisfactory future for ourselves and future generations?

The other possibility is to elect leaders who are not under the control of the 1%, who will act to establish real democracy and will dedicate their efforts solely to promoting the well bein of the 1%. But this isn't ever going to happen, the PTB won't ever let it happen, and they have all the power in the world to ensure that it never happens.

So...the only solution is world revolution.



 

backwoodsbob

(6,001 posts)
27. I 100% agree with that
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 02:16 PM
Nov 2014

people are just damned frustrated.

If something doesn't give it WILL blow up eventually

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
28. I figured you would.
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 02:42 PM
Nov 2014

I'm as frustrated as anyone. And a big part of me wants to not vote for a lesser of two evils Democrat; and if it would do anything constructive except make me temporarily feel better, I wouldn't vote for one.

At least with a lesser of two evils Democrat we get a bit lube.

Hopefully, we'll get some kind of shot at nominating a real Democrat, who isn't another Trojan Horse of the 1%, but the odds are slim that they'll allow this to happen, they have too much money and talent to thwart any political challenges.

 

backwoodsbob

(6,001 posts)
34. true enough
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 04:05 PM
Nov 2014

we have no shot at a real progressive.Hillary is what it is going to be and yes I will vote for her...and i will hate it

The_Commonist

(2,518 posts)
12. Well now, that sounds like something a crazy person would suggest.
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 01:13 PM
Nov 2014

Something a person who has been dealt large doses of electro-shock would suggest.
A suggestion by someone who has had a lobotomy performed on them.
That sounds like a suggestion from someone who was smothered by a large man with a pillow in their sleep.

I hope you got it out of your system and feel better now.

It's November 9th, in the year 2014.
We won't be voting for or writing in anybody for about another year and a half.
Things will probably be quite different by then.

Andy823

(11,496 posts)
13. Kind of early
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 01:18 PM
Nov 2014

For all the right wing BS about how to "not" get a democrat in the WH come 2016. Then again I guess it's never to early for this kind of stupid posts designed to help the republicans.

MineralMan

(146,382 posts)
23. How about waiting to see who runs before deciding what to do?
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 02:00 PM
Nov 2014

That's what I recommend. The candidates announcements will be coming fairly soon, really. If Warren doesn't run, writing her in won't change the election in any way.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
25. To be honest, if she was the nominee I'm not sure I would be able to vote for her.
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 02:03 PM
Nov 2014

She was a Reagan Republican, a Bush Republican. She and her Party were my enemies in the 80's. She voted to re-elect Reagan after years of inaction and the deaths of thousands of Americans from AIDS. I understand that lots of you here were Reagan voters too. I was not. To win my vote Warren would have much explaining to do and it would still be hard for me to trust her as President, with civil rights and reproductive rights at stake when for so many years she opposed my rights, opposed choice and was very comfortable with racist political rhetoric.
That's just how it really really is.

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