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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 12:08 PM Sep 2014

On the other hand, I started reading Tacitus again. This war isn't remotely new.

The Belgicae (only a geographical relation to the modern Belgians) did the same. In fact, this isn't remotely newly-trod ground: violent insugencies are very, very good at sucking superpowers into ground wars. You might say it's what they do best. There is nothing new under the Sun.

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On the other hand, I started reading Tacitus again. This war isn't remotely new. (Original Post) Recursion Sep 2014 OP
Ah, yes. Germania. Jackpine Radical Sep 2014 #1
History's motto: "Eadem sed aliter" . . . Journeyman Sep 2014 #2
It's funny, Herodotus had a similar saying Recursion Sep 2014 #9
It is a common theme, Bluenorthwest Sep 2014 #10
Yep. If you study wars all the way from Troy to the present, Cleita Sep 2014 #3
Strange tactics. Downwinder Sep 2014 #4
I assume that's because ISIS are inside cities now. CJCRANE Sep 2014 #5
Well, right: ISIS wants to set up a "state", but that plays right into the US military's hands. Recursion Sep 2014 #7
But a city provides cover for them and makes it hard to get at them. CJCRANE Sep 2014 #8
That's also not new: see Thucydides Recursion Sep 2014 #6
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
10. It is a common theme,
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 03:49 PM
Sep 2014

"The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun."
Ecclesiastes 1

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
3. Yep. If you study wars all the way from Troy to the present,
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 12:23 PM
Sep 2014

there is nothing new and yet we still don't learn the lessons of history.

Downwinder

(12,869 posts)
4. Strange tactics.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 12:57 PM
Sep 2014

The supposedly superior force is employing hit and run raids and controlling no ground. Makes you wonder who the insurgents are.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
7. Well, right: ISIS wants to set up a "state", but that plays right into the US military's hands.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 01:01 PM
Sep 2014

There is literally no state in the history of the world that can stand up to the US military. ISIS's physical survival rests on not being a state, but their political legitimacy rests on becoming one.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
8. But a city provides cover for them and makes it hard to get at them.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 01:03 PM
Sep 2014

It's a classic baiting tactic.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
6. That's also not new: see Thucydides
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 01:00 PM
Sep 2014

It's one of the reasons I'm slightly (only slightly) less skeptical about this attempt than 2003.

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