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Sun Aug 10, 2014, 03:10 PM

 

Hillary Clinton Blasts ‘Unfair’ World Reaction Over Gaza, Cites Anti-Semitism As Factor



Former US secretary of state and potential presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton issued a staunch defense of Israel over its conduct of the war against Hamas, placed full ultimate responsibility on Hamas for the deaths of children and other innocent people, and defended Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s insistence on maintaining security control in the West Bank in the next few years.

In an interview published Sunday by Jeffrey Goldberg for The Atlantic, she also urged an “overarching” US strategy to confront Islamic terrorism, equating this struggle to the one the US waged against communism.

She spoke of the “failure” that arose from the Obama administration’s decision not to aid the initial uprising against Syria’s President Bashar Assad, which created a vacuum now filled by jihadists.

And overall, she indicated that she considered President Barack Obama’s approach to foreign policy to be too cautious. Responding to Obama’s self-described foreign policy doctrine of: “Don’t do stupid shit,” Clinton, who served as his top diplomat for four years between 2009 and 2013, said: “Great nations need organizing principles, and ‘Don’t do stupid stuff’ is not an organizing principle.”

Goldberg judged that Clinton indicated that she does intend to run for the presidency when, after he said to her that he felt the US, on balance, has done a good job of advancing the cause of freedom, she responded: “That’s how I feel! Maybe this is old-fashioned… I’m about to find out, in more ways than one.”

Read more: http://www.timesofisrael.com/hillary-clinton-blasts-unfair-world-reaction-over-gaza-cites-anti-semitism-as-factor/#ixzz3A1PoPgha


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Purveyor Aug 2014 OP
bravenak Aug 2014 #1
Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #28
JaydenD Aug 2014 #2
NightWatcher Aug 2014 #3
tularetom Aug 2014 #4
JaydenD Aug 2014 #6
Mira Aug 2014 #11
JaydenD Aug 2014 #5
Ikonoklast Aug 2014 #49
hifiguy Aug 2014 #7
AtomicKitten Aug 2014 #8
frylock Aug 2014 #9
Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #10
Autumn Aug 2014 #23
betterdemsonly Aug 2014 #12
sendero Aug 2014 #14
Jackpine Radical Aug 2014 #27
KittyWampus Aug 2014 #13
elehhhhna Aug 2014 #25
peacebird Aug 2014 #43
DanTex Aug 2014 #15
GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #16
Owl Aug 2014 #17
Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #18
oberliner Aug 2014 #19
Purveyor Aug 2014 #20
Crunchy Frog Aug 2014 #21
Purveyor Aug 2014 #22
IDemo Aug 2014 #24
Purveyor Aug 2014 #32
Cali_Democrat Aug 2014 #26
tritsofme Aug 2014 #29
alsame Aug 2014 #30
Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #31
Purveyor Aug 2014 #33
Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #35
Purveyor Aug 2014 #38
Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #40
elehhhhna Aug 2014 #57
Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #60
Liberal_Dog Aug 2014 #34
Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #36
Liberal_Dog Aug 2014 #42
Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #45
JaydenD Aug 2014 #58
99Forever Aug 2014 #37
indepat Aug 2014 #39
Purveyor Aug 2014 #41
KoKo Aug 2014 #44
DonCoquixote Aug 2014 #46
Purveyor Aug 2014 #47
elehhhhna Aug 2014 #59
ladjf Aug 2014 #48
n2doc Aug 2014 #50
bigwillq Aug 2014 #51
oldandhappy Aug 2014 #52
kysrsoze Aug 2014 #53
PoutrageFatigue Aug 2014 #54
Stellar Aug 2014 #55
tallahasseedem Aug 2014 #56
L0oniX Aug 2014 #61
Vattel Aug 2014 #62
Marrah_G Aug 2014 #63

Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 03:12 PM

1. Oh gawd!

 

She could really stop now. The lovefest between her and Bibi is disgusting.

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Response to bravenak (Reply #1)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 06:38 PM

28. It's only beginning. n/t

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 03:15 PM

2. The distancing from Obama has accelerated.

 

I'm a bit surprised at the caustic nature of it but I suppose they are still smarting over the upset in 2008 and hold grudges for a long while.

Very progressive of her, isn't it?

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 03:18 PM

3. and anyone who isn't her biggest fan is what, a raging sexist pig?

People can dislike actions taken without being anti-semites.

We cannot happen to dislike her because of statements like these? It must be because we are sexist? That is a cop out.

Wow, I hope someone else runs from our side (Ha!).

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 03:19 PM

4. Party unity my ass!

If you liked bush you're going to love hillary

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Response to tularetom (Reply #4)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 03:24 PM

6. She is going after the repubbie vote.

 

Makes perfect sense to me.

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Response to JaydenD (Reply #6)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 03:39 PM

11. Repubbie - the word just does not work for me.

But your sentiment does make sense, and the calculated dishonesty implied in her method cramps my gut

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 03:22 PM

5. How some feminsts can support this person

 

and call her a woman of peace and protector of women and children around the world.

How can one overlook these massive hints as to who she really is protecting?

I am flabbergasted.

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Response to JaydenD (Reply #5)

Mon Aug 11, 2014, 09:28 AM

49. Because they only see one thing.

And are blind to all of Hillary's love of warmongering.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 03:25 PM

7. Will definitely not be supporting her in the primaries.

 

Nope.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 03:30 PM

8. Repulsive stance on the genocide perpetrated by Israel.

 

Not even a second thought for the hundreds of children dead in Gaza. Shame on her.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 03:32 PM

9. GOTV!

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 03:33 PM

10. Yeah, well, she signed on to, and cheered, Bush's wars too.

 

And, will be given a pass by her admirers for this too.

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #10)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 06:20 PM

23. Not from this one. No more.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 03:44 PM

12. She's a neocon!

 

She is big friends with Robert Kagan and encouraged Obama to hire Victoria Nuland. There is nothing appealing about her foreign policy experience either, so I don't know why she thinks this is the only issue she should talk about.

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Response to betterdemsonly (Reply #12)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 03:48 PM

14. ^^^^^^^^..

..... plain as the nose on her face but the denial runs deep around here. We need another neocon president like we need a hole in the head.

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Response to sendero (Reply #14)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 06:37 PM

27. A good many people in the military

stand to get both.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 03:47 PM

13. I shudder to think what her "organizing principle" would be if she gets to be POTUS.

 

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #13)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 06:32 PM

25. military dickwaving to prove her toughness

 

she's made that clear

craven, cynical, and entitled

I will not vote for her.

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Response to elehhhhna (Reply #25)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 07:23 PM

43. Nor will I. Not in the primary, or the general election.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 03:51 PM

15. "... equating this struggle to the one the US waged against communism."

Well, she's kinda right in one sense: the US did a lot of horrible things in the name of fighting communism.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 05:10 PM

16. Bob Dylan's response to HRC is mine also ...

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 05:31 PM

17. Ugh.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 05:57 PM

18. It's rather disgustingly cynical for her...

to conflate Palestinian resistance to Israeli occupation and "Islamic terrorism". And the USA wonders why the Palestinians don't trust it as a negotiating partner in peace talks with Israel.

It's also pretty disgusting of her to jump to "anti-Semitism" as the cause of criticisms of Israel. Maybe Israel is criticised because it claims to be a liberal democracy whilst maintaining an occupation regime that many observers have likened to apartheid and thumbing its nose at international law. Which is really more shocking: that a brutal authoritarian regime engages in military action that results in thousands of deaths of civilians, or that the self-proclaimed "only democracy in the Middle East" does it, while claiming all the while to stand for Western values?

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 05:58 PM

19. Times of Israel?

 

That's the source you are going with?

How about maybe a link to the actual interview which is grossly misrepresented here by the right wing news source that you are posting from for some reason?

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Response to oberliner (Reply #19)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 06:03 PM

20. LOL. So the "Times of Israel" is taboo now eh? I'll check there more

 

frequently then if that is the case...

Of course you know I post 'outside of the box' or at least you would have if the previous Oberliner would have briefed you properly.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 06:08 PM

21. Well, there goes my 2016 vote.

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Response to Crunchy Frog (Reply #21)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 06:20 PM

22. I don't know what the hell I'm going to do come 2016. The good thing is

 

it is a long way off and lots of things can happen between now and then.

"Keep hope alive"!

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 06:23 PM

24. It's looking increasingly like

for the first time since my vote for Carter in '76, I won't be voting for a presidential candidate in 2016. Not that a Democratic vote means squat in this flaming red state, anyway.

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Response to IDemo (Reply #24)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 06:58 PM

32. President Carter was my first and most proudest vote also. First time since

 

then that I didn't vote in the Michigan primary this past Tuesday.

There really wasn't anyone that really needed my vote but I'll damn sure be at the polls in November unless prospective US Senator Gary Peters takes a 'junket/pilgrimage' to israel and has photo-ops with Bibi.

This is a Senate seat (Levins') we really need to keep!

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 06:35 PM

26. U guys...this is nothing new

 

During the 2008 primaries she talked about obliterating Iran.

She's uber-hawk for sure.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 06:43 PM

29. Couldn't agree more!

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 06:49 PM

30. From 2006

Clinton Vows to Back Israel in Latest Mideast Conflict
By PATRICK HEALY
Published: July 18, 2006

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton said yesterday that she supported “whatever steps are necessary” to defend Israel against Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran and Syria in the military conflict in the Middle East.

Addressing a crowd of several thousand in Midtown at an impassioned rally for Israel, she said America must show “solidarity and support” for Israel in the face of the “unwarranted, unprovoked” seizure of three Israeli soldiers by members of Hamas and Hezbollah, which she described as among “the new totalitarians of the 21st century.”

“We will stand with Israel because Israel is standing for American values as well as Israeli ones,” said Mrs. Clinton, who joined two dozen political and religious leaders on a stage a few blocks from the United Nations headquarters on the East Side.

Bringing the threat home, she compared Israel’s military response, which has included heavy bombardment of Lebanon, to a theoretical response by the United States if it faced attacks from neighboring countries. “I want us here in New York to imagine, if extremist terrorists were launching rocket attacks across the Mexican or Canadian border, would we stand by or would we defend America against these attacks from extremists?” she said to roars of approval.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/18/nyregion/18hillary.html?_r=0


Right out of the playbook.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 06:56 PM

31. Who here thinks they are promoting another candidate by trashing Hillary?

RW talking points should be left to Rush and Sean.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #31)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 06:59 PM

33. You ought to do a poll. This would be a good one, indeed. eom

 

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Response to Purveyor (Reply #33)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 07:05 PM

35. I read the post here, doesn't sound like a Democrat site at times. For thosecwho are not going

Vote for the DNC candidate will be contributing to the GOP vote wise. There isn't a perfect candidate but we need to present a strong candidate.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #35)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 07:10 PM

38. I suspect that most troops will rally after the 2016 primaries even if our

 

candidate is hillary.

Between now and then, she isn't going to have a easy ride with we liberals...not at all, especially with the shit that is coming out of her and her husbands mouth.

They both need an 'intervention', imo.



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Response to Purveyor (Reply #38)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 07:19 PM

40. Take a look at her stand on issues

http://www.ontheissues.org/Hillary_Clinton.htm

might find she more liberal than you think.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #31)

Mon Aug 11, 2014, 06:04 PM

57. Bag that. Nobody else is acting like they're entitled to the nomination.

 


And facts are facts.

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Response to elehhhhna (Reply #57)

Mon Aug 11, 2014, 07:45 PM

60. Nobody is acting like they are entitled the nomintion.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 07:02 PM

34. Nothing Really New

This is who and what HRC has always been.

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Response to Liberal_Dog (Reply #34)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 07:06 PM

36. At least she has voted for DNC candidates during her life.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #36)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 07:21 PM

42. Feel Free To Defend Hillary's Foreign Policy Positions If You Wish

Or keep on tossing "Party Loyalty" at everyone.

Your choice.

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Response to Liberal_Dog (Reply #42)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 07:38 PM

45. Thank you

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Response to Liberal_Dog (Reply #34)

Mon Aug 11, 2014, 06:09 PM

58. That is correct.

 

It is a shame she has fooled so many with her phony words about caring for people and their struggles. She is not a good person.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 07:09 PM

37. No surprise there.

Precisely in line with her character. As I have said for a very long time, I will never support or vote for her. This is a perfect example of why.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 07:17 PM

39. Everyone is out of step but the good ole US of A and Israel and any criticism of Israel's

right-wing policies, their wholesale slaughter of brown people using American-supplied advanced weaponry is anti-semitic. Thanks Hillary. By George W., I think I finally got it.

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Response to indepat (Reply #39)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 07:19 PM

41. Let us hope the voters finally 'get it' also. I know the younger ones are. eom

 

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 07:27 PM

44. Well....That Settles It! A vote for Hillary/Bill TwoFer...is a Vote for Bibi!

YES! Let's get that vote out RIGHT NOW....More and Better Democrats....Make Sure you are signed up for 2014 and 16 and FIGHT BACK against Gerrymandering and Koch Brothers so that AMERICAN VOTERS CAN VOTE FOR: "THE TWINS!" with a THIRD!

"Hillary/Bill" (Two Experienced for the Price of One) and make sure that BiBi is written IN on the Ballot if you don't want the TWO FER! If you vote for "Hillary/Bill" he is "Included in your Packaged Price" ...but, Just in Case!

Sorry....a little OTT about this. How can anyone expect this to be a Winning Platform unless the Tea Partiers figure Bill & Hillary are working to Fulfill "Revelations Predictions" from the Old Testament Bible!



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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 07:47 PM

46. Bottom line is

For all those who think Hillary is a liberal, the fact remains, she has made it clear whose side she is NOT on. Let's face it, if Hillary, even in the spirit of outright cynical demagouery, said she would make Bibi play nice, she would have golden palms laid at her feet. She won't.

Do not get me wrong, I know that until at least two of the current right wing scotus are out, by whatever means needed, we cannot let any GOP come within smell distance of the Oval Office. but do not be surprised if that money runs really dry come donation time.

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Response to DonCoquixote (Reply #46)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 07:54 PM

47. A lot will depend on who the GOP puts up. Romney scares the hell out of

 

me this time around and can easily beat Hillary, imo.

We all should be hoping for a Cruz, Perry or Paul to level the playing field.

Hmmm...that would be a good name for the "gospel singing group".

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Response to Purveyor (Reply #47)

Mon Aug 11, 2014, 06:15 PM

59. ffs we are wishing that the stupidest people are running?

 

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Mon Aug 11, 2014, 09:08 AM

48. That's it for me Mrs. Clinton. I have NO confidence in your

integrity. It's going to be bitter pill for me if I have to vote for you in the future.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Mon Aug 11, 2014, 09:34 AM

50. She should convert to Judaism n/t

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Mon Aug 11, 2014, 09:41 AM

51. I wish Hillary would just go away.

 

She is so annoying.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Mon Aug 11, 2014, 09:47 AM

52. and what about those who are anti-gaza?

This has to be about money.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Mon Aug 11, 2014, 11:15 AM

53. Man, I hope Bernie Sanders runs.

We REALLY need pressure from the left. Of course he probably won't get any coverage from the press

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Mon Aug 11, 2014, 11:20 AM

54. So it looks like the Democrats won't have a candidate next year?

 

Just two versions of republicans?

That's just peachy...

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Mon Aug 11, 2014, 11:26 AM

55. Clinton and Netanyahu

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Mon Aug 11, 2014, 11:42 AM

56. What the...

Hell? I have been an outspoken supporter, but this is getting ridiculous.

Maybe she should ask Al Gore how distancing himself from the sitting Democratic President during his election worked out for him?

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Mon Aug 11, 2014, 07:49 PM

61. So ...uhm ...am I still going to be attacked for saying I will never vote for Hillary?

 

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Mon Aug 11, 2014, 07:50 PM

62. She is too steeped in the usual rationalizations for murder.

 

I will not vote for her even in the general. Obama is bad enough on military policy. We don't need someone worse.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Mon Aug 11, 2014, 08:00 PM

63. I will not vote for her, even if she is the nominee.

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