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Get your shit together, America. (Original Post) MrScorpio Aug 2014 OP
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #1
Why do you think we are so littlemissmartypants Aug 2014 #3
Family values! csziggy Aug 2014 #6
Because mega-corporations dominate our society, Wall Street is king and this permeates Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #9
Yes, but the meme is about not hurting small businesses that merrily Aug 2014 #11
I don't believe in trickle down economics but I do believe in trickle down modus operandi. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #15
I agree. The meme about small business is a smokescreen to protect huge business. merrily Aug 2014 #16
I totally agree, merrily, FUBAR sums it up quite well. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #17
And also to you. merrily Aug 2014 #18
KnR. We are so damn backward sometimes. nt Hekate Aug 2014 #2
Only because we have been so successfully brainwashed. stillwaiting Aug 2014 #22
While we're at it let's do single-payer health care and Ron Green Aug 2014 #4
Greed won't allow that. SammyWinstonJack Aug 2014 #8
We avoid cries of socialism by telling private employers they have to pay, not the USG. merrily Aug 2014 #13
Good point. Major Hogwash Aug 2014 #5
But,.....that cuts into PROFITS!!!! Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #7
yep, that's the bottom line, has nothing to do with the common good nt steve2470 Aug 2014 #19
And, of those 3 countries, we are the largest by far. merrily Aug 2014 #10
Or ... Kablooie Aug 2014 #12
Today a friend posted on his Facebook a table LibDemAlways Aug 2014 #14
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Aug 2014 #20
k&r for labor. n/t Laelth Aug 2014 #21

Uncle Joe

(58,356 posts)
9. Because mega-corporations dominate our society, Wall Street is king and this permeates
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 04:09 AM
Aug 2014

throughout our nation.

We have come to worship two things, the almighty dollar and short term vision.

Our nation, Republicans in particular may give lip service to "family values" but their actions betray their words, the only family they care about is the Golden Calf.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
11. Yes, but the meme is about not hurting small businesses that
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 04:41 AM
Aug 2014

create most of the jobs and are "the backbone of this country."

If you cannot afford to be an employer, maybe your business model is not that great.

In any event, you have no right to expect employees to make personal sacrifices, just to be sure that you make a profit, any more than you would expect your landlord or your suppliers to make personal sacrifices to ensure that your business stays afloat. That is not personal responsibility by any means.

Uncle Joe

(58,356 posts)
15. I don't believe in trickle down economics but I do believe in trickle down modus operandi.
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 05:01 AM
Aug 2014

Too many small businesses are influenced by mega-corporate actions and the U.S. corporate media.

I agree with you about the oft promoted meme of "not hurting small businesses" but I'm convinced the real concerns of those in power are the vast quantities of money coming from the major corporations; they're the power brokers.

This is especially true after Citizens United it's not just the money but major propaganda power as well, they shape to a large degree the values that our society prioritizes.

How often do you see honest and open comparisons by the corporate media of U.S. business practices to that of more enlightened or progressive nations?

They should be consistently doing that, not just on occasion or once in a blue moon.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
16. I agree. The meme about small business is a smokescreen to protect huge business.
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 05:07 AM
Aug 2014

As far as media, they are FUBAR.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
22. Only because we have been so successfully brainwashed.
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 02:05 PM
Aug 2014

We have been carefully programmed to not recognize the importance and value of community/the commons/empathy. The elite have been wildly successful in the U.S. We are a nation with a huge number of assholes within it.

Ron Green

(9,822 posts)
4. While we're at it let's do single-payer health care and
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 03:48 AM
Aug 2014

a comprehensive passenger rail system.

We could be a "world class" country, with a little work.

SammyWinstonJack

(44,130 posts)
8. Greed won't allow that.
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 04:02 AM
Aug 2014
We could be a world class country, with a little work.

And then there is that whole ¨socialism¨ thing that scares the crap outta the average repug.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
13. We avoid cries of socialism by telling private employers they have to pay, not the USG.
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 04:43 AM
Aug 2014

But, socialism is government's owning the means of production and, no matter who bears the cost of family leave, the US is a very long way from that.

We need to stop letting the right use that word incorrectly with impunity.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
5. Good point.
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 03:52 AM
Aug 2014

We only have about 2 days -- on that first weekend -- to get used to just having a new baby, and then . . wham!, it's back to the salt mines we go.

It's about as damned backward as having to have a paid insurance policy before we call the doctor to set up an appointment with them for a health checkup.
I swear, if healthcare insurance isn't a racket, then my name is Morgan Freeman.

*cue voiceover*

Oh, but it is a racket.
And that's why we need a single payer program like the Medicare program to apply to all the people.




Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
12. Or ...
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 04:42 AM
Aug 2014

Since America is the greatest country the world has ever known, the other countries should catch up with us and eliminate paid family leave.

Can't allow people to go around criticizing God's country now, can we?

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
14. Today a friend posted on his Facebook a table
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 04:44 AM
Aug 2014

showing that, unlike other more civilized countries, the US has no laws mandating employee vacation time. Wouldn't you know a rightwing idiot immediately weighed in that if people want time off they should move to one of those other countries.

I'm sure the response to paid family leave would be much the same. There's no reasoning with morons.

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