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nationalize the fed

(2,169 posts)
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 12:35 AM Jul 2014

Urban Farming: 6,000 Pounds of Food on 1/10 Acre



Over 6,000 pounds of food per year, on 1/10 acre located just 15 minutes from downtown Los Angeles. The Dervaes family grows over 400 species of plants, 4,300 pounds of vegetable food, 900 chicken and 1,000 duck eggs, 25 lbs of honey, plus seasonal fruits throughout the year.

From 1/10th of an acre, four people manage to get over 90% of their daily food and the family reports earnings of $20,000 per year (AFTER they eat from what is produced). This is done without the use of the expensive & destructive synthetic chemicals associated with industrial mono-cropping, while simultaneously improving the fertility and overall condition of the land being used to grow this food on. Scaled up to an acre, that would equal $200,000 per year!

To follow the Dervaes and their Urban Homesteading activites, you can find them at http://urbanhomestead.org

MORE: http://ftmflix.com/video_listing/urban-farming-6000-pounds-of-food-on-110-acre/

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Urban Farming: 6,000 Pounds of Food on 1/10 Acre (Original Post) nationalize the fed Jul 2014 OP
I listened to the guy who runs this place at last years Heirloom Seed Expo in Santa Rosa: AnotherDreamWeaver Jul 2014 #1
So they live in poverty, but with vegetables? n/t jtuck004 Jul 2014 #2
Likely they've got outside income. 1/10th of an acre is not a full time job. Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #6
Yeah, 4 people and $20K a year isn't a lot. It's a cool project, but jtuck004 Jul 2014 #8
Also add in the savings for buying food BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #10
All while we are subsidizing processed food mfrs and people who grow and sell the most unhealthy jtuck004 Jul 2014 #12
people who grow their own are "lighting a candle" KurtNYC Jul 2014 #14
We have more working poor than we have had in years. They light the darkness too, when they can jtuck004 Jul 2014 #17
I often wonder about my yuppie friends BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #20
People miss the real value in farms. As illustrated, it SURE as hell ain't in raisin crops - Mi$$ jtuck004 Jul 2014 #21
Many new things are edible when you are hungry enough <G> jtuck004 Jul 2014 #18
It's also how we help each other BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #19
I've read about them before. The four of them only do this for a living riderinthestorm Jul 2014 #13
The home they live in would be worth several hundred thousand dollars and would not be Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #16
Make it weed and ya got something. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #3
A nice visit from a federal agent maybe... User_Friendly Jul 2014 #5
Some of those types are so stupid they believe weed can turn you into a lizard.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #7
You ought to see all the new warehouses full of growing pot - there aren't enough jtuck004 Jul 2014 #9
Today it begins... KurtNYC Jul 2014 #15
Brilliant! mackerel Jul 2014 #4
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #11
Their climate helps. WinkyDink Jul 2014 #22
That's 1.4 pounds per square foot. Courtesy Flush Jul 2014 #23

AnotherDreamWeaver

(2,850 posts)
1. I listened to the guy who runs this place at last years Heirloom Seed Expo in Santa Rosa:
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 01:07 AM
Jul 2014
http://www.singingfrogsfarm.com/Home.html

They sell great produce at the local farmers markets.

(edit for spelling)
 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
8. Yeah, 4 people and $20K a year isn't a lot. It's a cool project, but
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 03:20 AM
Jul 2014

the whole story is important to let people know what is possible and how.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
10. Also add in the savings for buying food
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 03:46 AM
Jul 2014

That's quite a lot. If a neighborhood got together and farmed a plot, think how much that would be. Add in after school students, part time workers who wish they could get more hours but can't, stay at home moms who figured out that daycare is too expensive, retirees, anyone willing and able, you would have a whole community that could feed itself. With the healthiest, freshest food. It wouldn't take much investment or work with everybody chipping in. Savings on bulk needs. Everyone composting. It really is the way forward.

I have read about whole towns in Europe being "edible" with front yard gardens where they coordinate who grows what. And you are welcome to come and pick what you need. That's a community I would love to live in!

http://eatyouryard.com/services/edible-neighborhoods-homepage/

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
12. All while we are subsidizing processed food mfrs and people who grow and sell the most unhealthy
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 12:15 PM
Jul 2014

of foods, helping them pay low wages while we give their employees food stamps...

And then we get excited because people can grow some food on land, and couldn't afford to do it if it wasn't for someone working outside to bring in income.

It's a cute show, but most people would be foreclosed on and homeless if they tried this.

The thing that makes this exciting is how pathetic it is in a country where we make you work all your life and then take money from you in the form of taxes and give it to the bastards that are hurting us, and making something like this impossible.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
14. people who grow their own are "lighting a candle"
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 12:40 PM
Jul 2014

instead of "cursing the darkness"

In many urban areas, urban ag is the ONLY way to get fresh or local or organic food.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
17. We have more working poor than we have had in years. They light the darkness too, when they can
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 04:41 PM
Jul 2014

pay the electric bill. Unlike bankers, who have been made wealthy by the past few years.

I think it's great, and they get some good exercise. but what they show is possible is that people can eke out potatoes on a place if the police don't run them off for trespassing, 'cause there ain't no way in hell they are paying for that place on $20,000 a year divided between 4 people.

Without outside income this wouldn't be there - it's more like a performance than what can really happen.

No one is putting down their work, just putting it into perspective and getting rid of the inedible and artificial and unnatural.

These growers think that is important, and I do too.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
20. I often wonder about my yuppie friends
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 05:20 PM
Jul 2014

Who are so excited from taking their children to activites, sports, etc. They say they have to keep up with a furious pace and an over-scheduled life for their children because colleges want "well-rounded" children. And people are complaining that many children are growing up sheltered, spoiled, and without a sense of empathy. Instead, we should be encouraging all that time and effort into helping the community, of working together. Kids used to help out on the farm or their parents business, but now we have extended childhood so long it's past 25. So many able bodies who would learn about giving and supporting their families and other people. And they would get paid for their work and could proudly feed their families. We all live such isolated lives, in little boxes that each take up too much resources separately. TPTB like it that way.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
21. People miss the real value in farms. As illustrated, it SURE as hell ain't in raisin crops - Mi$$
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 07:50 PM
Jul 2014

RobMe more money in an hour, according to his tax returns, than the 4 of those make all year, including the food they eat.

But they have spirit, which is what your post suggests, and I think that would be more valuable than money right now.

He, otoh, is an empty shell of what might be called a GMO human.






 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
18. Many new things are edible when you are hungry enough <G>
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 04:42 PM
Jul 2014

But that is a good idea for a town, and it should be expanded.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
19. It's also how we help each other
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 05:14 PM
Jul 2014

I'm tired of begging corporations and the politicians they own to help us. I want us to help each other, to feed each other. I want to help grow enough food to give away. I already pass out fruit and veg from our small apartment plot around the neighborhood. There was a retired man, living in an apt complex who started a garden in the front (dirt) lawn of the foreclosed house next door. The water was turned off, so he and his buddies carried it by bucket to water. They hung out, worked on the garden and had a great time giving stuff away to everyone in the neighborhood. The bank put up a 12 ft chickenwire fence to keep them out. Bastards.

There was a great TED talk about using the strips of grass along sidewalks to farm. Especially in poor neighborhoods, it's a fantastic idea. At our farmer's market we have two urban farm groups who sell their produce.

http://www.ted.com/talks/ron_finley_a_guerilla_gardener_in_south_central_la

We have to remember that we can take care of ourselves without working like slaves. We are not completely helpless.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
13. I've read about them before. The four of them only do this for a living
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 12:28 PM
Jul 2014

They make money through workshops and events. Iirc, they also sell stuff like baked goods and equipment.

But this is their full time gig for all of them.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
16. The home they live in would be worth several hundred thousand dollars and would not be
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 12:46 PM
Jul 2014

affordable without much more than 20K a year even if rented.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
9. You ought to see all the new warehouses full of growing pot - there aren't enough
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 03:26 AM
Jul 2014

federal agents to keep up with them, unless they would rather bust business than people who are hurting others, who might shoot back. Cowards.

And that doesn't say anything for the likely hundreds of thousands of people with little pot plants that put out a few ounces every 4-5 months.

It's past the point where most people care, and federal pressure may well backfire. Along with pressure from the fascist ass clowns who are joining to try and shove it back underground, tilting at windmills.

Courtesy Flush

(4,558 posts)
23. That's 1.4 pounds per square foot.
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 08:07 PM
Jul 2014

Doesn't sound like much, but I'll be lucky to get 1.4 pounds out of my whole garden this year!

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