Huh! Next thing, Obama will be inviting future Jihadis to the Oval Office! Oh, wait . . .

[Triana]

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(Pretentious Hypocrisy is the Hallmark of Republicans)

[pinto]

1. +1

Good find.

[scarletwoman]

3. Editing my post because the inaccurate meme thing has been replaced.

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Now it IS a good find.

The photo and the policy depicted are true, but the "Founding Fathers" quote was from Reagan speaking about the Contras in Nicaragua, not the Taliban.

I lived through those days, I remember it well. It was when Reagan was trying to convince Congress to increase funding for the Contras. Congress refused and thus Iran-Contra came to be - Reagan began secretly selling arms to Iran to get funds for the Contras.

I wrote the above in reference to the original, inaccurate "meme" that was first posted in the OP. The OP has now replaced it.

[pinto]

4. Thanks for the clarification.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

13. Back during the Reagan Years we were told the #1 threat was Columbian Drug Lords....

The TV show "Miami Vice" was propaganda for the War On Drugs the same way the TV show "24" is propaganda for the War On Terrorism.

To this day people honestly BELIEVE there were shootouts in the streets of Miami between drug cartels and the cops because they saw it every week on a TV show. The show shifted in it's later seasons to one that exposed The Big Lie. Everything from the US funding death squads to evil Wall Street bankers profiting off of the sale of cocaine.

Years from now the people who watch "24" will actually BELIEVE there were sleeper cells all over America and think torture worked to stop nukes from going off.

[jtuck004]

14. "Years from now..." <- I think you give them too much credit. They already do <G>. n/t

[Spitfire of ATJ]

15. I know someone who still refuses to admit they were wrong about Iraq.

[jtuck004]

16. We have taught people that to admit you were wrong is weak, and wrong. That would be

fighting against whole lifetimes of conditioning, of cultural control, maybe even bent spines from a lifetime of pressure.

Tough stuff

[Spitfire of ATJ]

17. Yeah,....but then there's this:

[scarletwoman]

2. Editing my post because the inaccurate meme thing has been replaced.

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Below is what I originally posted when the inaccurate "meme" was in the OP. Now that the OP has removed it, my objection no longer applies.

I applaud the OP's action in removing the offending meme, and I applaud the sentiment of the post.

Sorry, but Reagan did not say that "Founding Fathers" bit about the Taliban.

He said it about the Contras in Nicaragua. I lived through those days. I know this from my own memory, and I was utterly horrified when he said that.

Re-writing history to suit a stupid internet meme totally pisses me off. If people actually KNEW their history, they wouldn't be trying to pass off that quote as something it wasn't.

[Triana]

5. Changed the photo.

So as not to include the erroneous quote/meme thing.

GOP is still ridiculously hypocritical in their criticism of Obama's deal to get Mr. Bergdahl back considering much worse deals Republican presidents have made.

[scarletwoman]

6. Thank you! I really appreciate it!

And I totally agree with you on the GOP's hypocrisy.

I'll edit my own posts to reflect your change of photo - I don't want to take away from your overall excellent message.

Thank you again!

[jwirr]

7. So okay what is going on in this photo? Those guys are not contras.

[scarletwoman]

8. It's been fixed.

Internet memes - how NOT to spread accurate information!

[jwirr]

9. Thank you. I thought I would have remembered that if it had happened. However someone in his

administration met with the Iraqi officials in order to give them the weapons they bought with Iran Contra money. So it may be fixed but it does hold a grain of truth.

[scarletwoman]

10. Iran-Contra - it was all about selling weapons to Iran in order to fund the Contras.

Reagan DID also meet with Afghani Mujahideen, some of whom later became the Taliban.

This gives a fairly good overview of Reagan's excellent foreign policy adventures:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan_Doctrine#Reagan_Doctrine_and_the_Cold_War.27s_end

[jwirr]

11. Got my Iran/Iraq mixed up. That is what happens when you get older.

[scarletwoman]

12. That's okay, I actually assumed you meant Iran anyway, and went from there.

I'm old, too - I totally understand!

[indepat]

18. What else is there for pretentious dick-heads to do?

[calimary]

19. And don't forget bush/cheney's meeting with the Taliban just four or five months before 9/11.

Promising them - what was it? We promise you "a carpet of gold," versus "a carpet of bombs"

Until now, says the book, ''the oil and gas reserves of Central Asia have been controlled by Russia. The Bush government wanted to change all that''.

But, confronted with Taliban's refusal to accept U.S. conditions, ''this rationale of energy security changed into a military one'', the authors claim.

''At one moment during the negotiations, the U.S. representatives told the Taliban, 'either you accept our offer of a carpet of gold, or we bury you under a carpet of bombs','' Brisard said in an interview in Paris.

http://archive.democrats.com/view.cfm?id=5166

And photos...

https://www.google.com/search?q=george+w+bush+meeting+the+taliban&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=Q3aLU7ClI8X4oATM4oGACQ&ved=0CDIQsAQ&biw=1418&bih=673

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3618895

[Triana]

20. +1 n/t