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Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 08:07 AM Mar 2012

Anyone else think NRA $$$$ are funding the Trayvon Martin smear campaign?

Is it possible that the NRA was looking for "A perfect test case" for the SYG law and they thought they had it in Zimmerman?

Lord knows they've been profiting from the aftermath.

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Anyone else think NRA $$$$ are funding the Trayvon Martin smear campaign? (Original Post) Junkdrawer Mar 2012 OP
Wouldn't doubt it one bit. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2012 #1
We KNOW the NRA paid big $$$ to get SYG passed. But what use is the law... Junkdrawer Mar 2012 #2
Hmmm. Test case? TheCowsCameHome Mar 2012 #3
Witnesses are coming forward saying they were either ignored or coerced to give false testimony Junkdrawer Mar 2012 #6
Clearly. I proposed this last night. This is All about 'Stand Your Ground' laws. onehandle Mar 2012 #4
The SA and Police Chief walked the murder scene THE NIGHT OF THE MURDER... Junkdrawer Mar 2012 #9
I don't think we've seen the other shoe yet. sofa king Mar 2012 #5
cooper tossed him under the bus? i missed that, can you explain? HiPointDem Mar 2012 #8
Oh, it was just the classic smear job. sofa king Mar 2012 #21
Thanks. yeah, that's what passes for news and analysis these days. HiPointDem Mar 2012 #26
Makes sense. Clearly something going on. HiPointDem Mar 2012 #7
No. I think the media is searching and pushing for info. aikoaiko Mar 2012 #10
Can you name one where the shooter was released WITH NO CHARGES? Junkdrawer Mar 2012 #11
Google "stand your ground" "not charged" then try to weed through it - see this piece from MSNBC... slackmaster Mar 2012 #15
Hmmmm...This weekend, I'll try. Junkdrawer Mar 2012 #22
again someone proposses that the NRA are the boggyman belcffub Mar 2012 #12
Bat signal is out I see.... Junkdrawer Mar 2012 #13
yes... I am a high paid NRA operative... belcffub Mar 2012 #14
Would not suprise me. Tippy Mar 2012 #16
I hate to say it, but this kind of cover-up goes on all the time. We're just watching this one. yardwork Mar 2012 #17
Helped that he was from a relatively affluent suburban neighborhood, too. LAGC Mar 2012 #18
How is the NRA profiting? nt hack89 Mar 2012 #19
Mike Papantonio lays out the case far better than I ever could... Junkdrawer Mar 2012 #20
Actually I think the other explanations (racism etc) are better answers ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #23
A bad call by the SA & Police Chief the night of the crime. Damage control afterward. Junkdrawer Mar 2012 #24
Maybe some of it. toddwv Mar 2012 #25

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
2. We KNOW the NRA paid big $$$ to get SYG passed. But what use is the law...
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 08:21 AM
Mar 2012

if the police never let a perp walk citing the law?

Of course there would be a furor the first time. So they offered the SA and Police Chief BIG $$$$ to take it on. And after walking the murder scene and talking to a few neighbors, they decided to go for it.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
6. Witnesses are coming forward saying they were either ignored or coerced to give false testimony
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 08:30 AM
Mar 2012

I've been struggling with all kinds of theories, but this one is making the most sense...by far.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
4. Clearly. I proposed this last night. This is All about 'Stand Your Ground' laws.
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 08:23 AM
Mar 2012

I want to know the connections that those in charge of the cover-up have to the GOP and NRA.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002487713

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
9. The SA and Police Chief walked the murder scene THE NIGHT OF THE MURDER...
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 08:39 AM
Mar 2012

I think they were convincing themselves it was safe to take NRA $$$$.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
5. I don't think we've seen the other shoe yet.
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 08:28 AM
Mar 2012

I told my girlfriend that the shooter had to have some sort of juice to be let go, and he did through his father the judge.

But the psyop against Trayvon Martin suggests that's not all the juice Zimmerman has.

So I find myself asking things like, "was Zimmerman's father a FISA court judge, too?" Or, "does he have a brother or close friend who 'works for the government'?"

It's clearly an operation of some sort, though, managed from on high and sent down through cable news. NRA may be a part of it, but this incident and its attempted cover-up has all the trappings of our shadow government attempting to protect itself.

Who made Anderson Cooper toss this kid under the bus? That would be the way to unravel the influence back to its source.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
8. cooper tossed him under the bus? i missed that, can you explain?
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 08:33 AM
Mar 2012

I hate Anderson cooper anyway, so dish.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
21. Oh, it was just the classic smear job.
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 10:26 AM
Mar 2012

He screwed up a concerned look and spent a good half an hour showing pictures that showed Trayvon as a more scary-looking black man rather than a kid in a baseball uniform.

The show was almost entirely substance-less and Cooper repeatedly asked if public opinion might change now that the kitten has been shown to be a cat. Then he put on an inarticulate, angry and confused Black Panther in a paramilitary uniform and let the dude paint himself into a corner for awhile. It had all the markings of a propaganda operation. A not terribly subtle, but professional-looking operation designed to sway public opinion.

Just the usual bullshit. I only remember it because I almost never watch television news, and I was revolted to discover that it has sunk even lower than the state it was in when I stopped watching it.

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
10. No. I think the media is searching and pushing for info.
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 08:46 AM
Mar 2012

The media, in general, has no commitment to justice or propriety. They just need to keep viewers or readers engaged.

There have already been a decent amount of cases whether SYG applied. The NRA doesn't need a test case.
 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
15. Google "stand your ground" "not charged" then try to weed through it - see this piece from MSNBC...
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 09:55 AM
Mar 2012
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/jansing-and-co/46822640/#46822640

From the very crude transcript on the page:

"...93 cases of stand your ground in that state. more than 2/3 of those cases involved death. and the accused. close to 2/3 here were not charged or their cases were all together dropped. the bureau of justice says 75% of the time justifiable homicide involve citizens of the same race...."

belcffub

(595 posts)
12. again someone proposses that the NRA are the boggyman
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 09:26 AM
Mar 2012

no proof of anything... and a bunch of people saying... yup... must be so...

This is the NRA's (or anyone's) nightmare... legal initiatives they had in progress and were working on would be put on hold until after the public uproar dies off... scrutiny at every action they make... dammed if they make a statement... dammed if they don't... people going back over everything and NRA official has said looking for something to tie things together...

no I really doubt the NRA thought this was a perfect case... but don't let that stop you from sounding freeperish...

belcffub

(595 posts)
14. yes... I am a high paid NRA operative...
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 09:43 AM
Mar 2012

tighten that tin foil hat... helps if it is in the shape of a point...

yardwork

(61,599 posts)
17. I hate to say it, but this kind of cover-up goes on all the time. We're just watching this one.
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 10:03 AM
Mar 2012

This happens all the time, especially in the rural south. Black child murdered - no big deal. It happens ALL the time. We have no idea how many Trayvon Martins there are.

The only thing different in this case is that Trayvon's family hired attorneys who kept holding press conferences until the media finally noticed.

LAGC

(5,330 posts)
18. Helped that he was from a relatively affluent suburban neighborhood, too.
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 10:12 AM
Mar 2012

Poor kids die all the time in the city, and no one gives a damn.

This case hits closer to home for many people, those middle-class suburban viewers of the mainstream news.

Class is the new race.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
23. Actually I think the other explanations (racism etc) are better answers
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 10:30 AM
Mar 2012

Saying the "NRA" is like saying the CIA in the Middle East...favorite target, valid or not.

The NRA has put years into getting a fairly uniform SYG laws across the states. Why would they defend a bad shooting which would jeopardize that?

The NRA only profits when membership grows and stays. Has there been a membership jump since occurred?

Instead I think it is their worst nightmare.


Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
24. A bad call by the SA & Police Chief the night of the crime. Damage control afterward.
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 10:34 AM
Mar 2012

And an (initial???) campaign headed by a "True Believer" instead of a political professional?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002488695

toddwv

(2,830 posts)
25. Maybe some of it.
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 11:30 AM
Mar 2012

The majority, however, is being funded by pure, unadulterated hate and there are many willing volunteers.

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