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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsClippers Owner Donald Sterling to GF - DON'T BRING BLACK PEOPLE TO MY GAMES Including Magic Johnson
Another shithead Bundy.........They are falling out from the skies now..........................
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TMZ Sports has obtained audio of Sterling making the racist declaration during a heated argument on April 9th with V. Stiviano ... after she posted a photo on Instagram posing with Magic. Sterling rails on Stiviano -- who ironically is black and Mexican -- for putting herself out in public with a black person (she has since taken the pic down). But it doesn't end there. You have to listen to the audio to fully grasp the magnitude of Sterling's racist worldview. Among the comments:
-- "You can sleep with [black people]. You can bring them in, you can do whatever you want. The little I ask you is not to promote it on that ... and not to bring them to my games." (5:15)
-- "Im just saying, in your lousy f******* Instagrams, you dont have to have yourself with, walking with black people." (7:45)
-- "...Don't put him [Magic] on an Instagram for the world to have to see so they have to call me. And don't bring him to my games." (9:13)
Sterling has a documented history of allegedly racist behavior -- he's been sued twice by the federal government for allegedly refusing to rent apartments to Blacks and Latinos. He was also sued by former Clippers exec Elgin Baylor for racial discrimination -- though a jury was ultimately not convinced and shot down Baylor's case.
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http://www.tmz.com/2014/04/26/donald-sterling-clippers-owner-black-people-racist-audio-magic-johnson/
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DinahMoeHum
(21,934 posts)Donnie Tokowitz (his real name) has a long history of getting on with them.
http://books.google.com/books?id=DEgiTalvVXwC&pg=PA123&lpg=PA123&dq=dave+zirin+bad+sports+don+sterling&source=bl&ots=iV0r36Kk0X&sig=xfuEZE8A6QumHMaP-iTYecVc0KU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Ja9bU-rwI7HlsATNt4G4CQ&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=dave%20zirin%20bad%20sports%20don%20sterling&f=false
Another example of his racism, from 5 years ago:
http://www.edgeofsports.com/2009-11-10-470/
Anansi1171
(793 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)With the legalization of weed, that racist would besmirch the good "Tokowitz" name...!!!!
lunasun
(21,646 posts)DinahMoeHum
(21,934 posts). . .which, too many times, are no more than fancy names for a glorified paid sex partner.
By the way, here is an ad that Sterling was apparently fond of putting out (and used as a cover for chumming around for women to have sex with):
An article from 5 years ago (ESPN Magazine):
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4187729
And a sample from Dave Zirin's book Bad Sports: How Owners Are Ruining The Games We Love
http://books.google.com/books?id=DEgiTalvVXwC&pg=PA123&lpg=PA123&dq=dave+zirin+bad+sports+don+sterling&source=bl&ots=iV0r36Kk0X&sig=xfuEZE8A6QumHMaP-iTYecVc0KU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Ja9bU-rwI7HlsATNt4G4CQ&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=dave%20zirin%20bad%20sports%20don%20sterling&f=false
Bottom line is, this guy's a pervert.
What an idiot.
Segami
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Anansi1171
(793 posts)...and to know me is to know its the one sport I love. But the owners - Donald Sterlings middling bigotry are well known.
But the DeVos family owns the Orlando Magic and they are chillingly right wing.
Black players may not be able to say no to the million dollar paychecks - but fuck the league if they dont force sterling out.
Segami
(14,923 posts)..I don't know HOW his players can continue playing for this weasel.
Chisox08
(1,898 posts)Doc Rivers also should be looking for a new team once his contract ends.
dickthegrouch
(3,234 posts)Paying me handsomely for every insult uttered by a member of management or ownership.
I'm sure there are dozens of fines the team can levy on the players. It's time to start evening out the field.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(109,518 posts)Legally I'm not sure they can. Fine them yes and I'm sure in this case it'll be a record amount. They kept George Shinn as owner of the Hornets and he was sued for sexual assault.
jpak
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Botany
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12 out of 14 clipper players are African American
Segami
(14,923 posts)..this moron views his players as a stable full of top thoroughbred horses who generate PROFITS for him.....nothing more!
woolldog
(8,791 posts)From Elgin Baylor's lawsuit:
"During this same period, players Sam Cassell, Elton Brand and Corey Maggette complained to me that DONALD STERLING would bring women into the locker room after games, while the players were showering, and make comments such as, 'Look at those beautiful black bodies.' I brought this to Sterling's attention, but he continued to bring women into the locker room."
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)This is just bizarre. She is a combination of African-American and Mexican. And he is telling her to stay away from "the minorities". She tried several times to explain she is black, and he just stuck his fingers in his ears. "You really know how to hurt a guy."
This guy must be completely insane.
How does such a racist end up with a girlfriend who is TWO different minorities, and not seem to even know it? And he is worried about what HER Instgram pictures say about her? What must all of his racist buddies be saying about him?
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)I cannot imagine that will go over well with the NBA or LA. Isn't he also a scumbag slumlord? How the hell could anyone dislike Magic?
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)But she is lacking in character also for staying with someone who feels such hatred towards her and her family.
tapermaker
(244 posts)taped this conversation w/o his knowledge. Seems like she was looking to jam him up.
JesterCS
(1,828 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)I'm sure this fine young lady would be the girlfriend of Donald Sterling if Donald Sterling lived in a trailer park in Barstow, California and living on Social Security, right?
Must be a drag knowing that the ONLY reason people are around you is because you're rich, otherwise, you have no redeeming value that draws people to you naturally.
Paladin
(28,404 posts)Massa Sterling is perfectly happy for black people to make him millions with their efforts, he enjoys the sexual pleasures of a beautiful, young, mixed-race woman---but he wants to keep the mansion lily-white and for everyone to know their place. This must be the week for degenerate old racists to make the headlines.....
calimary
(82,027 posts)As long as everyone knows his/her place.
My husband now regularly refers to 'em as the republi-KLAN.
tooeyeten
(1,074 posts)Segami
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lunasun
(21,646 posts)yes This must be the week for degenerate old racists to make the headlines.....
winetourdriver
(196 posts)We certainly do have a SCOTUS problem, and I dont think POTUS is going to be able to do a damned thing about it.
Paladin
(28,404 posts)tooeyeten
(1,074 posts)That's from much lower, namely the ass.
a kennedy
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a kennedy
(30,169 posts)The question is, now, should this guy continue being an owner? Thats the question . Another other question is, will his team shut down on him? Will his team take these remarks personally and say you know what, we dont want to play for a guy like this.
First of all, they have to prove its his voice on the tape, but this is the first big test for Adam Silver. You cant have this guy making statements like that. He has to suspend him and fine him immediately . We can not have an NBA owner discriminating against a league thats were a black league.
panader0
(25,816 posts)I find Sterling's comments and racism despicable. But hey Charles, is it OK if some white people play in your league?
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)is predominantly Black, but worded it the wrong way.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)It goes on to say:
Accusations of racism and discrimination
In November 2005, ESPN reported that Donald Sterling agreed to pay a fine of $2.73 million to settle claims brought by the Justice Department and Davin Day of Newport Beach that he engaged in disciminatory rental practices against Hispanics, blacks, and families with children. [4]. In addition, Sterling was also ordered to pay attorneys' fees and costs in that action of $4,923,554.75. [Order Granting Motion for Prevailing Party's Attorneys' Fees and Costs, dated November 2, 2005, C.D. Cal. Case No. 2:03-cv-00859-DSF-E Dkt No. 454]. In granting the attorney's fees and costs Judge Dale S. Fischer noted "Sterling's' scorched earth' litigation tactics, some of which are described by the Plaintiffs' counsel and some of which were observed by the Court. The Court has no difficulty accepting Plaintiffs' counsel's representations that the time required to be spent on this case was increased by defendant's counsel's often unacceptable, and sometimes outrageous conduct." [Id. at p. 5]
In February 2009, Sterling was sued by former longtime Clippers executive Elgin Baylor for employment discrimination on the basis of age and race.[5] The lawsuit alleges Sterling told Baylor that he wanted to fill his team with "poor black boys from the South and a white head coach".[6] The suit alleges that during negotiations for Danny Manning, Sterling said "I'm offering a lot of money for a poor black kid."[6][7] The suit noted those comments while alleging "the Caucasian head coach was given a four-year, $22-million contract", but Baylor's salary had "been frozen at a comparatively paltry $350,000 since 2003".[5]
On August 8, 2009, the U.S. Department of Justice sued Sterling for housing discrimination in using race as a factor in filling some of his apartment buildings. The government's ongoing case alleges Sterling refused to rent to non-Koreans in the Koreatown neighborhood and to African Americans in Beverly Hills.[6] The suit alleges Sterling once said he did not like to rent to Hispanics because they "smoke, drink and just hang around the building," and that "Black tenants smell and attract vermin."[6]
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Moses2SandyKoufax
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Iggo
(47,726 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)I'm happy the article mentions that he is holds lots of rental units, he is a diverse racist and bigot of the first order. Discrimination is his business model.
world wide wally
(21,762 posts)Being a total asshole must pay well.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)1) An NBA owner who hates black people Should have bought a hockey team
2) Ranting to his black GF about black people
3) Did he just tell his GF she can sleep with other men?
lunasun
(21,646 posts)3 is an affirmative
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Ewww Bundy stink!
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Why do minorities work for him? He is ok with making money from the skills of the minorities that work for him but isnt comfortable to be seen with them in the stands. Can this be any more egregious?
Catherine Vincent
(34,495 posts)His gf takes pics with black people and posts the pics. So it seems the man's "friends" give him grief about it? That's fvcked up.
Why is she with that old guy anyway?
DinahMoeHum
(21,934 posts)jtuck004
(15,882 posts)"Boom goes the dynamite" indeed.
Without those players making it possible for him to sit there and spout that garbage, it wouldn't happen. The Republicans thought it worth shutting down the government when they saw wrong (crazy as they are). Maybe if their checks had been bigger, like NBA players, they wouldn't care about people who think they are simply animals.
That says a lot about them as well. Then again, we live in a country where the current administration is content to let criminals continue to run a business if it might cause others to have to create the jobs they would lose by calling them to justice, and thus enforces inequality on those with less income. (The attorney general even put that in writing, lol).
So they aren't doing anything we don't do as a country.
Imho, such obsequiousness overshadows any work they do as an athlete, since I don't care much about excuses.
Is there enough money for you to walk in tomorrow and told by the person giving you the check that you are less than human, that you shouldn't be seen around regular people? That you are good enough for a spectacle, like Lions and Christians, but when you leave use the back door.
How much is enough to own you? And be sure to teach the kids that when they grow up, money and doing what you are told is more important than freedom. And get on tv, so you can reinforce the message they are getting from school for millions.
Racists suck. Toady people that make the spread of hatred and tragedy possible suck almost as much.
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Poor, wretched, and stupid peoples, nations determined on your own misfortune and blind to your own good! You let yourselves be deprived before your own eyes of the best part of your revenues; your fields are plundered, your homes robbed, your family heirlooms taken away. You live in such a way that you cannot claim a single thing as your own; and it would seem that you consider yourselves lucky to be loaned your property, your families, and your very lives. All this havoc, this misfortune, this ruin, descends upon you not from alien foes, but from the one enemy whom you yourselves render as powerful as he is, for whom you go bravely to war, for whose greatness you do not refuse to offer your own bodies unto death. He who thus domineers over you has only two eyes, only two hands, only one body, no more than is possessed by the least man among the infinite numbers dwelling in your cities; he has indeed nothing more than the power that you confer upon him to destroy you. Where has he acquired enough eyes to spy upon you, if you do not provide them yourselves? How can he have so many arms to beat you with, if he does not borrow them from you? The feet that trample down your cities, where does he get them if they are not your own? How does he have any power over you except through you?
How would he dare assail you if he had no cooperation from you? What could he do to you if you yourselves did not connive with the thief who plunders you, if you were not accomplices of the murderer who kills you, if you were not traitors to yourselves? You sow your crops in order that he may ravage them, you install and furnish your homes to give him goods to pillage; you rear your daughters that he may gratify his lust; you bring up your children in order that he may confer upon them the greatest privilege he knows to be led into his battles, to be delivered to butchery, to be made the servants of his greed and the instruments of his vengeance; you yield your bodies unto hard labor in order that he may indulge in his delights and wallow in his filthy pleasures; you weaken yourselves in order to make him the stronger and the mightier to hold you in check. From all these indignities, such as the very beasts of the field would not endure, you can deliver yourselves if you try, not by taking action, but merely by willing to be free. Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed.
I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.
de la boetie
http://www.constitution.org/la_boetie/serv_vol.htm
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randome
(34,845 posts)...stand around at center court and lose the game until their asshole of an owner takes the hint and gets out of town.
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jtuck004
(15,882 posts)'till he stands center court and explains to his RepubliBundy friends WHY they are all screwed up, what has changed in the past hundred years, and why people like him haven't.
But people aren't used to freedom any longer, and perhaps it's too hard to see how they are just on a big plantation, along with too many of us. So the most likely will be a little dust up, and then on with business, instead of something that really shakes us to the core (lol - shaken to the core by basketball). And the people he owns will get their little rewards.
Anyway, I don't expect him to apologize. It won't be genuine if he does, just business. Virtually none of these people will ever change, and too many that might disrupt it quit and say they are gonna change it from the inside or some such BS.
As long as enough accept that it's ok to let them use their power to get what they want, (which is what they do when we don't cooperate and win it away from them and hold it), they will continue to screw with everyone else.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(109,518 posts)But to make that kind of racist comment when he's involved in a sport dominated by black guys? Let's see him walk this one back.
I'm sure there's going to be some sort of fine forthcoming from the NBA. I imagine it'll be a record amount.
alp227
(32,199 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(109,518 posts)Just found this picture on twitter
Segami
(14,923 posts)Priceless!...........who would have ever thought?.....
Initech
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(109,518 posts)Comments section of the below linked article
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/nba-investigating-disturbing-and-offensive-remarks-allegedly-made-by-clippers-sterling-042614
lunasun
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I also like how many turn on the GF in the comment section> who is she? / It may be a stereotype, but this tape is yet another example of why you never argue with a Latina. She will make you pay./ Hpttie -Too bad she can not be trusted./She did seem like she was trying to get him to admit to being a racist which he did not do...............
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shanti
(21,680 posts)He can bite me.
playthegame
(11 posts)CAN'T HAVE RACISTS CLOWNS LIKE THIS REPRESENTING US!!
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE HE'S BANNED FROM ANY CONVENTIONS!
Iggo
(47,726 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)AND jJosh Brolin was only playing an idealistic United States Senator on that TV show
it was not real life..........................
mucifer
(23,742 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Another racist asshole. The nation is full of them.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)did the NBA let this guy into the owner's box?
No, not all players and fans are afro-american, but the NBA has a lot of players, coaches and fans that would be targeted by this statement. If this person thinks he can have a racist attitude around a sport that has so many afro american fans, he might as well think 2+2=5.
spanone
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(11,660 posts)ecstatic
(32,932 posts)Bundy and Sterling are on the phone!
ETA: I've never heard such a politically correct racist before. lol
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)Roeser said the remarks on the recording do not reflect Sterling's opinions on race and that the woman identified as Stiviano is involved in a legal dispute with Sterling.
The woman "is the defendant in a lawsuit brought by the Sterling family alleging that she embezzled more than $1.8 million, who told Mr. Sterling that she would 'get even,'" Roeser's statement said.
"Mr. Sterling is emphatic that what is reflected on that recording is not consistent with, nor does it reflect his views, beliefs or feelings," the statement added, noting the team was unsure whether the recording "has been altered."
"He feels terrible that such sentiments are being attributed to him and apologizes to anyone who might have been hurt by them," it said, adding Sterling's apologies "for sentiments attributed to him about Earvin (Magic) Johnson.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/alleged-racist-remarks-clippers-owner-sterling-ignite-uproar-233456736--nba.html;_ylt=A0LEVz6sUFxThFMANh9XNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTB0Yjkwb3VoBHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA1ZJUDM3MF8x
randome
(34,845 posts)A simple 'Yes' or 'No' would have cleared matters up quickly.
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Cha
(299,376 posts)thanks Segami