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okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 03:25 PM Apr 2014

How Obama Shocked Harper as Keystone's Frustrator-in-Chief

On Thursday, Nov. 10, 2011, Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper, seated in his Ottawa office across from Parliament Hill, took an urgent call from U.S. President Barack Obama. Harper’s advisers were listening intently around a muted speakerphone in an adjoining room.

The State Department, Obama said, would be making an announcement later that day putting the Keystone XL pipeline project on hold. There was no choice, according to the president. Nebraska wanted the route changed to protect a key aquifer under millions of acres of prime farmland. This would necessitate a new environmental assessment. He assured Harper the call wasn’t a game changer; neither a yes nor a no, just a delay.

Harper was far from assured -- he was irritated. The project had already undergone three years of study and was, so the Canadians believed, on the cusp of approval. Delay, he told Obama, served no one’s interest.

By the time Harper hung up, according to people with knowledge of the episode, he had sized up the potential economic calamity for Canada and its oil ambitions. Western Canada’s land-locked Alberta oil sands hold roughly 168 billion recoverable barrels of heavy crude known as bitumen. America gobbles up almost all of Canada’s oil exports. An energy research group in Calgary had run the math: If Keystone died, it could cost Canada C$632 billion ($573 billion) in foregone growth over 25 years -- 94 percent of it from the economy of Alberta, the province Harper calls home.

So here was Obama, in Harper’s view, jeopardizing Canada’s welfare by throwing a sop to his anti-Keystone environmental supporters. He had blinked and might well blink again. A year or two could be three or four. Or never. That the U.S. couldn’t be counted on to take Canada’s oil came as a shocking epiphany, said a former senior government adviser with knowledge of the call who asked not to be identified because the person isn’t authorized to speak publicly.

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-24/how-obama-shocked-harper-as-keystone-frustrator-in-chief.html

This story gives interesting insight into the Canadian/American political and economic relationship and Keystone's effect on it. Keystone might also represent a missed opportunity. Since denying the Keystone pipeline won't stop the tar sands oil (bitumen) from being developed, indeed moving it by rail will increase emissions, perhaps we should press Canada to offset some of the damage in other ways. Canada has been on the receiving end of criticism for it's "dirty oil" business and environmental practices. Would a better solution not be to cooperate on an environmental plan that allows for Keystone, but in such a way that creates a positive environmental impact through changes in their environmental laws.

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How Obama Shocked Harper as Keystone's Frustrator-in-Chief (Original Post) okaawhatever Apr 2014 OP
Why does that SOB (Harper) think he has a right to pollute our country? BlueStreak Apr 2014 #1
Trade agreements. That is my guess. jwirr Apr 2014 #2
Moving the Alberta tar sands by rail is an economic killer Larkspur Apr 2014 #3
If, as claimed, most of the tar sands oil is for US consumption.... HooptieWagon Apr 2014 #4
I don't think anybody is making that claim BlueStreak Apr 2014 #5
OP says most Canadian oil is for Us consumption. HooptieWagon Apr 2014 #6
thanks okaa Cha Apr 2014 #7
 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
1. Why does that SOB (Harper) think he has a right to pollute our country?
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 03:39 PM
Apr 2014

Unless you work at one of the refineries in Louisiana (maybe 100 workers) Americans get absolutely nothing from this, other than the virtual certainty that at some point there will be a big spill that we have to absorb.

 

Larkspur

(12,804 posts)
3. Moving the Alberta tar sands by rail is an economic killer
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 04:28 PM
Apr 2014

that's why Harper and TransCanada want the Keystone XL pipleline built.

If the pipeline gets rejected, the Alberta tar sands project is pretty much still born. That's why environmentalists have put lots of pressure on getting this pipeline rejected.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
4. If, as claimed, most of the tar sands oil is for US consumption....
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 05:43 PM
Apr 2014

Why is it necessary to transport to US refineries? Can't Canada simply build their own refinery and sell us the final product?
Unless, of course, the tar sands oil isn't intended for US market. Lets say China, who don't care about environmental impact of using crap fuel, is the end consumer. Pretty easy to ship there from the newly widened Panama Canal, or the soon to be constructed Nicaragua Canal.... provided the crude could be loaded on ships at a US Gulfcoast port.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
5. I don't think anybody is making that claim
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 07:46 PM
Apr 2014

Everything I have heard is that the point of the pipeline is to get the stuff to Louisiana where it can be shipped overseas.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
6. OP says most Canadian oil is for Us consumption.
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 07:48 PM
Apr 2014

I don't buy that for a second that the Alberta bitumin is intended for US consumption.

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