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srican69

(1,426 posts)
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 04:02 PM Apr 2014

I have an idea that will nueter the scotus decision today

Pass a law that will that will provide public financing in equal measure to that raised through private contributions to anyone in a primary/main election - fund this through a very progressive sur-tax mechanism (mostly rich)

So effectively if Kock assholes decide to spend a billion dollars on election -- the rich will have to pony up more than than in additional taxes the following year.


I am sure it will work very well - but passing it is another matter.

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Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
3. Alas, the people who could do this won't because they're the ones getting the payoffs.
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 04:15 PM
Apr 2014

Politicians love to talk campaign finance reform but they still take corporate money and plead for more money from us.

It's all rather laughable.

randr

(12,412 posts)
4. What I would like to see
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 04:16 PM
Apr 2014

No money can be used for campaign that was raised outside of the district or state the candidate is running for.
Or better. A nationwide commitment by Voters to not vote for AnyOne who accepts or is supported by large money donors outside of the district or state they are running for office in.

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
7. 201 c (4)'s do not have to divulge the identity of their donors
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 04:22 PM
Apr 2014

Hell the North Koreans could be financing our campaigns for all we know. No one has to sat where their money is coming from.

srican69

(1,426 posts)
9. doesnt matter . if any candidate gets a dime in private contributions .. and the rest just have a
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 04:29 PM
Apr 2014

penny .. public finance should make up the difference

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
13. Most of the problems are not direct donations to candidates
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 04:39 PM
Apr 2014

The problems are ad buys by groups that don't even mention candidates. They are usually issue oriented. I realize this was enhanced by "citizen's united" and not this current ruling, but public financing would not effect these donations at all. It would be virtually impossible to pass a public financing law with the current make up of Congress. The ONLY thing that can address the Extreme Court's rulings is to elect Democrats overwhelmingly to Congress. If Democrats controlled Congress some decent Laws might get passed to protect citizens from being over run by billionaires. Push for "Vote By Mail" and watch how Democratic turn-out improves. Turn-out is the KEY and unless we make it as easy as possible, many people just won't bother.

srican69

(1,426 posts)
14. there were no limits on that even before today's decision
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 04:41 PM
Apr 2014

I dont think there is a strong legal basis to get that to stop or a work around like I proposed

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
10. Publicly funded elections with tax dollars
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 04:30 PM
Apr 2014

and no private contributions is better. That idea us been around for a long while.

srican69

(1,426 posts)
11. I am all for that .. but if money is free speech ( What a fucking joke !!) then
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 04:35 PM
Apr 2014

you will have to allow private money .. but we as a country should prevent it from drowning other voices.. Democracy should be a war of ideas .. not of campaign chests

unblock

(52,221 posts)
12. those with a stake in a corrupt system will fight to protect it.
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 04:38 PM
Apr 2014

unfortunately, this means virtually everyone in a position to actually change it.

your idea sounds great, but the moneyed interests would never go for it so they will spend whatever it takes to defeat it, and the politicians brought up in our current system will happily go along.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
16. From what I can see, our nation is already well on the road to self-destruction. It's
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 04:55 PM
Apr 2014

the super-rich and their paid politicians who don't -- and they are the ones who hold
the power to do so, or not. Oh, well.

Dr. Strange

(25,921 posts)
15. A question on specifics:
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 04:43 PM
Apr 2014

If one billion dollars is raised for the Republican candidate, does that mean every candidate also gets a billion dollars, or just that a billion gets dispersed among the other candidates.

The thought of Ralph Nader getting a billion dollars to run again troubles me a little. (Although I've been dreaming of seeing what Lee Mercer, Jr could do with more funding--NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL.)

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