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Happy Birthday John Steinbeck! (Original Post) Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 OP
Maybe there ain't no sin and there ain't no virtue, DefenseLawyer Feb 2014 #1
"It has always seemed strange to me... Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #2
That was a great day, 112 years ago. ananda Feb 2014 #3
It was. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #6
"Young wolves, show us your teeth." John Steinbeck Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2014 #4
If you're in trouble, or hurt or need - go to the poor people. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #5
There is a fantastic Google doodle today showing his novels. femmocrat Feb 2014 #7
I saw it and then made the mistake of clicking in here only to be greeted with Happy Birthday Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #10
A distant cousin of mine. hunter Feb 2014 #8
I think that would be so cool. My relatives are all murderers and thieves, albeit powerful Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #9
Tom Joad Himself. . . Stargleamer Feb 2014 #11
Reading what he wrote in the times that he wrote it, and then looking at what we have become now, Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #12
Many of his works still haunt me LostOne4Ever Feb 2014 #13
Where's that level today? Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #14
If I could only have one book, that book would be Morning Dew Feb 2014 #15
Can't argue with that. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #16
"Before I knowed it .... " etherealtruth Feb 2014 #17
 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
1. Maybe there ain't no sin and there ain't no virtue,
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 09:00 PM
Feb 2014

they's just what people does. Some things folks do is nice and some ain't so nice, and that's all any man's got a right to say.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
2. "It has always seemed strange to me...
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 09:08 PM
Feb 2014

the things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty, understanding and feeling, are the concomitants of failure in our system. And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness, egotism and self-interest, are the traits of success. And while men admire the quality of the first they love the produce of the second."

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
6. It was.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 09:50 PM
Feb 2014

Why we choose to elevate the worst scum on earth, while ignoring the truly great is the creating the mechanism of our demise.

Steinbeck, Guthrie, Seeger, Al Lewis, etc. all told us what was and what is. That we choose to ignore it and pretend that all is well, says so much more about us than we are ready to acknowledge.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
5. If you're in trouble, or hurt or need - go to the poor people.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 09:27 PM
Feb 2014

They're the only ones that'll help - the only ones.

What an amazing life and an pretty amazing man.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
10. I saw it and then made the mistake of clicking in here only to be greeted with Happy Birthday
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 11:28 PM
Feb 2014

Chelsea Clinton.


I don't know whether these people just don't know, or if they don't care.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
9. I think that would be so cool. My relatives are all murderers and thieves, albeit powerful
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 11:16 PM
Feb 2014

murders and thieves. I think being related to someone that significant would be great. Do you have any stories or anecdotes to share?

Stargleamer

(1,964 posts)
11. Tom Joad Himself. . .
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 11:32 PM
Feb 2014

"Then I'll be all around in the dark - I'll be ever'where—wherever you look. Wherever they's a fight so hungry people can eat, I'll be there. Wherever they's a cop beatin' up a guy, I'll be there... I'll be in the way guys yell when they're mad an'—I'll be in the way kids laugh when they're hungry and they know supper's ready. An' when our folk eat the stuff they raise an' live in the houses they build—why, I'll be there."

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
12. Reading what he wrote in the times that he wrote it, and then looking at what we have become now,
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 01:43 AM
Feb 2014

isn't depression justified?

We're beset by morons on all sides, some call us friends and others call us enemies, but none of them seem to have any concept of what is, or could be, beyond the confines of their narrow little rooms.

LostOne4Ever

(9,236 posts)
13. Many of his works still haunt me
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 02:07 AM
Feb 2014

From the death of Lenny in of Mice and Men, to Kino and Juana returning home at the end of the pearl.

Very powerful stories.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
14. Where's that level today?
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 03:10 AM
Feb 2014

Steinbeck had a way to speak to everyone. All I find today is focus-group tested dreck mashed into a vaguely vanilla flavored slop, served up on a tin plate.

I've found writers with great ideas for telling great stories, but the actual words on the page are inadequate, at best. Like reading a paper written by a talented 12 year old.

Is it the publishing houses? The fact that no one wants to pay editors anymore? What?

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
16. Can't argue with that.
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 03:53 AM
Feb 2014

That old "pick one book forever" decision has always proved impossible for me. My choice changes form day to day, and just one always remains a problem.

Thanks for the reply.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
17. "Before I knowed it .... "
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 05:04 AM
Feb 2014

" ... I was sayin' out loud, 'The hell with it! There ain't no sin and there ain't no virtue. There's just stuff people do. "

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