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Apple to US: buy our stuff, but go f yourself if you want tax revenue (Original Post) Dreamer Tatum Mar 2012 OP
True DJ13 Mar 2012 #1
Not anymore - Apple is officially on my shit list. Initech Mar 2012 #2
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Apple Corp = FredisDead Mar 2012 #3
what did you think the "i" stood for? warrior1 Mar 2012 #4
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Just don't claim the sale on your taxes. Maximize the profit. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #9
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Think this will make over 10 posts? nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #5
Apple is just like any other for-profit corporation. Of course they're not going to want to pay tax. Selatius Mar 2012 #8
The best solution izquierdista Mar 2012 #10
Do you hate GE too? nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #11
GE doesn't have a clique of hipster fanboy apologists. Odin2005 Mar 2012 #14
Amen..n/t seeviewonder Mar 2012 #15
No, they don't need them nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #17
Fuck Apple and all it's brainless consumerist fanboys. Odin2005 Mar 2012 #13
hey, paying 2x as much for the same thing is....cool lol nt msongs Mar 2012 #16
I happily pay twice the cost for something that is a joy to use, Nye Bevan Mar 2012 #20
Same here. Elwood P Dowd Mar 2012 #21
Lol, never crashes? Google much? wow, brainwashed fanboy! Logical Mar 2012 #22
A handheld calculator? Heywood J Mar 2012 #25
Are we still talking about Apple? SmellyFeet Mar 2012 #30
Stupid deluded fanboys...... Nye Bevan Mar 2012 #31
Typical of the corporate world. Dawson Leery Mar 2012 #18
What Apple is doing is perfectly legal. Nye Bevan Mar 2012 #19
+ brazillion nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #24
So if murder were legal by twisting the laws some the way the tax code is alferoutou Mar 2012 #27
"if murder were legal by twisting the laws some the way the tax code is" Nye Bevan Mar 2012 #28
of course you don't alferoutou Mar 2012 #29
"What (insert company name) is doing is perfectly legal" Dreamer Tatum Mar 2012 #32
I bought a Blackberry Playbook today provis99 Mar 2012 #23
So where are the Zune fanboys, the Blackberry fanboys and the Windows Phone 7 fanboys? Nye Bevan Mar 2012 #26

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Selatius

(20,441 posts)
8. Apple is just like any other for-profit corporation. Of course they're not going to want to pay tax.
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 08:15 PM
Mar 2012

This shouldn't be news to anybody. Most smartphones, including iPhones, are made in a country run by a dictatorship.

Maybe if trade policy weren't written by multi-national corporations to be passed by politicians into law, we wouldn't be in this predicament where we can't even manufacture consumer electronics anymore without relying on outside help to make them.

 

izquierdista

(11,689 posts)
10. The best solution
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 08:19 PM
Mar 2012

Any corporation that doesn't pay taxes --- case dismissed. If corporations don't pay for the upkeep of judges, courts, clerks, bailiffs, marshals, not even enough to pay for one juror on jury duty, then they should have no standing to sue. You want to enforce a contract? Sorry, case dismissed. You want to prosecute a patent infringement? Sorry, case dismissed. You want to collect a debt from someone? Sorry, case dismissed.

As the immigrant entrepreneur conveyed with his limited English, "No tickee, no washee".

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
11. Do you hate GE too?
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 08:20 PM
Mar 2012

What we need are systemic changes, not to single out single companies. For the record both are symptoms of what is wrong.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
17. No, they don't need them
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 09:10 PM
Mar 2012

They have something more powerful, which will make changing the laws in place that much harder...retired four star generals and admirals, as well as high corporate members of the MIC, as well as INVESTORS in good places.

By the way you want to see bad blood with hipsters? Go waddle into the ps3 Xbox war. It makes this one look mild.

But if you are serious about dealing with the system, go ahead, DO NOT buy any apple products, that will bring the change you want. We both know their whole business plan hinges on a few hundred people complaining about Apple, and missing the full picture, on Democratic Underground.

I'd rather look at the full picture and realize that the difference will come in the form of legislation.

But if it makes you feel better, by all means, carry on. You and a few others not buying their products will be replaced by hundreds of thousands world wide.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
20. I happily pay twice the cost for something that is a joy to use,
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 10:59 PM
Mar 2012

superbly designed, and never crashes.

Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
21. Same here.
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 11:21 PM
Mar 2012

Since I switched to Apple in the late 1990s, I have never had a complaint about any of their products or their operating systems. Customer service has been first rate, and the resale value on the older stuff when I upgraded was higher than the industry average. Apple actually saved me money in the long term.

As for their overseas profits, Apple has already paid taxes in each country where they made the profits. Hundreds of other US corporations are doing the exact same thing, but only on DU is Apple the only one singled out for it. You never see a republican company such as Dell singled out. They use some of their profits to contribute to repuke politicians, but all the Dell fanboys here never mention it.

 

SmellyFeet

(162 posts)
30. Are we still talking about Apple?
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 08:42 AM
Mar 2012

Step slowly away from the Kool-Aid. It's killing your pocket book.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
18. Typical of the corporate world.
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 09:33 PM
Mar 2012

Apple has a powerful propaganda.........."marketing" machine.
Paying twice as much for the same product made in a third world sweatshop = "socially conscious". "eyes"

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
19. What Apple is doing is perfectly legal.
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 10:58 PM
Mar 2012

And any corporation would do the same thing. Don't complain about Apple, complain about the laws that allow them to do this legally.

 

alferoutou

(25 posts)
27. So if murder were legal by twisting the laws some the way the tax code is
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 08:22 AM
Mar 2012

you would be a-ok with it too?

What Apple is doing is legal but for lack of a better word, shitty.

You want to support a company like apple, go right ahead, it says alot about you as a person.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
28. "if murder were legal by twisting the laws some the way the tax code is"
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 08:32 AM
Mar 2012

Sorry, I have no idea what that means.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
32. "What (insert company name) is doing is perfectly legal"
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 11:11 AM
Mar 2012

Um, yeah...try that with

HALLIBURTON
WALMART
MCDONALDS
MONSANTO

and let's see the replies.





 

provis99

(13,062 posts)
23. I bought a Blackberry Playbook today
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 01:15 AM
Mar 2012

the Apple Ipod in the next display over cost three times as much, and does 1\3 of what the Playbook does.

Apple is supported by fanboys, not the quality of their product.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
26. So where are the Zune fanboys, the Blackberry fanboys and the Windows Phone 7 fanboys?
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 08:14 AM
Mar 2012

Does the existence of Apple fanboys prove that mass delusion or hallucination has been taking place? Apple has discovered the secret of making millions of people pay hundreds of dollars for products that do a third of what the competition's products do? Some kind of large-scale hypnosis, perhaps?

Or could it be that Apple's products are beautifully designed and a sheer joy to use? Having owned a Windows phone for 3 years and then switched to an iPhone when it started working with Verizon, I would go with the latter explanation.

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