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applegrove

(118,641 posts)
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:37 PM Jan 2014

"5 Kinds Of Brilliance You Didn't Know You Could Have"

5 Kinds Of Brilliance You Didn't Know You Could Have

http://www.businessinsider.com/why-youre-brilliant-and-probably-dont-even-know-it-2014-1

"SNIP...............................


2. High sensitivity and perceptivity

You process sensory data much more deeply and thoroughly than other people. You pick up on subtleties, like intonation, facial expressions and minor contradictions. You’re highly empathic and intuitive, and you notice things most people never would.

The flipside is that you’re often seen as too emotional, too nice or introverted, and your skills can be overlooked without a good level of self-awareness and self-advocacy.

3. Insatiable curiosity

You need to know all the things. You have a thirst for knowledge, and when you’re into something, you’ll stop at nothing to understand all there is to know about the topic. You voraciously blaze through books, and your interests may change from month to month.

While your insatiable curiosity can be fun, it can also mean you have an unquenchable need for stimulation. This can feel like unfulfillment when you’re at a job that doesn’t quench your thirst.



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"5 Kinds Of Brilliance You Didn't Know You Could Have" (Original Post) applegrove Jan 2014 OP
This is somewhat useful flamingdem Jan 2014 #1
I don't have a lot of friends, however, CrispyQ Jan 2014 #2
Mahalo, apple.. bookmarking in search Cha Jan 2014 #3
Finally, my brilliance Control-Z Jan 2014 #4
I'm a 2 and 3. TheMathieu Jan 2014 #5
From "Business Insider"??? Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #6
just learned a new word - Entelechy liberalla Jan 2014 #7
I'd like to see a Venn diagram about "3. Insatiable curiosity", Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #8
Dabrowski's Overexcitabilities are a more complex version of this. wildeyed Jan 2014 #9
Yeah, I hit on all five. bemildred Jan 2014 #10
He is at an alternative school right now. wildeyed Jan 2014 #11
Yes. I'm 68. It's been a struggle all of my life, and I'd never give it up. bemildred Jan 2014 #12
His sister is in a full day gifted program. wildeyed Feb 2014 #19
I quite believe PTSD from school. bemildred Feb 2014 #20
This is an interesting essay about school refusal. wildeyed Feb 2014 #23
Yeah, that's always pissed me off. That it's allowed, treated as normal. bemildred Feb 2014 #24
Another suggestion notemason Jan 2014 #14
+1. nt bemildred Jan 2014 #15
He has opportunity for art and sport. wildeyed Feb 2014 #18
Art is A+ notemason Feb 2014 #22
I think #2 may apply to many who JNelson6563 Jan 2014 #13
Yes notemason Jan 2014 #16
It's a trait common ohheckyeah Jan 2014 #17
Can notemason Feb 2014 #21
Being born a highly sensitive introvert has nothing to do with abuse. applegrove Feb 2014 #26
Meaningless feelgood waffle, I'm afraid. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #25
These things are abilities....and the person who has such abilities could very well be applegrove Feb 2014 #27
No, they're attitudes, not abilities. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #28

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
1. This is somewhat useful
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:53 PM
Jan 2014

There are many people with brilliant attributes, if they're lucky someone will notice it because they may not have the perspective to see it.

CrispyQ

(36,461 posts)
2. I don't have a lot of friends, however,
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:26 AM
Jan 2014

most of my few friends are 1's. (my assessment, not their's)

I have one friend who is a solid 4.


liberalla

(9,243 posts)
7. just learned a new word - Entelechy
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 08:08 AM
Jan 2014

Even spell check didn't recognize it -

Interesting article and application of these traits in a career/business sense.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
9. Dabrowski's Overexcitabilities are a more complex version of this.
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 09:28 AM
Jan 2014
http://www.sengifted.org/archives/articles/overexcitability-and-the-gifted

I have a kid who has almost all of them who was diagnosed as ADD, but who is really just intensely curious and has a lot of physical energy. As long as he is getting the opportunity to learn and move, he seems to do well in school. Really well. But if you try to make him sit at a desk and do work sheets full of material he has already mastered, it is going to be ugly. I like this theory, because it helped explain his intensity and didn't pathologizes it. Unlike a simple IQ score, Dabrowski's Theory of Positive Disintegration also counts spiritual and emotional development as part of the equation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Disintegration

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
10. Yeah, I hit on all five.
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 10:14 AM
Jan 2014

They all sound right. The problem I have with the OP is I don't want to be a leader or a success. I don't share their values. I could care less. I've done that, been a boss, it wasted my time, but they kept wanting to promote me, so I'd quit.

Don't let them mess with that kid, they have no idea what he needs.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
11. He is at an alternative school right now.
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 11:17 AM
Jan 2014

He is given more opportunity for experiential learning and they have been willing to accelerate his academics. He is aging out at the end of the year, so pretty worried about middle school. Oh well, jump off that bridge when we get to it.....

Many gifted people have serious issues with school and with authority in general. It is not a smooth ride to the big time like most people think. I am trying to teach my son to deal with his intensities in a positive manner. His curiosity is a huge, driving force in his life, but it is also very messy and he can be extremely difficult when he is hyper focused on a particular activity that he is trying to master. Not always fun or convenient for teachers or parents to deal with. So far I have had good luck getting the teachers to understand his drive, but many kids like him end up extremely bored and in trouble much of the time.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
12. Yes. I'm 68. It's been a struggle all of my life, and I'd never give it up.
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 11:50 AM
Jan 2014

I was left alone in the back to read so I would not be disruptive and answer all the questions. That was fine. For socialization, he needs to play with other kids, preferably including some kids with similar issues, and some who are more "normal". And sports, yeah. For studies, they would do well to let him run the show (mostly), or to put him with someone who can feed his interests and make him work.

I'm not offering any more advice, you sound like you have your head on straight. I just want to encourage you to feel free about not listening to expert advice, and about listening to your kid, and about protecting him from the well-meaning.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
19. His sister is in a full day gifted program.
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 05:02 PM
Feb 2014

He gets along better with those kids than the ones in his homogeneously grouped program, even though they are two years older, I guess because of the shared interested. But the homogeneous grouping has given him confidence that I don't think he would have developed with the more rigorous academic program. He didn't read until quite late, so it didn't seem a good fit for him early on. Oh well he is all caught up now. The teacher for the last few years was good about challenging him. This year, not so much. But it is the last year in the school, so not really pushing too hard. We just play it one year at a time. I am willing to transfer or home school for a bit if it gets too painful for him. I have mild PTSD from my school experience (really), so I am not anxious for him to repeat my experiences.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
20. I quite believe PTSD from school.
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 06:15 PM
Feb 2014

People are cruel. It took me a long time to put it to rest, high school. I still prefer not to have to think about it, and I actually did pretty well, 3.1 avg I think it was, sports success, etc. But I was not prepared for the sheer pointless cruelty, the messing with people for the fun of it, the dumping on people to puff yourself up. I call it "Monkey Politics" now. And you have to watch yourself too. You can get just as enraged at some slight from some Bozo whose opinion you do not in fact give a rip about.

They skipped me from 4th to 6th grade, to challenge me, which was a disaster on all fronts. And then moved me back a 1/2 grade, just to make sure of it. I don't really know what would have happened if they had left me alone, I was an A student and doing OK socially with my same age cohort. But they gave me an IQ test and freaked out.

I still don't see why an assessment that says you are doing really well means you should be moved somewhere else?

Just never let anybody tell him he is not exactly what he ought to be. Let him decide that. He's the only one who knows about some things. He has to figure it out.

Enjoy the ride, it can be bumpy. I know I drove my parents nuts.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
23. This is an interesting essay about school refusal.
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 10:08 PM
Feb 2014

I never fully refused, but my hair did fall out fro anxiety and stress, so I can relate. It was not so much being bullied. I just hated it, and for many of the reasons she mentions.

http://www.theguardian.com/education/2012/jan/13/jenn-ashworth-refusing-to-go-to-school

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
24. Yeah, that's always pissed me off. That it's allowed, treated as normal.
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 08:19 AM
Feb 2014

And the "blame the victim" aspect of how that is handled too. It pisses me off so much I don't talk about it. But I made an exception for your kid.

Some kids develop slowly or differently. Unevenly. At some point we need to wise up and recognize that for the opportunity it is, and develop it. Variety is good, difference is good, nature hates monocultures, and she loves new things that work.

My youngest had a lot of issues, damn near wore me out (my parents revenge!) and I still don't know how he is going to work out, but he seems to have found his feet and I'm pretty sure he can do what he likes, if he can figure out what that is.

notemason

(299 posts)
14. Another suggestion
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:40 PM
Jan 2014

If I might add to that, give him a musical instrument. Takes a lifetime to master; I know, just getting there, but can't get past the perfectionist yet to make a recording and get gigs. All five, asperger, eidetic memory, so it's been a strange life but I managed to raise two children alone and just finished caring for my elderly mother until her passing. But I had to get away from “help” who had me so medicated I couldn't function. Staying physically and active and mastering the guitar has worked for me and led to a fulfilling life so far.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
18. He has opportunity for art and sport.
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 04:56 PM
Feb 2014

I think it is important for people with a lot of intensity to have healthy outlets. The arts and physical activities are things that have helped me. Sadly, I was so stressed and confused about my own intensities as a teen and young adult that I opted to self medicate in unhealthy ways. I am hoping he picks a better road.

notemason

(299 posts)
22. Art is A+
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 07:11 PM
Feb 2014

Creative outlets are very important. As for physical activity I can pick up a shovel and dig for hours. Small organic farm keeps me fit and healthy.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
13. I think #2 may apply to many who
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:20 PM
Jan 2014

grew up in abusive households. My mom was on the crazy side of things and for the sake of survival we (my brothers and I) were all pretty keenly aware of our surroundings and the atmosphere ALL THE TIME. We still are.

I have the other attributes as well. #3 for me, the insatiable curiosity, tends to go in cycles of years~~on the big subjects anyway. The one constant so far has been history. Probably cause it's pretty endless to study and I like to learn pretty thoroughly.

And having to have everything perfect does present some challenges.

Julie--the imperfect

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
17. It's a trait common
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 07:09 PM
Jan 2014

to children of alcoholics whether there was other abuse or not. You never knew if you were going to get the happy drunk, sad drunk, or mad drunk so it was imperative to read the atmosphere.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
25. Meaningless feelgood waffle, I'm afraid.
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 09:26 AM
Feb 2014

Being curious or perfectionist doesn't mean you're brilliant.

Just another reason to mock "life coaches".

applegrove

(118,641 posts)
27. These things are abilities....and the person who has such abilities could very well be
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 11:14 PM
Feb 2014

brilliant at it compared to the rest of the population. No reason why not.

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