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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 03:43 PM Jan 2014

So... What Do You Think The Plan Will Be... Utopia, or Crematorium ???

Governments warned: Robots may take half our jobs in 20 years, so prepare for revolution
By Travis Gettys - RawStory
Friday, January 17, 2014 10:44 EST

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Nearly half of today’s jobs could be automated within the next two decades, according to one recent study, and no one seems to be prepared for what that will mean for society.

Study (.pdf file): http://www.oxfordmartin.ox.ac.uk/downloads/academic/The_Future_of_Employment.pdf

The digital revolution, just as the industrial revolution before it, is increasing productivity but also transforming the workforce – putting workers out of some jobs and into others. That’s not necessarily a bad thing, as many of the newly created jobs are higher-paying or less physically demanding, but rapidly changing economies dislocates many workers and transforms societies in unpredictable ways.

The technological “tornado” will hit the rich world first, reported The Economist, but will eventually sweep through poorer countries, reshaping politics and social organizations.

The Economist Article: http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21594298-effect-todays-technology-tomorrows-jobs-will-be-immenseand-no-country-ready

Oxford University researchers predicted that 47 percent of U.S. jobs are “at risk” for being automated in the next 20 years – especially in transportation, logistics, office and administrative support work.

The researchers also expressed surprise that service occupations, where most recent U.S. job growth has occurred, are “highly susceptible” to computerization.

For example...

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More: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/17/governments-warned-robots-may-take-half-our-jobs-in-20-years-so-prepare-for-revolution/


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So... What Do You Think The Plan Will Be... Utopia, or Crematorium ??? (Original Post) WillyT Jan 2014 OP
Vonnegut wrote about exactly this in "Player Piano," in the late 50's villager Jan 2014 #1
Yep... And It's Not Like We Have 20 Years... WillyT Jan 2014 #2
Something our species clearly excels at, eh? villager Jan 2014 #3
And drugs. El_Johns Jan 2014 #5
Hmmmm, not that I am agaist it but could this be why MJ is being legalized, or at least kelly1mm Jan 2014 #6
How do games of Musical Chairs usually end? Orsino Jan 2014 #4
I think society will experience a fundamental breakdown before then Armstead Jan 2014 #7
I'm Right There With Ya... WillyT Jan 2014 #8
This was the 'promise of the future' when I was a kid Matariki Jan 2014 #9
+1 woo me with science Jan 2014 #10
! edhopper Jan 2014 #11
Well... There's That... WillyT Jan 2014 #12
Kick !!! WillyT Jan 2014 #13
This Is One Of Those Threads/Subjects That People Just Don't Want To Consider, Right ??? WillyT Jan 2014 #14
I stand with Emma on this one. Joe Shlabotnik Jan 2014 #26
The birth rate is falling pretty fast. It has halved in 50 years. If that continues, this Squinch Jan 2014 #15
I Hear Ya... But I Don't Think That's Gonna Do It... WillyT Jan 2014 #16
There is that. And don't forget raising the retirement age. So far-sighted, aren't they? Squinch Jan 2014 #18
Are you thinking globally here? WinkyDink Jan 2014 #17
The near 50% drop rate is for the US, but birth rates are falling globally. Squinch Jan 2014 #19
Kick !!! WillyT Jan 2014 #20
And Another... WillyT Jan 2014 #21
Last Kick From Me... WillyT Jan 2014 #22
Pushing my kids into engineering. dilby Jan 2014 #23
Just think, you get to keep everything that you kill. Rex Jan 2014 #24
To answer the title question.....probably neither. nt AverageJoe90 Jan 2014 #25
extremely interesting heaven05 Feb 2014 #27
You Are Quite Welcome !!! WillyT Feb 2014 #28
 

villager

(26,001 posts)
1. Vonnegut wrote about exactly this in "Player Piano," in the late 50's
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 03:53 PM
Jan 2014

For the "excess" humans that were around -- and that was most everybody -- the corporacracy's answer was to have everyone herded into ghetto like living areas, with a lot of cheap liquor made available...

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
2. Yep... And It's Not Like We Have 20 Years...
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 04:14 PM
Jan 2014

This has been, is, and will be happening more and more over the next 20 years.

We need to start making some pretty important decisions NOW.




 

villager

(26,001 posts)
3. Something our species clearly excels at, eh?
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 04:22 PM
Jan 2014



Okay, I'll try not to be too cynical on this pleasantly sunny, drought-y, wildfire-y California weekend...!

kelly1mm

(4,732 posts)
6. Hmmmm, not that I am agaist it but could this be why MJ is being legalized, or at least
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 04:33 PM
Jan 2014

part of the reason? Keep the sheep mellowed out?

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
4. How do games of Musical Chairs usually end?
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 04:31 PM
Jan 2014

Imagine all the food, water and shelter in the last chair.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
7. I think society will experience a fundamental breakdown before then
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 04:41 PM
Jan 2014

It could be a good breakdown in which we finally realize that we have to fundamentally re-think and readjust our roles in society and the role of commerce and money. Like seeing that people have broader roles, and that the spare time that such a trend would create can be put to constructive and/or enjoyable pursuits in a system that allows for broader coverage of basic needs and ewiser use of resources.

That's the optimistic take.

The pessimistic take is that we continue with business as usual, and we revert into a number of dystopian and possibly apocalyptic scenarios that I don't even want to think about.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
9. This was the 'promise of the future' when I was a kid
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 05:07 PM
Jan 2014

and I always thought that instead of working to 'create more jobs' - a favorite of Democrats - we should be working to more fairly distribute wealth. Since the technology to achieve leisure seems inevitable.

Meaning:
- working to create shorter work weeks and guaranteed paid vacation time
- higher taxes on corporations and the very wealthy
- higher social security payments
- social safety nets or even a guaranteed income for every citizen
- universal health care
- (truly) affordable higher education

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
14. This Is One Of Those Threads/Subjects That People Just Don't Want To Consider, Right ???
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 10:47 PM
Jan 2014

Sorry.

Still wondering what's gonna happen when unemployment reaches 50%.


Squinch

(50,886 posts)
15. The birth rate is falling pretty fast. It has halved in 50 years. If that continues, this
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 11:18 PM
Jan 2014

might be less of a problem than we think it will be.


 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
16. I Hear Ya... But I Don't Think That's Gonna Do It...
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 11:37 PM
Jan 2014

Especially when right-wingers are insisting on ending abortions, and at the same time callig for a seven day work week.


dilby

(2,273 posts)
23. Pushing my kids into engineering.
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 01:01 AM
Jan 2014

Figure if they can't compete with a robot they can at least be the person who designs them.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
27. extremely interesting
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 11:45 AM
Feb 2014

and disturbing. Societal well being, for the 99%er's, is, as today, at risk. The 1%er's give less than a damn about the people fighting over the crumbs left by them to keep us divided against each other and not concentrating on the inequity of world wide greed capitalism benefiting only the few. The future does not look good. Thanks for the links.

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