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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:15 PM Jan 2014

Brian Schweitzer Can't Really Think Of Anything Nice To Say About Obama's Record

Brian Schweitzer Can't Really Think Of Anything Nice To Say About Obama's Record

Brian Schweitzer has given every indication lately that he's not exactly a President Obama fan.

The former Montana governor called the President a "corporatist" last month. Then he told Dave Weigel that the Obama administration is "just not good at getting things done."

But for those who are still unsure about his assessment of Obama, here's MSNBC's Benjy Sarlin's profile of Schweitzer.

Does Obama have one positive achievement under his belt, Sarlin asked.

“My mother, God rest her soul, told me ‘Brian, if you can’t think of something nice to say about something change the subject,’” Schweitzer said after a long pause, before slamming Obama's record on civil liberties and the Affordable Care Act.

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/brian-schweitzer-obama


He was pro-Obama in 2012

Brian Schweitzer's Speech: Full Text from the Democratic National Convention

When President Obama took office, the economy was in free fall, losing more than 800,000 jobs a month. Since then, he's helped create 4.5 million private sector jobs, 29 straight months of job growth.

Stock market has doubled. Energy production is up. Imports from foreign countries are down. The number of rigs drilling for oil in the United States has more than quadrupled. Manufacturing jobs are coming back, not just because we're producing a record amount of natural gas that's lowering electricity prices, but because we have the best-trained, hardest-working labor force in the history of the world.

We are demanding more from our schools, but we're backing up that demand by investing more in teachers, increasing financial aid and doubling funding for Pell Grants. While he was doing all that, President Obama cut our taxes. He cut taxes 18 times for small businesses. He cut taxes by $3,600 for the typical middle-class family. Now that dog does hunt.

Governor Romney said that finding Osama bin Laden was "not worth moving heaven and earth." Tonight, bin Laden isn't on earth, and he sure isn't in heaven. Thanks to the courage of American Special Forces and the bold leadership of our president, Osama bin Laden is at the bottom of the ocean.

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http://news.yahoo.com/brian-schweitzers-speech-full-text-democratic-national-convention-202629764--politics.html

Still, let's consider...

Running against Obamacare is stupid
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024334348#post66

But the anti-Obama (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/dem-thinks-he-can-win-the-anti-obama)?

Montana's Democratic governor slams ‘jackasses’ in DC for Keystone delay

By Ben Geman

Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer (D) is expressing frustration with the debate in Washington over the Keystone XL pipeline, which he strongly supports.

“Ninety per cent of these jackasses that are complaining about the Keystone pipeline in Washington, D.C., one year ago wouldn't have even known where the Keystone was. While we were doing the heavy lifting here in Montana and in South Dakota and in Kansas and Oklahoma ... in Washington, D.C. ... all these great defenders had never heard of Keystone before,” Schweitzer said in an interview published Thursday.

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http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/212439-montana-gov-slams-anti-keystone-jackasses-in-dc


MT: Schweitzer leads fight against new federal fracking red tape
http://watchdog.org/24671/mt-schweitzer-leads-fight-against-new-federal-fracking-red-tape/

Brian Schweitzer, Would-Be Liberal Hero, is an NRA Darling
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/116138/brian-schweitzer-2016-populist-hopeful-nra-darling

Montana's "Coal Cowboy" Gov. Schweitzer on huge new mine "The Land Board has made its decision."
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/20/1122184/-Montana-s-Coal-Cowboy-Gov-Schweitzer-on-huge-coal-mine-The-Land-Board-has-made-its-decision

He's more than welcome to run against the President's record.

lists:

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What follows is a PARTIAL list of Obama’s accomplishments so far. Unlike many such lists, there is a link to a citation supporting every single one.

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Wall Street Reforms and Consumer Protection

Ordered 65 executives who took bailout money to cut their own pay until they paid back all bailout money. http://huff.to/eAi9Qq

He pushed through and got passed Dodd-Frank, one of the largest and most comprehensive Wall Street reforms since the Great Depression. http://bit.ly/hWCPg0 http://bit.ly/geHpcD

Dodd-Frank also included the creation of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau http://1.usa.gov/j5onG

He made it so that banks could no longer use YOUR money to invest in high-risk financial instruments that work against their own customers’ interests. http://bit.ly/fnTayj

He supported the concept of allowing stockholders to vote on executive compensation. http://bit.ly/fnTayj

He wholly endorsed and supported the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act of 2009 that would close offshore tax avoidance loopholes. http://bit.ly/esOdfB http://bit.ly/eG4DPM

He made a deal with Swiss banks that permits the US government to gain access to the records of criminals and tax evaders. http://bit.ly/htfDgw

He established a Consumer Protection Financial Bureau designed to protect consumers from financial sector excesses. http://bit.ly/fnTayj

He oversaw and then signed the most sweeping food safety legislation since the Great Depression. http://thedc.com/gxkCtP

Civil Rights and Anti-Discrimination

He advocated for and signed the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act, which made it a federal crime to assault anyone based on his or her sexual orientation or gender identity. http://bit.ly/gsMSJ7

He pushed through, signed and demanded the Pentagon enact a repeal of the discriminatory “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” policy that forced soldiers to lie to fight for their country, and put our troops at risk by disqualifying many qualified soldiers from helping. http://bit.ly/fdahuH http://bit.ly/mZV4Pz

He appointed Kareem Dale as the first ever Special Assistant to the President for Disability Policy. http://1.usa.gov/fi5IY0

Helped Congress pass and signed the Civil Rights History Act. http://bit.ly/th0JC8

He extended benefits to same-sex partners of federal employees. http://1.usa.gov/g2RLCj

He’s appointed more openly gay officials than anyone in history. http://bit.ly/g1lA7D

He issued a Presidential Memorandum reaffirming the rights of gay couples to make medical decisions for each other. http://1.usa.gov/aUueGT

He established a White House Council on Women and Girls http://1.usa.gov/rFfqMM

He signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, restoring basic protections against pay discrimination for women and other workers. This was after the GOP blocked the bill in 2007. Only 5 Republican Senators voted for the bill. http://bit.ly/fT3Cxg

Wrote and signed an Executive Order establishing a White House Council on Women and Girls to ensure that all Cabinet and Cabinet-level agencies evaluate the effect of their policies and programs on women and families. http://bit.ly/e1puTk

He expanded funding for the Violence Against Women Act. http://1.usa.gov/dSbI0x

Under his watch, National Labor Relations Board has issued final rules that require all employers to prominently post employees’ rights where all employees or prospective employees can see it, including websites and intranets, beginning November 2011. http://1.usa.gov/qu2EhQ

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http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/02/15/a-long-list-of-president-obamas-accomplishments-with-citations/


Ally Bank To Pay $98 Million For Charging Higher Interest To Non-White Borrowers
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024208931

U.S. orders mortgage servicer Ocwen to help borrowers with $2 billion

By Emily Stephenson

(Reuters) - U.S. officials on Thursday ordered the largest nonbank mortgage servicer to provide $2 billion in help to underwater borrowers to resolve allegations of misconduct that led to thousands of people losing their homes.

Ocwen Financial Corp must reduce loan balances for struggling homeowners and refund $125 million to foreclosed borrowers under an agreement with the U.S. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and officials from 49 states and the District of Columbia.

Ocwen failed to account for borrowers' payments, gave false reasons for denying loan modifications and robo-signed legal documents, the consumer bureau said.

In many cases, after Ocwen began servicing loans, it did not respect trial modifications that had already been agreed to by the lenders, consumer bureau Director Richard Cordray said.

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/19/us-financial-regulation-ocwen-idUSBRE9BI0ZT20131219


Elizabeth Warren:

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When I worked to set up the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, I pushed hard for steps that would increase transparency in the marketplace. The crisis began one lousy mortgage at a time, and there is a lot we must do to make sure there are never again so many lousy mortgages .

CFPB made some important steps in the right direction, and I think we’re a lot safer than we were .

There is no question that Dodd-Frank was a strong bill—the strongest in three generations. I didn’t have a chance to vote for it because I wasn’t yet in the Senate, but if I could have, I would have voted for it twice.

Even so, the law is not perfect. And so it’s important to ask: Where are we now, five years after the crisis hit and three years after Dodd-Frank?

<...>

Powerful interests will fight to hang on to every benefit and subsidy they now enjoy. Even after exploiting consumers, larding their books with excessive risk, and making bad bets that brought down the economy and forced taxpayer bailouts, the big Wall Street banks are not chastened .

They have fought to delay and hamstring the implementation of financial reform, and they will continue to fight every inch of the way .

That’s the battlefield. That’s what we’re up against. But David beat Goliath with the establishment of CFPB and, just a few months ago, with the confirmation of Rich Cordray .

David beat Goliath with the passage of Dodd-Frank. We did that together – Americans for Financial Reform, the Roosevelt Institute, and so many of you in this room. I am confident David can beat Goliath on Too Big to Fail. We just have to pick up the slingshot again .

Thank you .

http://www.warren.senate.gov/files/documents/AFR%20Roosevelt%20Institute%20Speech%202013-11-12.pdf


Elizabeth Warren: Cordray Vote ‘A Historic Day For Working Families’

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) took to Twitter on Tuesday in praise of the Senate's vote to advance Richard Cordray's nomination to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, calling it a "historic day for working families."

Elizabeth Warren ✔ @elizabethforma

I couldn't be more pleased that Rich Cordray will finally get the vote that he deserves. This is a historic day for working families!
1:11 PM - 16 Jul 2013

47 Retweets 26 favorites

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/elizabeth-warren-cordray-vote-historic-day-for-working

The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau gets busy
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023372682

SEC Will Require Companies To Report CEO-To-Worker Pay Ratios
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023694931

Regulators Finalize Stricter Volcker Rule - Reuters/HuffPo
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024158305

NLRB to Prosecute Wal-Mart For Violating Workers’ Rights (updated)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024053560

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Brian Schweitzer Can't Really Think Of Anything Nice To Say About Obama's Record (Original Post) ProSense Jan 2014 OP
Trashing Obama certainly won't help other Democrats in 2014. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #1
He didn't trash him. He just didn't praise him Warpy Jan 2014 #3
This is ProSense Jan 2014 #10
Except Schweitzer did trash Obama as both incompetent and a threat to human freedom. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #21
Then he isn't smart enough to be President. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #2
An 'A' rating from the NRA is an interesting fact. nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #4
Montanan. nt grasswire Jan 2014 #7
Brian Schweitzer doesn't praise Obama. Prosense ATTACK!!!!! DesMoinesDem Jan 2014 #5
ProSense "doesn't praise" Brian Schweitzer...DesMoinesDem changes subject to ProSense. ProSense Jan 2014 #6
Every thread you create says more about you than whatever propaganda you're trying to push. DesMoinesDem Jan 2014 #8
Ooh, the DU Sheriff is on the case. ProSense Jan 2014 #13
You have more than 100,000 posts of propaganda. Kinda hard to ignore you around here. DesMoinesDem Jan 2014 #14
I think you like paying attention to me. ProSense Jan 2014 #15
You bet. I love pointing out your obvious propaganda. DesMoinesDem Jan 2014 #17
Ooh, ProSense Jan 2014 #18
Nope DesMoinesDem Jan 2014 #19
GENIUS bobduca Jan 2014 #73
Yeah, when you can't handle the Message ATTACK the Messenger.. that's Cha Jan 2014 #47
This ^^^^^^^^^^^ treestar Jan 2014 #57
He did a lot more than "not praise" treestar Jan 2014 #56
The MSNBC article is a sensationalized hit piece ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2014 #9
Well, ProSense Jan 2014 #12
Too bad his actual full quotes speak to a 99% populist ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2014 #16
What does that even mean? ProSense Jan 2014 #20
Well.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2014 #23
What does ProSense Jan 2014 #26
MSNBC/AP has dubbed him the "Anti-Obama" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2014 #28
You simply ProSense Jan 2014 #32
And you completely ignored.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2014 #36
Quote ProSense Jan 2014 #38
Well, his hate of Medicaid might win him some votes back, nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #40
Has Governor Schweitzer disputed the story? His eagerness to piss over the entire geek tragedy Jan 2014 #22
The story just came out, what, today at noon? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2014 #24
Moot question, this is the story he wanted out there. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #30
Oh really? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2014 #33
Yes, the fact that he refused to praise any aspect of Obama's record shows geek tragedy Jan 2014 #35
Really don't know why you or MSNBC are so worried ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2014 #39
I want a credible challenge to Clinton from the left. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #42
O'Malley is exactly the sort of democrat that makes Schweitzer seem appealing. Vattel Jan 2014 #66
I don't think running as the anti-Obama will win him any elections Rex Jan 2014 #11
K&R. What was Schweitzer thinking?! ecstatic Jan 2014 #25
Attention.. that's what he's thinking.. and the best way to get it is from divisive bullshit, Cha Jan 2014 #49
oh? Brian a strong supporter of Keystone and now Whisp Jan 2014 #27
He's off his freaking rocker. The man's a dirtbag. Whisp Jan 2014 #29
Any Democrat who looks at all the obstruction Obama's faced over the last TwilightGardener Jan 2014 #31
thank you, TwilightGardener.. I was getting Cha Jan 2014 #50
+1 JoePhilly Jan 2014 #53
+10000000000 treestar Jan 2014 #58
He's a clown BeyondGeography Jan 2014 #34
Isn't he a blue dog? n/t EC Jan 2014 #37
Yeah, Blue Dogs love single payer.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2014 #41
Everyone loves single payer now ProSense Jan 2014 #43
Ok.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2014 #45
What on earth ProSense Jan 2014 #48
Why don't you just answer my question.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2014 #54
Who cares? n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #55
Well, thanks, I guess.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2014 #59
Again ProSense Jan 2014 #61
It's absolutely relevant when your first post in this subthread.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2014 #62
I said everyone supports single payer now ProSense Jan 2014 #63
Tsk. Tsk. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #44
He had one nice thing to say...... Beacool Jan 2014 #46
Too bad that doesn't seem to be a direct quote from the man himself ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2014 #60
No, I think enough of how he feels about Obama was quoted. Beacool Jan 2014 #64
Too bad that actual quote never comes from his mouth, apparently ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2014 #65
It is amazing that no one seems to be able to concede your point Vattel Jan 2014 #67
Yeah, he sure sounds like he supports Obama......... Beacool Jan 2014 #68
Again, you keep pulling the same out of context quotes as "the proof" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2014 #77
Thank you, ProSense! Brilliant complilation Cha Jan 2014 #51
:) n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #52
Tunnel-vision and ODS are apparently not unique to Republicans. eom Jamaal510 Jan 2014 #69
Good lord Egnever Jan 2014 #70
fly my pretty blue links fly! bobduca Jan 2014 #71
So obvious.. you can't handle the message so you attack the Cha Jan 2014 #72
Rachel's answer to Schweitzer's Ignorance.. Cha Jan 2014 #74
I like this comment @ TPM.. Cha Jan 2014 #75
Lily Ledbetter, Fair Sentencing Act, expiration of Bush tax cuts, diplomacy in Iran/Syria, Medicaid BenzoDia Jan 2014 #76
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
1. Trashing Obama certainly won't help other Democrats in 2014.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:17 PM
Jan 2014

Then again, given his refusal to run for Senate to replace Baucus in 2014, pretty clear Brian Schweitzer doesn't give a fuck about helping the party, just promoting himself.

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
3. He didn't trash him. He just didn't praise him
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:23 PM
Jan 2014

and there's a difference. I wouldn't expect public praise. I doubt Obama does, either.

He's trying to distance himself from all the bad stuff that's happened and keep up his outsider image.

This is politics. If you don't like the man, that's fine. However, running for the Senate and then having a Republican governor appoint his successor when he runs for the presidency is not serving the country or the party well.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
10. This is
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:33 PM
Jan 2014

"He didn't trash him. He just didn't praise him"

...spin. The article is clearly anti-Obama, including the reference to the "first black president."

“My mother, God rest her soul, told me ‘Brian, if you can’t think of something nice to say about something change the subject,’” he said.

But he couldn’t help himself, slamming Obama’s record on civil liberties (the NSA revelations were “un-effing-believable”), his competency (“They just haven’t been very good at running things”), and above all, Obamacare (“It will collapse on its own weight”).

Eventually, he paused to acknowledge Obama’s historic role as the first black president. But by that standard, Obama’s usefulness ended the day he took the oath of office.

Schweitzer’s scorn for Obama has led him to hatch a surprising plan. After turning down a run for Senate this year and settling into a new job as a mining executive, the ex-governor surprised observers by announcing his interest in a possible run for president in 2016. He’s since visited Iowa, the kickoff caucus state, to rail against Obama’s “corporatist” health care law and to criticize Hillary Clinton, the presumed Democratic frontrunner in 2016, for voting to authorize the Iraq war when she was a New York senator.
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
21. Except Schweitzer did trash Obama as both incompetent and a threat to human freedom.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:48 PM
Jan 2014

After saying Obama hadn't done a single thing worth praising other than being a racial symbol.

It's Teabilly rhetoric.

Schweitzer isn't a serious candidate for President--he would have been a serious candidate for Senate.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
13. Ooh, the DU Sheriff is on the case.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:37 PM
Jan 2014

"Every thread you create says more about you than whatever propaganda you're trying to push."

What does that comment say about you? Maybe a little too focused on me?



 

DesMoinesDem

(1,569 posts)
17. You bet. I love pointing out your obvious propaganda.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:43 PM
Jan 2014

I know it pisses you off. That's why you always alert on me. Admit it.

Almost forgot:

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
18. Ooh,
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:45 PM
Jan 2014

"I know it pisses you off. That's why you always alert on me. Admit it. I know it pisses you off. That's why you always alert on me. Admit it."

...it looks like the Sheriff, who admits an certain obsession, is also paranoid.

Too funny.



Cha

(297,192 posts)
47. Yeah, when you can't handle the Message ATTACK the Messenger.. that's
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 04:59 PM
Jan 2014

what Christie's Crew did to Mayor Steven Fulop of Jersey City!

treestar

(82,383 posts)
56. He did a lot more than "not praise"
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 09:10 PM
Jan 2014

And I see he's picking up lots of love here just for his ridiculously inaccurate words. Can't think of anything? Stupid.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
9. The MSNBC article is a sensationalized hit piece
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:32 PM
Jan 2014

Any time your most "damning quotes" are couched in one line excerpts by the reporter, buyer beware.

People here at DU should know better. But when it serves a purpose, I guess they don't.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
12. Well,
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:35 PM
Jan 2014
The MSNBC article is a sensationalized hit piece

Any time your most "damning quotes" are couched in one line excerpts by the reporter, buyer beware.

People here at DU should know better. But when it serves a purpose, I guess they don't

...it found an audience.

The records speak for themselves. No one should object to highlighting the facts.



ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
16. Too bad his actual full quotes speak to a 99% populist
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:42 PM
Jan 2014

But that's not what this is about, I guess. Wouldn't want to bury the lead.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
20. What does that even mean?
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:47 PM
Jan 2014

"Too bad his actual full quotes speak to a 99% populist"

Pro fracking, pro Keystone, pro coal, pro NRA "populist"?

Run with that. By that measure Joe Manchin is a "populist."



ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
23. Well....
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:50 PM
Jan 2014
“I think what Bill de Blasio is talking about is absolutely correct,” Schweitzer said of the new mayor of New York City, who was elected in a landslide by focusing on economic inequality. “The gap between haves and the have-nots is growing.”


That's a full quote by the way, which was rare for the article. Not a leap to a conclusion that Obama's usefulness ended the day he was inaugurated because he's black. Disgusting "reporting".

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
26. What does
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:56 PM
Jan 2014
“I think what Bill de Blasio is talking about is absolutely correct,” Schweitzer said of the new mayor of New York City, who was elected in a landslide by focusing on economic inequality. “The gap between haves and the have-nots is growing.”


...that have to do with running as the anti-Obama, especially with his other positions?

Obama Tells New Mayors He’ll Help Fight Inequality

WASHINGTON — President Obama vowed on Friday to join Bill de Blasio, the mayor-elect of New York, and other urban leaders in an effort to combat growing inequalities in American society and pressed Congress to extend unemployment benefits now set to expire.

“What we know is we’ve still got a lot of work to do to deliver a vision that we all share, which is an America where if you work hard, you can make it,” Mr. Obama said as he welcomed Mr. de Blasio and other newly elected mayors to the White House.

The meeting was an opportunity for the president to summon the momentum of Mr. de Blasio’s election as he increasingly makes the themes of disparity between rich and poor a theme of his second term. Many liberals hoped that Mr. de Blasio’s strong victory in November on such a platform signaled newfound public support for policies that would help lower-income Americans left behind as the economic recovery powers a surge on Wall Street.

Mr. de Blasio emerged from the White House enthusiastic about the budding alliance. “There was real passion in the president’s voice,” he said in the driveway outside the West Wing. “We all now know clearly that he will be a partner in all we do.”

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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/14/nyregion/obama-tells-mayors-hell-help-fight-inequality.html

Obama's inequality speech: telling the progressive story of American history
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/05/1260417/-Obama-s-inequality-speech-telling-the-progressive-story-of-American-history

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
28. MSNBC/AP has dubbed him the "Anti-Obama"
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:59 PM
Jan 2014

Why don't you ask them? Do you have one quote where HE has called himself that???

Shit, I thought questioning the mainstream media and their bullshit should be SOP around here, but I guess not. Clearly, Brian Schweitzer is as big a teabilly and Obama hater as Sarah Palin and Louie Gohmert. You, the AP and MSNBC have convinced me! Single payer is just code for "Die, and die quickly!"

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
32. You simply
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 03:05 PM
Jan 2014
MSNBC/AP has dubbed him the "Anti-Obama"

Why don't you ask them? Do you have one quote where HE has called himself that???

Shit, I thought questioning the mainstream media and their bullshit should be SOP around here, but I guess not. Clearly, Brian Schweitzer is as big a teabilly and Obama hater as Sarah Palin and Louie Gohmert. You, the AP and MSNBC have convinced me! Single payer is just code for "Die, and die quickly!"

...cannot pin the tone of this article on MSNBC.

“My mother, God rest her soul, told me ‘Brian, if you can’t think of something nice to say about something change the subject,’” he said.

But he couldn’t help himself, slamming Obama’s record on civil liberties (the NSA revelations were “un-effing-believable”), his competency (“They just haven’t been very good at running things”), and above all, Obamacare (“It will collapse on its own weight”).

Eventually, he paused to acknowledge Obama’s historic role as the first black president. But by that standard, Obama’s usefulness ended the day he took the oath of office.

Schweitzer’s scorn for Obama has led him to hatch a surprising plan. After turning down a run for Senate this year and settling into a new job as a mining executive, the ex-governor surprised observers by announcing his interest in a possible run for president in 2016. He’s since visited Iowa, the kickoff caucus state, to rail against Obama’s “corporatist” health care law and to criticize Hillary Clinton, the presumed Democratic frontrunner in 2016, for voting to authorize the Iraq war when she was a New York senator.


ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
36. And you completely ignored....
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 03:10 PM
Jan 2014

....that those quotes are one liners taken out of context. Does that even bother you in the least?

And where does he actually say Obama usefulness ended the day he took the oath of office. That's the reporter dropping it in there. That doesn't concern you....just a little bit?

By the way, I would likely not vote for Schweitzer. I know that if he said anything about single payer or praised Bill De Blasio in a General Election, he'd get curb stomped as a dirty commie. I've accepted the inevitable, safe, centrist....and am praying they shock me.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
38. Quote
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 03:15 PM
Jan 2014
“My mother, God rest her soul, told me ‘Brian, if you can’t think of something nice to say about something change the subject,’” he said.

The fact remains he set the tone for the piece.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
22. Has Governor Schweitzer disputed the story? His eagerness to piss over the entire
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:50 PM
Jan 2014

Obama presidency has been more than apparent.

He should make up his mind whether he wants the Green Party or the Libertarian Party nomination, because he's not going to get the Democratic nomination talking up the "Obama has done nothing but be black" racialist Teabilly nonsense.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
24. The story just came out, what, today at noon?
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:54 PM
Jan 2014

The real question will be if he disputes some of the stuff in there, will you believe it, or will you scoff that it's "damage control". I bet I know what your answer will be.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
35. Yes, the fact that he refused to praise any aspect of Obama's record shows
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 03:10 PM
Jan 2014

he's eagerly embracing his role as the Better Believe It of the Democratic party.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
39. Really don't know why you or MSNBC are so worried
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 03:15 PM
Jan 2014

The inevitable is coming. And no, I don't believe she'll be forced to "run left" as the article suggests. Not even a bit.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
42. I want a credible challenge to Clinton from the left.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 03:17 PM
Jan 2014

It won't come from some hair-brained bozo who can't decide if he's Rand Paul or Bernie Sanders.

O'Malley I'm holding out hope for. Maybe someone we haven't considered much.

I'd even consider casting a protest vote in the primary for Bernie Sanders if he ran.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
66. O'Malley is exactly the sort of democrat that makes Schweitzer seem appealing.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 10:51 PM
Jan 2014

O'Malley has no respect for the citizen's constitutional rights. He openly violated the fourth amendment when he was mayor of Baltimore. Given what he did with his police force, I would hate to see him in charge of the US armed forces.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
11. I don't think running as the anti-Obama will win him any elections
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:33 PM
Jan 2014

but more power to him if he thinks that is what it takes to win.

ecstatic

(32,701 posts)
25. K&R. What was Schweitzer thinking?!
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:56 PM
Jan 2014

Already off to a bad start with divisive BS. He should stay in Montana and enjoy his fire water, guns, & pipelines.

Speaking of jackasses, it amazes me that he would do the keynote speech for someone he thought so poorly of. It reminds me of the repubs that Pres. Obama attempted to bring into the fold: Huntsman, Petraeus, Gates, etc. Opportunists who hated the president, but worked for him anyway to get their foot in the door.

Cha

(297,192 posts)
49. Attention.. that's what he's thinking.. and the best way to get it is from divisive bullshit,
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 05:09 PM
Jan 2014

apparently.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
27. oh? Brian a strong supporter of Keystone and now
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:58 PM
Jan 2014

suddenly makes a sharp turn and is against Obama...

I sure hope it's that Obama will not let the rich assholes get all they want with Keystone and that is why Brian (and the clintons) is/are pissed, having some inside info.

*crosses fingers.
yay.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
29. He's off his freaking rocker. The man's a dirtbag.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 03:00 PM
Jan 2014

wtf

I regret ever thinking he was a contender.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
31. Any Democrat who looks at all the obstruction Obama's faced over the last
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 03:05 PM
Jan 2014

5 years from a party that declared they would make him fail, and all the problems he's had to clean up, and decides he's "not good at getting stuff done" deserves a hearty Fuck You. So yeah...Fuck you, Brian Schweitzer.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
45. Ok....
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 04:04 PM
Jan 2014

So then....I guess Bernie Sanders might possibly be a sekrit Republican too.

I mean, you do acknowledge Schweitzer supported single payer long before the ACA even came to the table, right?

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
48. What on earth
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 04:59 PM
Jan 2014

"So then....I guess Bernie Sanders might possibly be a sekrit Republican too. "

...does Schweitzer has to do with Bernie Sanders?

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
54. Why don't you just answer my question....
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 08:32 PM
Jan 2014

....and stop playing your silly games of subterfuge.

Do you acknowledge that Schweitzer was a supporter of a single payer plan before the ACA came about?

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
59. Well, thanks, I guess....
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 09:43 PM
Jan 2014

At least now you've made it clear you have no interest in being intellectually honest about what the guy has stood for beyond the issues you've cherry picked to label him a teabagger or a Republican. Have a good day.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
61. Again
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 09:55 PM
Jan 2014

"At least now you've made it clear you have no interest in being intellectually honest about what the guy has stood for beyond the issues you've cherry picked to label him a teabagger or a Republican. Have a good day."

...who cares? How long he has supported single payer is completely irrelevant to the point of the OP, and doesn't negate his other horrible positions.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
62. It's absolutely relevant when your first post in this subthread....
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 10:14 PM
Jan 2014

....was to imply he only supports it NOW. Implying he did not before. Absolute intellectual dishonesty. Obviously when you are trying to paint the guy as Paul Ryan, you need to do that.

Someone asked the question if he was a Blue Dog, I answered. All the Blue Dogs I know ran from the ACA and had no intention of ever supporting ANY health care reform beyond what shit the Republicans tossed out. No Blue Dog would ever spout some of the things he does regarding the 1% culture, they'd shit their pants and resign their seat they are such cowards.

And don't worry, Hillary won't say peep either beyond her very carefully crafted third way language.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
63. I said everyone supports single payer now
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 10:24 PM
Jan 2014

"It's absolutely relevant when your first post in this subthread....was to imply he only supports it NOW. Implying he did not before. Absolute intellectual dishonesty. Obviously when you are trying to paint the guy as Paul Ryan, you need to do that."

...in response to your "blue dog" comment. And WTF is with the claim that I'm trying to "paint the guy as Paul Ryan."

What the hell does Paul Ryan have to do with single payer?

Schweitzers atrocious positions and the OP have nothing to do with friggin Paul Ryan. Lose that complex you seem to have.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
46. He had one nice thing to say......
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 04:47 PM
Jan 2014

"Eventually, he paused to acknowledge Obama’s historic role as the first black president. But by that standard, Obama’s usefulness ended the day he took the oath of office."

Nice strategy there, governor. Alienate a good portion of Democratic primary voters.



ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
60. Too bad that doesn't seem to be a direct quote from the man himself
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 09:50 PM
Jan 2014

Rather the reporter seems to draw that conclusion.

Does that trouble you? A little bit?

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
64. No, I think enough of how he feels about Obama was quoted.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 10:26 PM
Jan 2014

If he considers Obama's only achievement to be an AA who managed to get elected as president, then he doesn't have much respect for him.


ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
65. Too bad that actual quote never comes from his mouth, apparently
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 10:34 PM
Jan 2014

Otherwise the reporter would have put what he said in actual quotes, on the page for us all to read, right? I mean, they are still teaching that in journalism school, no?

And the rest are all one liners out of context couched in the reporter's own words.


 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
67. It is amazing that no one seems to be able to concede your point
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 11:18 PM
Jan 2014

that what we have here is much more a reporter's description of an interview than a transcript of an interview. As you point out, that should raise red flags, but so much for critical thinking. The aim of the OP is not the truth, but to defend our god-like leader.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
68. Yeah, he sure sounds like he supports Obama.........
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 11:22 PM
Jan 2014

In the lengthy MSNBC profile, Schweitzer also had plenty of criticism for the Democratic Party’s current standard-bearer. Asked to name a single positive achievement by Obama, Schweitzer thought for some time.

“My mother, God rest her soul, told me ‘Brian, if you can’t think of something nice to say about something, change the subject,’” Schweitzer said, criticizing the National Security Agency surveillance, Obamacare and overall competency in the administration.

“They just haven’t been very good at running things,” he said.

He credited Obama with the historical significance of being the first black president.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/01/brian-schweitzer-obamacare-102204.html?hp=l9

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
77. Again, you keep pulling the same out of context quotes as "the proof"
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 06:51 PM
Jan 2014

I don't even believe Schweitzer made half of those quotes to the reporter who wrote that interview, but somewhere else. Where's the context?

But hey, someone said "Al Gore said he invented the internet", and we still believe that too. I mean, someone said he said it, right? Must be true!

Cha

(297,192 posts)
51. Thank you, ProSense! Brilliant complilation
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 05:19 PM
Jan 2014

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of the highlights of President Obama's record that Schweitzer can't seem to pull his head out of whatever to acknowledge. What a shame.

Cha

(297,192 posts)
75. I like this comment @ TPM..
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 07:11 AM
Jan 2014

JeffyJM

14 Hours Ago

"It's one thing to run as the Anti-Obama, it's another thing completely to openly insult someone who should be in general terms a political ally, and it causes me to heavily question his judgment. Obama is not a king, his ring doesn't have to be kissed. But he is a twice elected President of the United States and a small modicum of respect is not out of line. Schweitzer could easily have pointed to the areas where the President did not go far enough to the left on, but acknowledge his role in moving things to the left, nonetheless. If he's serious about vying for the nomination, he sure has a funny way of showing it."

BenzoDia

(1,010 posts)
76. Lily Ledbetter, Fair Sentencing Act, expiration of Bush tax cuts, diplomacy in Iran/Syria, Medicaid
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 07:35 AM
Jan 2014

expansion, additional funding for Health Community Centers, this little thing called the Affordable Care Act, SC stike down of DOMA (Kagan and Sotomayer are his picks).

I mean, what has Obama done?

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