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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNo one's religion gives him the right to say hateful things about other people
Daily I give thanks that I have no religion.
What's more there is no white man who can tell people of African origin who were captured and enslaves, torn apart from their families that we were happier before we had civll rights.
The fucking nerve of these people.
Fuck that duckass. The only dynasty is that racist one - and add the homophobic one as well.
Chipper Chat
(9,719 posts)from now until the 2016 election. Let citizens know this is what the GOP stands for. It's a war and why not use the gift ammunition we have.
malaise
(269,503 posts)of slavery, jim crow and the civil rights movement.
Chipper Chat
(9,719 posts)And don't forget to smile.
rug
(82,333 posts)RC
(25,592 posts)All it takes is to be a member of the wrong group, or not be a member of "their" group.
It doesn't take much to see the loathing and scorn in some people's posts, when responding to "other".
Aren't we are all supposed to be more or less, on the same side here?
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)There's no shortage of hateful speech on DU.
I'm okay with that, I think. People can say whatever hateful thing they want, really. In some cases because there are things that deserve to be hated. More commonly, though, ensuring that people are able to say hateful things keeps spite and stupidity out in the open. And I'm usually more troubled by censorship than hate speech, to be honest...
RC
(25,592 posts)I've been called a Libertarian, Republican and other choice swear words. Which is kinda hard to believe, because I am over there by Gandhi on the political charts. I'm thinking their hate (over used word around here) is clouding their thinking. Some people think they are Democrats because they campaigned for Hillary or Obama. Or voted for them.
But you are correct in your post, though.
BarackTheVote
(938 posts)You can say what you want, but that doesn't mean there won't be consequences. Whether it's a reprimand from someone who's not an ignoramus, or getting fired from your job, or getting a fist in the teeth. Censorship is terrible, and I also pretty much guarantee that in today's political climate, the people getting shut up wouldn't be the bigoted hate-spewers--it would be the anti-establishment hippy progressives like yours truly.
progressoid
(50,043 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)El Supremo
(20,365 posts)You don't have to be an atheist.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)... to express their idiocy ... they just don't have a right to be shielded from the consequences of their stupidity.
just as they have the right to express themselves I have the right to express my reaction and impose consequences (if I so choose, withhold money, patronage ... or whatever)
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)Unfortunately, A&E needs that guy and his family more than they need A&E.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)I didn't watch prior to his hateful ignorant comments and I wont watch now ... he can say whatever he wants as can I ... I am ever mindful that there are consequences associated with my words and actions (admittedly, the things that come out of his mouth would never even cross my mind, much less my lips)
malaise
(269,503 posts)never watched - that won't change
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)I still hunt deer and grouse. I was aware of the program and watched about ten minutes total over a couple episodes and it just did not interest me. What I saw was not political or religous, but the bayou boys persona just did not intetest me.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)... and I don't know anyone that actually watches the show. My thoughts: hunting is not the draw (could be wrong, because I didn't inquire into what the show was until this)
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Cha
(298,313 posts)he's exposed it to the world.
marew
(1,588 posts)Zorra
(27,670 posts)that their religion gives them every reason and right to hate, and every reason and right to express their hate freely, in an attempt to injure innocent others who are different from them.
They also believe that their hatred, and expressions of hatred, are noble and justified, and should be immune from criticism.
They are, in reality, just a group of sad, ignorant, conservative, hate driven people, who believe in lies so that they can feel better about themselves, and find some false certainty in an uncertain world.
They live a confused, unhappy life, in the midst of a conscience crushing, powerful delusion of false righteousness.
Every word you wrote, though, is equally applicable to bigots who believe their lack of religion sanctions and supports their hate, etc..
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)Dick Cheney exists.
Dick Cheney is a Dick.
I say hateful things about Dick Cheney.
What gives me that right?
The fact that Dick Cheney exists gives me that right.
Even if Dick Cheney did not exist, I could say hateful things about an imaginary person who has the same traits that "real" Dick Cheney possesses.
I will not have you try to take that right away from me.
I wish to continue to hate on Dick Cheney.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)to whatever point you really wanted to make.
As for the Duck idiots- they crap wasn't selling in the stores this Christmas and they needed to invent something to get some free PR and boost sales.
It's disgusting they use bigotry to market so blatantly.
malaise
(269,503 posts)I never watched the show,
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Dolan and Francis have no standing to judge others, no right to attack us, no reason to slander us but for their own agendas, greed and lust for absolute power.
malaise
(269,503 posts)They can't fool me either
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stopbush
(24,404 posts)TV networks aren't the government.
So, while a bigot is free to express his bigotry without fear of reprisal or sanction from the government, he does not enjoy the same right when it comes to what his employer chooses to do.
Whether a person believes their religion or the First Amendment gives them the right to freely express their bigotry, that doesn't excuse their bigotry from being received negatively in the public square, nor in there being real consequences for their expressing their bigotry.
People have the right to express their views. There is no expectation that the rest of us have to believe their views have any validity. That's true if the subject is religion, politics or what have you.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)like you, I have no religion, is that all the so-called "holy" books of all Western religions say the same things as the one that Phil Robertson is paraphrasing.
Should I be angrier with him for saying what that book contains than I am at that book for containing it?
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Bigotry is unacceptable, regardless of the reasons for the bigotry. I'm so fucking sick and tired of hearing religious belief used as a justification for bigotry.
If your religion is teaching you bigotry, it's time to dump your religion.
Sid
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Jesus even defended the prostitute.
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