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Very interesting lady...
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)Those students could deal for a few mins with what folks have to deal with tenfold their entire lifetime...
jwirr
(39,215 posts)through it. We would have some trouble with my 3 great grand children. All are brown eyed except one. She would not take it very well.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)marble falls
(57,204 posts)a2liberal
(1,524 posts)TheDebbieDee
(11,119 posts)in the mid 80s.....Sally brought the guest out and the guest explained her theories and took a few questions. The guest was very confrontational with the questioners with the subject colored eyes and even told some of them to shut up and sit down.
Then the guest put together an experimental group of 10 blue eyed people and 10 brown eyed people - then the real fun begins....Interesting experiment, tho.
OffWithTheirHeads
(10,337 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)Response to HipChick (Original post)
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Vattel
(9,289 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)Vattel
(9,289 posts)gollygee
(22,336 posts)She treats people with a pre-conceived notion that they are bad, which is something people of color often face. It's to show how it feels, which isn't good.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)Seems messed up to me.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)They leave the class and they swim in white privilege again. People of color don't ever get to just leave the class.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)that they survive and don't understand. You missed the point. Tell that to the Hispanic men and women that are presumed "illegal". Tell ALL of them that whatever race or color that somehow are underprivileged that they should be delighted that they fall in the class of homosexual, and therefore aren't real people and not representative of their racial groups, social groups or religious groups.
There is white privilege, straight privilege, class privilege, and many other kinds of privilege. Many people have privilege in one area but lack in in another area. People absolutely become victims of violence in areas where they lack privilege and face discrimination.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)(Not the post you are responding to, but some of the ones that the poster you are responded to tried to respond to themselves)
I appreciate your attempt at trying to bridge the divide but as usual, it seemed to not go very far.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)Vattel
(9,289 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)where blacks are discriminated against and viewed as bad just because of the color of their skin.
Boom.
Let me guess, you're white?
Aerows
(39,961 posts)where you don't understand how women are discriminated against far more than skin color, but by gender.
Insult another group, they feel bad. derp
Like we didn't know racism feels bad.
we can do it
(12,193 posts)If not LGBT, you don't know how homophobia feels. Period.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)won't give us an idea of how racism feels.
Everyone in that classroom knew it was an exercise and that it would end in a few minutes. That's not real racism.
Institutionalized racism isn't a white guy yelling at you and making you feel bad, it's not overt at all and far more complex than that.
This exercise is too simplistic and she's a bit looney.
If you are a male you have no idea what patriarchy really is.
M0rpheus
(885 posts)What would you do?
Given the limited amount of time for the excercise, there's no room for subtlety and nuance.
Having seen all of these that I could find (there are quite a few), I can say the results are almost exactly the same in each.The people who are singled out are not used to being treated as "second class" and become quite angry about it. They say it's unfair what's being done to them. And in the end, they get to go home.
The minnesota professor who was sanctioned because 3 white students didn't appreciate the topic of privilege and racism from the perspective of a woman of color is the perfect example of why the blunt example can be better than a calm discussion. Many people don't understand unless they are shown.
You're right, institutional racism is far more complex than it's made out to be in the video... but she only had 2 hours to make a point.
How would you do it?
we can do it
(12,193 posts)I thought this was very good, but could not hear half of it.
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)I'm glad you posted because I was thinking my laptop speakers had failed. I was just about to go test them on another page with sound.
we can do it
(12,193 posts)Thought the exercise was good.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)"Had the misfortune to be born gay."
If that's what this woman got from his death and is teaching in our schools, she's a lunatic.
He didn't have the misfortune to be born gay, he was born into a world that was too violent, poisonous and intolerant that someone like him can thrive. Much like the same children she is trying to reach, but doing so with surrogates that will never understand ( people in a college setting).
Dumbest video I've ever seen, unless she meant it so. I had to shut it off after the Matthew Shepard comments.
hunter
(38,326 posts)Response to HipChick (Original post)
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liberal N proud
(60,344 posts)TxDemChem
(1,918 posts)But I'm still going to recommend it to my daughter and her friends. I hope this will give them some perspective in case they ever start to think they are better than others.
Behind the Aegis
(53,987 posts)We used it and variations of it in many a diversity presentation. To change things up, sometimes I would choose something rather random and overly stupid as the basis of who were the "blue eyes" (non-discriminated against) and the "brown eyes" (the victims of discrimination). I chose things for which we had control (shoelaces or none, belts or none, earrings, and the like), or things which we had no control (left-handedness, attached earlobes, and such). It was always interesting to watch people try and to figure out why they were discriminating or being discriminated against.