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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 04:06 PM Nov 2013

Journalist "...advised by her lawyers that it is "not safe to return home" to the UK."

Sarah Harrison joins other Edward Snowden files 'exiles' in Berlin
UK journalist's lawyers advise against returning home after working with NSA whistleblower, says statement on WikiLeaks

Philip Oltermann in Berlin - The Guardian
Wednesday 6 November 2013 14.45 EST


UK WikiLeaks journalist Sarah Harrison with Edward Snowden in Moscow in October. Photograph: Sunshine Press/Getty Images

<snip>

Sarah Harrison, the British journalist and WikiLeaks staffer who has been working with Edward Snowden since his arrival in Moscow, has left Russia and joined the growing band of net activists stranded in Berlin.

A statement released on the WikiLeaks website, attributed to Harrison, states that she arrived in Germany on Saturday and has been advised by her lawyers that it is "not safe to return home" to the UK.

Harrison joins a growing group of journalists and activists who were involved in the publication of Snowden's files and are now living in the German capital "in effective exile", including Laura Poitras and Jacob Applebaum.

The statement, which is also quoted on Spiegel website, accused the US and UK governments of using "aggressive tactics" against journalists who have reported on unethical surveillance practices.

"It should be fanciful to suggest that national security journalism which has the purpose of producing honest government or enforcing basic privacy rights should be called 'terrorism', but that is how the UK is choosing to interpret this law."

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More: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/06/sarah-harrison-edward-snowden-berlin


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Journalist "...advised by her lawyers that it is "not safe to return home" to the UK." (Original Post) WillyT Nov 2013 OP
yikes FirstLight Nov 2013 #1
Not at all. Ava Gadro Nov 2013 #27
So if journalists speaking and writing the truth are considered to be truedelphi Nov 2013 #2
So much for the Transparency Administration. bvar22 Nov 2013 #3
but he only told us stuff WE ALREADY KNEW!!! Skittles Nov 2013 #4
You did see the title. She is BRITISH. She claims she cannot return to ENGLAND. DevonRex Nov 2013 #22
1984 Octafish Nov 2013 #5
K&R DeSwiss Nov 2013 #6
Thanks for your post. JDPriestly Nov 2013 #7
This is about GCHQ and the UK. Thank you for reading. DevonRex Nov 2013 #23
I Also Thank You For That... WillyT Nov 2013 #8
Kick !!! WillyT Nov 2013 #9
aiding and abetting someone whom some goverments consider a spy can do that. dionysus Nov 2013 #10
And Interviewing Said "Spy" ??? WillyT Nov 2013 #11
not saying it's right willy, just saying it's to be expected in this case. dionysus Nov 2013 #12
Tell Me Why It's Expected... And THEN I'll Kiss Your Ass... WillyT Nov 2013 #13
Frank Zappa expected (predicted) it. bvar22 Nov 2013 #25
Kick !!! WillyT Nov 2013 #14
Terrorism? Danascot Nov 2013 #15
Funny. She says her attorneys said it isn't safe. DevonRex Nov 2013 #16
Your Understanding Of The 1st Amendment...Is Underwhelming... WillyT Nov 2013 #17
Um, she happens to be British. Nevertheless, DevonRex Nov 2013 #18
Sieg Heil... WillyT Nov 2013 #19
What a bullshit response Willy. You fucked up. She is British. DevonRex Nov 2013 #20
your little fists are flailing willy... dionysus Nov 2013 #21
Aside from the legalities, how does the exile living condition work? seveneyes Nov 2013 #24
News is what somebody somewhere wants to suppress; all the rest is advertising. Lord Northcliffe Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2013 #26

Ava Gadro

(36 posts)
27. Not at all.
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 04:59 PM
Nov 2013

Hell, I haven't felt safe in a long time and I'm just a dummy at her keyboard posting on a forum. I can't imagine what it must be like to be a professional journalist.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
2. So if journalists speaking and writing the truth are considered to be
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 04:32 PM
Nov 2013

Terrorists, how soon before those of us who write Letters to the Editor, or who praise them on internet sites like this one, will find themselves assigned that nefarious status?

I clearly remember when Glenn Greenwald was part of the lawsuit protesting one section of the NDDA, and Obama said in response, something to the effect, "You, Glenn, would not be targeted under that provision."

And less than three years later, Greenwald's partner is refused entrance to Great Britain, sent back to Rio de Janero, and officially sanctioned as a "terrorist." And this due to the fact that Snowden is considered a top terrorist, and anyone carrying files gleaned from Snowden is in that same boat.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
3. So much for the Transparency Administration.
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 05:40 PM
Nov 2013

Welcome to the New American Century, pawns!
Hahahahahahahahaha!

Skittles

(153,211 posts)
4. but he only told us stuff WE ALREADY KNEW!!!
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 06:01 PM
Nov 2013

er.....OK just wait, they will be along shortly with another meme

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
6. K&R
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 06:06 PM
Nov 2013
''When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it--always.'' ~Mahatma Gandhi


JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
7. Thanks for your post.
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 07:03 PM
Nov 2013

I really needed to read those wise words today. I find the massive stupidity and propaganda rather depressing at times. So we are spending how many billions on the NSA snoops but the internet is still full of viruses and trojan horses. Could barely get mine on today. What is the NSA doing with all that money?

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
11. And Interviewing Said "Spy" ???
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 09:06 PM
Nov 2013

THAT is aiding and abetting ???

So... Woodward and Bernstein should have been jailed for Watergate?

The New York Times Editors should have been jailed over The Pentagon Papers?

Do you even understand what it means to BE American?

And finally... do you salute yourself in the mirror before you shave and brush you teeth?


dionysus

(26,467 posts)
12. not saying it's right willy, just saying it's to be expected in this case.
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 09:10 PM
Nov 2013

world ain't perfect.

and you can kiss my ass with your lame insults.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
13. Tell Me Why It's Expected... And THEN I'll Kiss Your Ass...
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 09:22 PM
Nov 2013

Are you saying that the things we've been taught for generations are... BULLSHIT ???

And if that's true...what do we tell the children?


bvar22

(39,909 posts)
25. Frank Zappa expected (predicted) it.
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 04:50 PM
Nov 2013
[font size=3]“The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.”

---musician, philosopher, prophet Frank Zappa, [/font]


They don't even bother to hide it anymore.

Many Italians went along with Mussolini & Fascism gladly,
and many Germans cheered the emergence of Security/WAR State in Germany.
Many Americans are going along with this one here in America today.

Now, some are even starting to jeer and taunt those of us who oppose this.

Too BAD! You should have said something sooner, dumbass!!!

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
16. Funny. She says her attorneys said it isn't safe.
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 01:51 AM
Nov 2013

Maybe they did. Maybe they'll say that now that she's said that publicly. After all, she pays them.

Just because she says they said that doesn't mean it's actually true that it isn't safe to return home. For any reason whatsoever. Personally or professionally.

But y'all go ahead and have a conniption fit just because a journalist who makes money selling articles, and the more publicity the better about those articles, decides to make an unprovable statement.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
17. Your Understanding Of The 1st Amendment...Is Underwhelming...
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 02:03 AM
Nov 2013

And yeah... I Know GB does not have a 1st Amendment.


DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
18. Um, she happens to be British. Nevertheless,
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 02:11 AM
Nov 2013

I have no idea whether what she said is true or not. She said her attorneys advised her not to return to the UK. OK...

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
20. What a bullshit response Willy. You fucked up. She is British.
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 02:28 AM
Nov 2013

Has nothing to do with the first amendment of the U.S.constitution and now you're lashing out from embarrassment. It has nothing to do with our government at all. Nothing to do with anything since there is no proof of her claim. And even if her attorneys back her up now, she pays them, so they would, wouldn't they?

What? She can never return home? Ever, as long as she lives? Because she innocently "interviewed" someone? Yeah, right. She might be questioned. Sure. So publish her piece, then go home empty handed, get questioned, and go on with her life. That's what journalists do. But never go home? Oh just fucking bullshit.

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
24. Aside from the legalities, how does the exile living condition work?
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 03:14 PM
Nov 2013

In these case where journalists are stuck in a foreign country for extended periods, where do they stay, eat and acquire money when they can't do their jobs? Is there some trust fund for these outcasts? Aside from the ridiculous heavy handedness of the creeps acting out against these people, these question always surface when I hear of such foolishness.

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