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MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 09:11 PM Nov 2013

My (apparent) little victory over Fox "News"!

Hi. I work in Community support for a small mental health agency here in Maine. A few mornings every week, several of us bring our clients to a local McDonald's for some peer interaction/unpaid support time. One of the things that consistently annoyed me was the fact that Fox "News" was ALWAYS on their TV.

While I never included my co-workers, and certainly not my clients, in this, I always made a point of complaining about my breakfast being served up with lies and hateful bile on the side. I was told by more than one shift leader that the owner of that particular franchise had left instructions that Fox must be the only station for the dining room tv.

I pointed out to the shift leaders that their boss is an idiot because Maine is a blue state, we voted for President Obama twice with percentages in the high 50s, I was sure that I wasn't the only patron who felt the same way and that their owner was not going to have everyone in the restaurant stand up, link arms and march out to join the hourly teabagger rally.

My wife and I have never been reticent people. Even in the immediate post 9/11 era where Democrats were supposed to cringe like beaten puppies whenever a right winger snarled as a sign that we didn't count because of George W Moron's illusory 92% poll approval, WE spoke our minds. The shift leaders are all very nice people. I told them that I was sorry that they were receiving all of the grief from me, but at least my big mouth never cost anyone 24 Billion dollars!

I also pointed out that my family comes to the city where they are located quite frequently and when we did, we would certainly NOT come there to be subjected to Fox "News" BS. I didn't point out that our family wouldn't eat at McDonald's under any circumstances.

Last week, a regional manager from corporate was in the restaurant and I stopped by her table and stated my case. After I joined my party, she got up, went to the shift leader, who immediately came out and changed the channel to NECN (kind of a New England version of CNN. Overall,they're not too bad).

They haven't had Fox "News" on since. YAY!

Thanks for reading about my effort to improve my little corner of the world. That's my 2 cents, and quite possibly overpriced at that!

PEACE!

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My (apparent) little victory over Fox "News"! (Original Post) MarianJack Nov 2013 OP
Good for you! kydo Nov 2013 #1
Thanx! MarianJack Nov 2013 #2
GREAT job. I have done the same thing in "business" hotels IllinoisBirdWatcher Nov 2013 #3
Thanks for sharing. MarianJack Nov 2013 #10
Never been in Maine, but sending you a hearty thank you! Whenever I hear FNN on a store TV, I fuss. freshwest Nov 2013 #4
C'mon up for a week or so in the Summer. MarianJack Nov 2013 #11
I have been complaining to a local Wendy's and Burger King to no avail liberal N proud Nov 2013 #5
Vote with your wallet! MarianJack Nov 2013 #12
You're definitely better off Maynar Nov 2013 #30
I've always wondered... blogslut Nov 2013 #6
That's a thought MarianJack Nov 2013 #13
That applies to canned music, not broadcast programming. The stations pay those fees. bigbrother05 Nov 2013 #45
Thanks blogslut Nov 2013 #53
Supah! Scuba Nov 2013 #7
Thanx! MarianJack Nov 2013 #15
Same as me at my former bank. hog Nov 2013 #8
Good for you! MarianJack Nov 2013 #16
"rules from headquarters" - does fox pay companies to do this? Serious question. bananas Nov 2013 #55
I love that you took it over the franchise owner's head. Curmudgeoness Nov 2013 #9
Thank you, Curmudgeoness. MarianJack Nov 2013 #17
Wonderful! Congratulations! (nt) question everything Nov 2013 #14
Thanks! MarianJack Nov 2013 #18
Good on you!! tavernier Nov 2013 #19
WERE they trying to kill the gentleman? MarianJack Nov 2013 #59
I quit my gym because Fox was on in front of the treadmills and elipticals constantly. Fuddnik Nov 2013 #20
Teabaggers go to the gym? pangaia Nov 2013 #40
I know the feeling Pakid Nov 2013 #21
Thank you. I did the same once at Red Lobster. They changed to sports. The Wielding Truth Nov 2013 #22
Nice job! NastyRiffraff Nov 2013 #23
Thank you for not giving up CaliGal Nov 2013 #24
McDonalds has TV sets? brooklynite Nov 2013 #25
Yeah, baby libodem Nov 2013 #26
Good work! Zambero Nov 2013 #27
Public tvs set to faux are how they claim ratings superiority xfundy Nov 2013 #28
Hotels, motels and every foreign nation in the world... Hulk Nov 2013 #29
And now their lineup has Megyn Kelly on the evening. TexasTowelie Nov 2013 #31
Good for you! charlives Nov 2013 #32
Good for you. TxDemChem Nov 2013 #33
K&R...You handled that well.......nt Enthusiast Nov 2013 #34
Why didn't you try hiding the remote? YarnAddict Nov 2013 #35
Bravo! reflection Nov 2013 #36
We got most of the waiting room TVs the VA hospital switched from Fox to CNN. marble falls Nov 2013 #37
Excellent! dgibby Nov 2013 #38
Did you ever think of taking you clients to a restaurant pangaia Nov 2013 #39
Could you visit my little corner of the world? ashling Nov 2013 #41
What a cute doggie! MarianJack Nov 2013 #60
My daughters cat Patches ashling Nov 2013 #61
Faux donated TV's a number of years ago randr Nov 2013 #42
McD is the ONE place I have had no success duhneece Nov 2013 #43
I thought it was a corporate policy since I don't think I've ever been sinkingfeeling Nov 2013 #44
k and r--kudos to you for speaking up. whenever I am someplace where faux is on, I do something niyad Nov 2013 #46
This is how things get done! Whisp Nov 2013 #47
Good job! I think it's important to fight against arthritisR_US Nov 2013 #48
"Slaveholders," like McDonalds owners, have a friend in Fox "News." ... JEFF9K Nov 2013 #49
Good for you. That's one down and many more to go. I see Fox News on all over the place totodeinhere Nov 2013 #50
Thank you! You should feel great about what you did!! AndyA Nov 2013 #51
K&R ReRe Nov 2013 #52
good for you for speaking out dlwickham Nov 2013 #54
Thanks for speaking out and persisting on it. bananas Nov 2013 #56
I've started just turning off and/or unplugging the TV when Fox is playing Taitertots Nov 2013 #57
SUPERB work, MarianJack! calimary Nov 2013 #58

IllinoisBirdWatcher

(2,315 posts)
3. GREAT job. I have done the same thing in "business" hotels
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 09:24 PM
Nov 2013

The majority of smaller business "suite" hotels with continental breakfast seem to have Faux Noise on every morning.

I have made the same expressions to managers on duty. Often I've been told, "Please switch to whichever news you like."

However I have also often been told "That's the channel the management wants to have on." When that happens I just smile and politely say, "Well the bed was nice, but I assure you that since I have a choice of hotels near the airport, neither I nor any of my company employees will ever stay here again. Please let your owners know."

Most of the hotels I frequent now have expanded cable/satellite. In the early days of cable/satellite Faux pushed hard to have its "news" included on the basic tier of channels. Even in the rooms I couldn't see MSNBC because it was on a higher tier of service they were purchasing. News always seems to be on during the morning. I do think a lot of small hotel staffs got into the habit of putting on Faux because it was what they had.

We should all continue to follow your fine example every time we walk into a hotel or restaurant playing Faux Noise.

liberal N proud

(60,361 posts)
5. I have been complaining to a local Wendy's and Burger King to no avail
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 09:31 PM
Nov 2013

A manager at BK told me he didn't have a remote to switch it.

A Wendy's employee told me they had to keep it on FOX, but wouldn't elude to why.

I told both that my business hinged on their programming choice. I have not been back to Burger King for several months.

blogslut

(38,038 posts)
6. I've always wondered...
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 09:39 PM
Nov 2013

Is there an ASCAP for businesses that play television stations? I know that if a public business plays recorded music they have to pay for an ASCAP licence. Does the same thing apply for television? If so, is Fox's license cheaper than other news stations?

 

hog

(51 posts)
8. Same as me at my former bank.
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 09:51 PM
Nov 2013

I was having a bad day when the people at my bank seemed to be having a hard time finding $5,000 in big bills to cash a check. Two TVs over the counter were on Fux News. I asked if they could change channels. No, rules from headquarters. I withdrew my checking and CD along with my mother's checking and life savings and moved to the bank down the street. Got a little better interest rate as a result. I'm sure it didn't "break the bank" but if more people did what I did, maybe we wouldn't have to put up with Fox.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
55. "rules from headquarters" - does fox pay companies to do this? Serious question.
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 07:24 PM
Nov 2013

It would be good to document where these rules come from.
Do they have a contract with fox news to keep that channel on?
In exchange for what - money, a share of advertising revenue, or what?
We could guess at the reasons, but has anyone documented it?
Are these "rules from headquarters" written down, or are they oral orders only, to establish deniability?

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
9. I love that you took it over the franchise owner's head.
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 09:53 PM
Nov 2013

I hope that he gets an earful from corporate too. I hope that they stick with a policy of listening to the customers from now on.

tavernier

(12,457 posts)
19. Good on you!!
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 11:02 PM
Nov 2013

My dear friend had a heart attack and while in ICU (and unconscious) they tuned his tv to Faux. His son came in and shouted, "are you TRYING to kill my father???"

We explained that Jon was a Democrat and Never would tolerate this propaganda in his home.

Unfortunately he did pass, but I think they got the message not to play just any garbage channels without the consent of the patient or family.

RIP, Jon. I know that the fall of Rush has a great deal to do with your work on the other side, and we appreciate it.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
20. I quit my gym because Fox was on in front of the treadmills and elipticals constantly.
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 11:31 PM
Nov 2013

The place was full of old tea-baggers anyway.

The local Moose Club was next.

Fuck Fox with Sean Hannitys fat head.

Pakid

(478 posts)
21. I know the feeling
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 11:49 PM
Nov 2013

I will only eat in a place one time if Fox is on. When I get home I make it a point to send them a nice letter telling them why I will not be back. So far only one restaurant has written back to me saying that they have change over to an all sport channel. So that one now has a lot of my business!

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
23. Nice job!
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 11:58 PM
Nov 2013

Individual victories like this may not seem like much, but they all add up. Thanks for speaking up! And thanks for your work in the mental health agency. The country needs more like you.

CaliGal

(37 posts)
24. Thank you for not giving up
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 12:05 AM
Nov 2013

I'm not sure I would have had the patience to sit there and listen to that crap. I would have never set foot inside that place if that is all they had on the TV. That is my burden to bear. I wish I had a tougher stomach to listen to that swill while I ate, but there is just now way. I can't even have it on in hearing distance without swearing at the TV.

I thank you.

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
28. Public tvs set to faux are how they claim ratings superiority
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 12:32 AM
Nov 2013

Get them to change the channel or leave. I've done it dozens of times.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
29. Hotels, motels and every foreign nation in the world...
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 01:04 AM
Nov 2013

OK, not so certain about EVERY nation in the world, but MOST. Mexico has fox-nonsense piped in on the cable networks. But we've driven across this country several times, from east to west, north to south; and nearly EVERY motel, hotel, b&b has fox-nonsense on the TV menu, and at least half the joints have fox-nonsense piping their BS at the breakfast table. It's really disgusting.

You can't find MSNBC on about half of the menus or more, and NEVER for breakfast; not that I care that much for MSNBC. I do dabble in a bit of MSNBC, but fox is really the "entertainment for lunatics" in this media frenzy. With bimbos like the three idiots in the morning, the five idiots in the afternoon, sean vannity's bat-sheet crazy seditious hour, and bill-o macho crap spewing off his chest; you have to admit, it's entertaining?!

Well, we may have "the lame-stream media", but they have a monopoly on ALL the travelers in the country and around the world. How sad is that!

TexasTowelie

(112,967 posts)
31. And now their lineup has Megyn Kelly on the evening.
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 03:23 AM
Nov 2013

All the sickening hatred wrapped up in a pretty package.

charlives

(34 posts)
32. Good for you!
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 06:15 AM
Nov 2013

I've told establishments that as long as they fly their teabag flag I won't visit. I've made banks and restaurants change fox lies too. Keep it up!

TxDemChem

(1,918 posts)
33. Good for you.
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 08:32 AM
Nov 2013

Sometimes it's all about getting the message to the right person. Your spunk and perseverance prompted change.

dgibby

(9,474 posts)
38. Excellent!
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 09:46 AM
Nov 2013

I fired a Dr. for the same reason. Figured if he was watching Faux Snooze, he was too stupid to treat me.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
39. Did you ever think of taking you clients to a restaurant
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 09:47 AM
Nov 2013

that serves healthy food? One that maybe is family owned and not a chain?

ashling

(25,771 posts)
61. My daughters cat Patches
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 02:29 PM
Nov 2013

has kidney problems. Dr. says she may have 18 months left.

We've had her since February 1999. She is about 16 years old now.

randr

(12,419 posts)
42. Faux donated TV's a number of years ago
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 10:28 AM
Nov 2013

I read an article a while back that was about Faux donating TV's to McD's and other establishments with a public areas. The article was mostly praising Murdocks generosity but I had a different view. I am convinced they use the projected numbers of possible watchers into their viewing rating numbers. It would make for an interesting research topic.

duhneece

(4,137 posts)
43. McD is the ONE place I have had no success
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 10:53 AM
Nov 2013

You've given me an option to pursue...will let you know how it turns out.
I, too, have complained many times about F 'news' always being on in our Alamogordo, NM McD's...was told the same thing as you were told...owner 'loves' F 'news'....

sinkingfeeling

(51,528 posts)
44. I thought it was a corporate policy since I don't think I've ever been
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:23 AM
Nov 2013

in a McDonald's that didn't have the TVs on Fox.

niyad

(114,245 posts)
46. k and r--kudos to you for speaking up. whenever I am someplace where faux is on, I do something
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 12:12 PM
Nov 2013

similar.

when a very dear friend was in a coma, I went to visit her, and faux was on. I told the staff that if anything were going to bring her out of that coma, listening to that bs would be it. I then told them to find anything else--it remained on a gardening channel until the end.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
47. This is how things get done!
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 12:16 PM
Nov 2013

Thanks, you have made a huge difference. Only one tv but important baby steps. We can't teleport to perfection, it's small progress that is the way it will get done and yours is the perfect example.

Bravo.

JEFF9K

(1,935 posts)
49. "Slaveholders," like McDonalds owners, have a friend in Fox "News." ...
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 12:52 PM
Nov 2013

... And I think putting the word "News" in quotes is important.

totodeinhere

(13,059 posts)
50. Good for you. That's one down and many more to go. I see Fox News on all over the place
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 03:30 PM
Nov 2013

in the community where I live. It's hard to boycott a business that has it on because the next one probably will too. I did request that they turn it off at my fitness club and they complied. But the next time I came back it was back on again and when I inquired about it I was told that other customers complained when they turned it off. I don't know whether to believe that or not.

Edit - I don't patronize McDonald's in the first place so I will never see Fox there.

AndyA

(16,993 posts)
51. Thank you! You should feel great about what you did!!
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 03:34 PM
Nov 2013

I too find it very irritating when Faux News is on, but if no one ever says anything, it's assumed people are OK with it. All it takes is a few complaints, but too few take the time to do what you did.

You are a true patriot!

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
52. K&R
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 04:05 PM
Nov 2013

You did good! You did not go along to get along anymore. Every single one of us need to do this when we find FOX in our face!

bananas

(27,509 posts)
56. Thanks for speaking out and persisting on it.
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 07:28 PM
Nov 2013

You aren't doing it just for yourself, you're making all of our lives better.
Congratulations, and thank you!

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
57. I've started just turning off and/or unplugging the TV when Fox is playing
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 08:13 PM
Nov 2013

No one has tried to stop me yet.

calimary

(81,679 posts)
58. SUPERB work, MarianJack!
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 08:57 PM
Nov 2013

Another tiny bit of the world saved! I did that at my neighborhood bank. Complained and complained again when I'd go in there and see that damn channel on their monitor. Finally, one day - CNBC! I commented on that, too - thanked them for changing the channel. They said they'd had complaints. I don't know if there were any other complaints than mine, but I DO know, it got changed. Who cares how? All I know is, I'm as Machiavellian as the next guy, and I'll always try to do what I can. ANYWHERE I am that I can, if I see Pox Noise on somewhere, I will try to get the channel changed.

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