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CMA (Country Music) Awards Just Made Fun Of Obamacare In Their Opening Number..... (Original Post) global1 Nov 2013 OP
One more reason to not listen to Country Music liberal N proud Nov 2013 #1
That ain't Country Link Speed Nov 2013 #3
I've taken to calling it "Nashville Pop" personally. Hayabusa Nov 2013 #78
only needed one reason to begin demwing Nov 2013 #53
Another reason I don't watch the CMAs. muntrv Nov 2013 #2
well, when the Dixie Chicks made their comments ProdigalJunkMail Nov 2013 #4
Weren't The Dixie Chicks Kind Of Blacklisted From Country Music After That?...... global1 Nov 2013 #5
it just seems to be the sort of double standard that ProdigalJunkMail Nov 2013 #10
+1 nt Earth_First Nov 2013 #18
Look for the documentary Shut Up and Sing xmas74 Nov 2013 #13
There is a difference, in my view. Keefer Nov 2013 #77
huh? what do you expect, it is the country music awards quinnox Nov 2013 #6
+1, n/t RKP5637 Nov 2013 #30
Steve Earle is a badass country singer and a liberal. nt delta17 Nov 2013 #36
I've never watched the CMAs. Do they even recognize alt-country folks like Steve Earle? Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #40
Not a chance. delta17 Nov 2013 #43
They didn't even recognize him when his singles were getting up to #2 on the charts back in the '80s Erose999 Nov 2013 #76
+1,000 IDemo Nov 2013 #45
Actually, County "Music" is "flies on s**t". Dawson Leery Nov 2013 #39
Sorry, i love country music but I don't watch the CMA and I don't like the politics of some of the kelliekat44 Nov 2013 #7
Darius Rucker is great, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #9
I liked his cover of "Wagon Wheel" IDemo Nov 2013 #47
Dixie Chicks did pretty much the same thing when Boosh was in office, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #8
Dixie Chicks were blackballed Kingofalldems Nov 2013 #17
Nope. Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #22
Huge difference. These people will not suffer. Kingofalldems Nov 2013 #26
Ok. Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #28
Well it isn't irrelevant since you brought them up. kcr Nov 2013 #35
I didn't initially bring them up, someone else did. Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #71
yep. still are. spanone Nov 2013 #54
Spam deleted by MIR Team Name removed Nov 2013 #11
Context? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2013 #12
The Hosts Of The Show - Brad Pasley and Carrie Underwood... global1 Nov 2013 #14
And what did they say? nt ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2013 #15
Joking about slow website. godai Nov 2013 #16
Definitely nothing to get upset about. Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #24
and they mentioned that only 6 people signed up the first day. a kennedy Nov 2013 #50
A joke about the website being slow? My God- They should be flogged! (n/t) richmwill Nov 2013 #33
Agreed. I am finding it hard to get worked up about this. razorman Nov 2013 #65
Ironically, Paisley actually SUPPORTED Obama in 2008 and has performed at the WH alp227 Nov 2013 #70
For those of us not watching or don't have cable what was the "joke"? diabeticman Nov 2013 #19
A skit about the slow website. n/t godai Nov 2013 #20
If it was just a joke about the website Bradical79 Nov 2013 #21
Is it just me... skypilot Nov 2013 #56
Justifying my decision never to listen to that whiny twangy bullshit. Aristus Nov 2013 #23
Just play it backwards tavernier Nov 2013 #49
ha ha, I get it. a kennedy Nov 2013 #51
My hubby calls it tavernier Nov 2013 #52
2 years ago, the Paisley/Underwood (the bimbo couple) Dawson Leery Nov 2013 #25
Why the hue and... JimboBillyBubbaBob Nov 2013 #27
I have been warning people about the horrors of the CMA for years now. nt ZombieHorde Nov 2013 #29
Brad Paisley is a Democrat and performed at President Obama's inauguration. n/t Tanuki Nov 2013 #31
I know they made fun of Obamacare but mainstreetonce Nov 2013 #32
Why would it need to be 'checked out with the President' first? B2G Nov 2013 #64
No need mainstreetonce Nov 2013 #67
They made fun of the website. delta17 Nov 2013 #34
No big deal. 840high Nov 2013 #37
They would never had mocked a bad policy of a Republican President. Dawson Leery Nov 2013 #38
Are you as outraged at Are_grits_groceries Nov 2013 #41
They Are Comics And Political Humorists..... global1 Nov 2013 #44
Oh please. Are_grits_groceries Nov 2013 #58
I guess you've never watched the CMAs, or the Oscars, or any other award show before onenote Nov 2013 #66
Country is conservative. They would never mock a Republican President Dawson Leery Nov 2013 #75
CMA's and country music today are both jokes. Just playing to their Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #42
Willie Nelson is a Mike Malloy fan. B Calm Nov 2013 #46
"New Country" is hard-right Jesus music sung with a Southern accent jmowreader Nov 2013 #48
No it's not. Are_grits_groceries Nov 2013 #59
Here is the skit RockaFowler Nov 2013 #55
Lordy lordy.. I may faint! Decaffeinated Nov 2013 #57
I thought it was funny Bonduel Nov 2013 #60
Country music is played, produced, and purchased by the Tea Party base. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #61
Issue an apology to the president? Puzzledtraveller Nov 2013 #62
Oh please. B2G Nov 2013 #63
Apology? Really? It's a joke. bigwillq Nov 2013 #68
Don't get mad - get even, like Charlie Pierce! bullwinkle428 Nov 2013 #69
If you didn't watch, you missed this. godai Nov 2013 #72
I've seen or heard clips of this segment at least 6 times already this morning, in fact I woke up Purveyor Nov 2013 #73
Didn't Paisely endorse Obama during the campaign? I really think Paisley should shut up and play. Erose999 Nov 2013 #74
 

Link Speed

(650 posts)
3. That ain't Country
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:19 PM
Nov 2013

Pop pablum is what it is.

Go to YouTube and check out Billie Joe Shaver - that's Country.

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)
4. well, when the Dixie Chicks made their comments
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:20 PM
Nov 2013

were you demanding that they apologize? many here were not...

sP

global1

(25,215 posts)
5. Weren't The Dixie Chicks Kind Of Blacklisted From Country Music After That?......
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:22 PM
Nov 2013

I remember there was a big controversy. I'm sure there were calls for them to apologize. Whatever happened?

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)
10. it just seems to be the sort of double standard that
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:27 PM
Nov 2013

the music industry applied to the Chicks is being applied here. you either believe in free speech or you do not. the chicks had every right to say what they thought and not have to apologize for it... and country music is now displaying it's own double standard where this matter is concerned... is DU?

sP

OnEdit : right on cue... The Chicks were the next song on the iPhone...

Keefer

(713 posts)
77. There is a difference, in my view.
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:19 PM
Nov 2013

The Dixie Chicks made fun of the president. These two made fun of a website. I don't agree with it, but there is a difference.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
6. huh? what do you expect, it is the country music awards
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:22 PM
Nov 2013

country music and right wing politics go together like flies on shit. If you are waiting for an apology, don't hold your breath!

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
40. I've never watched the CMAs. Do they even recognize alt-country folks like Steve Earle?
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:41 AM
Nov 2013

There are a lot of folks I consider on that musical wavelength, that I like alot.. Jay Farrar/Son Volt, James McMurtry...

But of course music all munges together... walk far enough in one direction in Country, you get to Rockabilly or even punk. Walk another direction and you smack into the Grateful Dead.

However, I always thought the CMAs were pretty limited in scope. To mostly the parts of Country that don't particularly appeal to me.

delta17

(283 posts)
43. Not a chance.
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 06:58 AM
Nov 2013

They barely even acknowledge people like Alan Jackson anymore. I like some of the music, but the industry is all about selling an image.

Erose999

(5,624 posts)
76. They didn't even recognize him when his singles were getting up to #2 on the charts back in the '80s
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:13 PM
Nov 2013

The CMA's are just a recording industry circle jerk. What passes for "country" now is just Nickelback with some shitty steel guitar playing looped in to it.
 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
7. Sorry, i love country music but I don't watch the CMA and I don't like the politics of some of the
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:22 PM
Nov 2013

country performers but i still love the music. I don't buy it, but i listen to it on the radio and Pandora. Clint Black and Darius Rucker are among my favorites.

 

Ranchemp.

(1,991 posts)
9. Darius Rucker is great,
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:25 PM
Nov 2013

I loved him when he was with Hootie and the Blowfish, favorite song was Let Her Cry.

 

Ranchemp.

(1,991 posts)
8. Dixie Chicks did pretty much the same thing when Boosh was in office,
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:23 PM
Nov 2013

did you demand an apology then?
Not that I disagreed with the Dixie Chicks, but.........

 

Ranchemp.

(1,991 posts)
22. Nope.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:48 PM
Nov 2013

But that's irrelevent to this conversation.
Our side will demand an apology, just like back then the RW demanded an apology.\
Round and round it goes, where it stops, nobody knows.

kcr

(15,313 posts)
35. Well it isn't irrelevant since you brought them up.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:55 PM
Nov 2013

The fact they were blackballed makes it quite a bit different. If they're going to blackball the Dixie Chicks I think it makes them hypocrites.

Response to global1 (Original post)

global1

(25,215 posts)
14. The Hosts Of The Show - Brad Pasley and Carrie Underwood...
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:36 PM
Nov 2013

I'm sure before long a clip will be posted on You Tube or it will be featured on Fox, CNN and MSNBC.

 

Ranchemp.

(1,991 posts)
24. Definitely nothing to get upset about.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:50 PM
Nov 2013

Especially since it's true, the website was/is slow, at least the last time I checked it was.

It was all done in good humor.

razorman

(1,644 posts)
65. Agreed. I am finding it hard to get worked up about this.
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 11:29 AM
Nov 2013

As far as it being in poor taste, or apologies being owed, get a grip. It was actually pretty mild teasing; making fun of a government program. As far as I could see, they didn't get personal toward President Obama, or racist or really offensive, so I won't let this upset me. I do not and will not own any Brad Paisley or Carrie Underwood music. But neither do I own any Dixie Chicks stuff. But, that is simply because I am not a fan of what passes as "country" music these days. It pretty much degenerated into "pop lite" decades ago.
I am sure that many of my friends here on DU who are angry about this spoof were happy when one of the Dixie Chicks insulted President Bush. I suppose it depends on whose ox is being gored.
Making fun of politicians and their work is one of the rights we enjoy as Americans. Also, life is too short to spend it pissed off.

alp227

(31,994 posts)
70. Ironically, Paisley actually SUPPORTED Obama in 2008 and has performed at the WH
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:07 PM
Nov 2013

But he's regressed, with that crappy "Accidental Racist" song with LL Cool J and now this. In 2009 Paisley recorded the song "Welcome to the Future" as a tribute to the Obama 2008 campaign.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
21. If it was just a joke about the website
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:46 PM
Nov 2013

like someone above me stated, then I don't see what there is to apologize about.

skypilot

(8,851 posts)
56. Is it just me...
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 10:29 AM
Nov 2013

...or does there seem to be some kind of country music award show on TV every few months?

Aristus

(66,250 posts)
23. Justifying my decision never to listen to that whiny twangy bullshit.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:49 PM
Nov 2013

'Real American music', my ass...

Give me jazz and rock and roll anyday...



tavernier

(12,363 posts)
49. Just play it backwards
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 08:20 AM
Nov 2013

Your wife will return, your dog will live, and you'll get your job back. (Sorry... old joke)

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
25. 2 years ago, the Paisley/Underwood (the bimbo couple)
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:51 PM
Nov 2013

brought racist Hank Jr. on stage for a standing ovation from the country klan. The same bastards condemned and ended the Dixie Chicks career for saying much less. So yes, the country "music" establishment can drop dead.

mainstreetonce

(4,178 posts)
32. I know they made fun of Obamacare but
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:10 PM
Nov 2013

Brad Paisley who did it was a big Obama supporter during the election. I would not be surprised if he checked it out with the President first.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
64. Why would it need to be 'checked out with the President' first?
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 11:15 AM
Nov 2013

Are we living in a dicatorship?

Sometimes I'm shocked by what I read.

delta17

(283 posts)
34. They made fun of the website.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:52 PM
Nov 2013

It wasn't that big a deal. I don't think this is going to be anywhere near the top of the President's list of concerns. This was poking fun, not the vicious hatred that Hank Jr. spews.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
38. They would never had mocked a bad policy of a Republican President.
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:19 AM
Nov 2013

Country "musicians" would do a favor if they choked on knives.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
41. Are you as outraged at
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 03:09 AM
Nov 2013

Kimmel, Leno, Stewart, Colbert, Conan, and Fallon?
They have all made jokes about Obamacare and on more than one night. Are you demanding that they apologize to President Obama?

global1

(25,215 posts)
44. They Are Comics And Political Humorists.....
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 07:31 AM
Nov 2013

they do political humor all the time and are pretty much equal opportunity cut-ups. You should also include Letterman and Ferguson in this group and SNL. Political humor has been part of their job. I kind of always expect this kind of humor from this group.

I just did not expect - when I sat down to watch the Country Music Awards show that the hosts of the program - both country singers themselves and not comics - would target the President and ACA (aka Obamacare) on a show broadcasting (I'm sure) to a wide audience of Americans - about honoring their own in country music. It was out of place and disrespectful. It was a political statement of sorts that appeared to me to be meant to send a negative message (albeit subliminal). I did not think it was funny. It was biting and hurtful.

I read comments above in this thread about the Dixie Chicks comments about the war and G.W.Bush. I learned later from Wikipedia that those comments weren't made on the CMA awards show - but at a concert in London.

Here's the passage from Wikipedia that I read:

During a London concert ten days before the 2003 invasion of Iraq, lead vocalist Maines said, "we don't want this war, this violence, and we're ashamed that the President of the United States [George W. Bush] is from Texas".[1] The positive reaction to this statement from the British audience contrasted with the boycotts that ensued in the U.S., where the band was assaulted by talk-show conservatives,[2] while their albums were discarded in public protest.

My beef is that this was so-called misplace humor not fitting for a country music awards show.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
58. Oh please.
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 10:42 AM
Nov 2013

Do you watch other awards shows? They make fun of everything. Are you going to be outraged at them too??

And I don't need lectures from you about the Dixie Chicks. I watched country music videos when they were first starting. They caught my eye with their first song and I kept up with them ever since. I have supported them through the years.

I watched the skit. It was pretty benign as far as making fun goes. My beef was that it wasn't a very good skit. Neither Brad nor Carrie carried it off well and they are pros on stage. I don't think they were enamored of it but they gave it a go. It looked like somebody's half-assed idea that was thrown together and thrown in at the last minute.

As far as what is fitting for a country music awards show, I didn't know there were rules. They have had a wide variety of presentations on them. I don't like all of them, but that goes for any awards show.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
42. CMA's and country music today are both jokes. Just playing to their
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 03:25 AM
Nov 2013

Audience which I am sure skews white, southern, and GOP.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
59. No it's not.
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 11:00 AM
Nov 2013

If you listen to certain stations with a religious bent, you will hear Jesus songs. They are few and far between in new country.
The only song I have heard that was very religious that was played on country stations was 'Change' by Rascal Flatts. I'm sure there are others, but cheatin' songs and tornado songs have them outnumbered. There will be mentions of God or Jesus in songs, but that's in passing.

New country is pop music with a twang. Most of it is by 'cute country' boys many of whom will disappear after one hit. A lot of what I hear is dreck, but there are good songs and artists among the crap.

If you think it's all hard-right Jesus music then you need to listen to the Pistol Annies.

 

Bonduel

(96 posts)
60. I thought it was funny
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 11:08 AM
Nov 2013

What they were poking fun at is basically true. The website is slow, it is down a lot, and it is very frustrating to work with. I think we need to get thicker skin and learn to laugh at ourselves a bit.

By the way, I do love country and I still listen to the Dixie Chicks.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
61. Country music is played, produced, and purchased by the Tea Party base.
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 11:09 AM
Nov 2013

So, this is not surprising, any more than finding hip-hop stars talking trash about Republicans.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
63. Oh please.
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 11:12 AM
Nov 2013

They were poking fun at the website, not Obama himself. I saw some of the outraged tweets. Some people need to grow a thicker skin.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
68. Apology? Really? It's a joke.
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:03 PM
Nov 2013

It might not have been funny but jokes are made about politicians and policies all the time.

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
73. I've seen or heard clips of this segment at least 6 times already this morning, in fact I woke up
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:51 PM
Nov 2013

to the "Obamacare by morning" skit.

Erose999

(5,624 posts)
74. Didn't Paisely endorse Obama during the campaign? I really think Paisley should shut up and play.
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:56 PM
Nov 2013

Note that I didn't say "sing". His songwriting is terrible. He's a good guitar player, thats about it.
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