Taxpayers pay for women's contraceptives?

[abelenkpe]

Can someone please help me understand? How is the government mandating that contraceptives be included in health care plans offered to women mean that taxpayers are paying for women to have sex? I still pay for healthcare. That money comes out of my paycheck every week. If I go to the doctor I pay for the visit, pay when I pick up my prescription. I don't get it....

[Turbineguy]

1. You have touched upon

the fatal flaw of the argument. Other policy holders (some of whom may be taxpayers) pay. Now for me, paying a a lot less in premiums is much easier than being pregnant, but that's just the way I see things, others may see them differently. Especially if they are morons who listen to Rush Limbaugh.

The way to get around that fatal flaw is to yell and call women terrible names.

[TheMastersNemesis]

2. Straw dog Argument

That argument is just a straw dog argument. Everyone pays for healthcare at one level or another. Women who pay for insurance pay for healthcare as well. All Obama is saying is that health care coverage has to include contraception for women just like viagra is paid for for men.

There are coverages in insurance the people do not use, but they are there. A person does not have to use it. But they have it as an option.

The religious groups simply do not want reproductive care available at all and at any level. They object even if a woman wanted to pay for it with her own money. The objection is about outlawing reproductive contraception altogether. That part is not being told.

[madokie]

6. The way I see it is its a way to control the lady folk

Keep 'm barefoot and pregnant that way they won't stray, no one will want them, sex wise. Thats what they think, not me. Contrary to the ads all over the teevee in the evening hours I don't really think that that many men take boner pills. I know my doc, and I'm VA btw, pushes them off on me and I just let them pile up, might need'm one of these days, never can tell. That thing might do a flip flop on me any day, old as I am and all.

[TreasonousBastard]

3. I think it's all bullshit, and I don't care if...

women get contraceptive pills through their health coverage, or even if my taxes pay for it. And they should definitely have coverage if the pills are a a hormone treatment for a medical condition.

But, why only female contraception, and why only some types? Does medical coverage pay for IUD's, condoms, tube tying, male snippage or any other sort of contraception? Should it? If I don't want to father a child, should I have the same rights, including paid condoms, as a woman who doesn't want to give birth to one? BTW, should condoms be considered preventive medicine, considering their usefulness in preventing STDs, and thereby be covered?

Has anyone made even the slightest attempt to logically work this out how and why some contraception may be covered and others not? Or is the whole thing just more political maneuvering and horseshit to rouse some unidentified rabble.

[madokie]

7. You hit the nail square on the head

Its a wedge issue the puklicons use to rouse the rabble.

[tanyev]

4. Easy. The right wing propaganda machine responds to truthiness, not actual truth.

[FLyellowdog]

5. Thank you, thank you, thank you!

I got into a TERRIBLE argument with three of my best friends about this Saturday night...one is a Tea Partier, one is a strong Democrat, and one is someone who supports whatever the handsomest man in the room supports. Go figure.

My beginning statement was "I think insurance companies should pay for contraception" and that Limbaugh's statements about Fluke were despicable.

From that we went to all three declaring that we shouldn't have to pay to anyone's birth control. I said we we're, the insurance companies were simply going to be required to offer it to all who wanted it. Before I knew what had hit me, the discussion had somehow morphed into a heated discussion about stopping welfare!!!!!!!

Tea Partier = The Fluke incident was a setup by Pelosi. All welfare women are just having babies to get money for drugs/alcohol. He can prove because he's seen those big assed women dragging 3 and 4 kids behind them at the welfare office.
Wishy Washy = Helping "these" people on welfare means we will have to help their offspring for the rest of their lives. Her solution is to do away with all welfare including healthcare. (She also asked "Do you like Pelosi?&quot When I asked her who would pay for the children's immunizations, she said let them go without if the parents didn't have the money.
Democrat (?) = If people can't afford to take care of their own children, they should be sterialized by the government.

They all hounded me on the fact that these welfare payouts have to be stopped because our country is going down the crapper and our grandchildren will face the lowest standard of living this country has ever seen. "If people need help, let them get a job".

They wouldn't listen to any reason or facts (with resources). I was left infuriated and insulted. And disappointed

What's wrong with these people?

[frazzled]

8. Through the National Healthcare, doncha know

Did you miss it that we now have a single-payer national health system, paid for exclusively through our taxes?

Oh, I forgot. I only dreamt that. Until then, we are all paying for our insurance plans. Though those of us who get our healthcare through work are indirectly subsidized by the huge tax breaks the government gives to employers; and in 2014, those who purchase their own plans will be subsidized on a sliding scale, depending on income, up to 400% of poverty.

[gratuitous]

9. It's called stove-piping

"I pay insurance premiums. Insurance covers birth control pills. Therefore, my premium is paying for birth control pills." It's a funny sort of logic that applies on an as-needed basis.