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http://www.mediaite.com/online/teacher-suspended-for-racist-rant-against-ghetto-trick-or-treaters/The teacher followed up that post with another message, clarifying that he welcomes people who come from dangerous neighborhoods to mine, so their children can safely trick or treat. However, he warned, bad behavior will not be tolerated.
Your [sic] are a CRIMINAL and are not welcome in my neighborhood and you should not be welcome in your own! he wrote. THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE COME TO MINE TO TRICK OR TREAT. Do not treat my neighborhood like you do your own. I HAVE THE RIGHT NOT TO BE LIKE YOU.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)This is white privilege. If a white teenager pees on a telephone pole, the problem is that specific white teenager. But if an African American teenager pees on a telephone pole, it is viewed as an indication of the behavior of all African Americans.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)right out in front of someone's house is going to get a reaction, red yellow black or white.
If that offends someone's racial sensibilities, so be it. Whipping out your junk and peeing in open view of people is going to cause problems, which is why there are public indecency laws. Not to mention it's a health hazard.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)White people pee on things too. If a white person did it he'd complain about that specific white person. He wouldn't rant about how poorly white people behave as a group. But when a person of color does it, people rant about the whole group.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)isn't acceptable behavior, end of story.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)Of course it isn't acceptable behavior. BUT THAT DOESN'T EXCUSE HIS RACIST RANT. And the reason why it turned into a rant about all black people instead of a rant about one teenager is racism.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)where someone pissed on his lawn and he got upset about it because he exposed himself, peed all over the place and caused a potential health hazard.
I guess I'm just racist against bacteria when human beings run around peeing where they shouldn't be peeing and exposing themselves.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)because one peed on your yard, then you are racist against black people, not bacteria.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)If that took place, then he IS a nasty bigot. I guess I need to click on the link before responding.
ETA: I see where he used that. No wonder he got suspended, and it was justified.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)Secondly, I don't see any proof anything like that occurred. Who did it? When and where? Or is this a Zimmerman thing? He just thought he saw a kid from the ghetto when it was a black kid from down the street wearing a hoodie. And what he thought was a penis was a can of Arizona Iced Tea being poured out?
Next thing you know this asshole teacher is on the 'net with a racist rant, words all blacked out, and people actually believe black kids from the ghetto just LOVE to go to white neighborhoods and pull out their penises in front of sweet little white kids and piss on your lawn. But you just couldn't IMAGINE what those blacked-out words were.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)I'm sorry.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)I admit it, and I was wrong, so I'm sorry . I let my own experiences with people peeing in public cloud my judgment and posts.
antigone382
(3,682 posts)Why does this person bring the race of the offender into it? The offender is behaving in the fashion of a shit-stain, but gratuitously jumping to racial stereotypes and slurs is basically like saying that all people of the offender's race or social status are also shit-stains who are somehow complicit in his decision to be a shit-stain.
The teacher could just as easily have condemned the behavior without throwing in racial slurs. It isn't about how those racial slurs hurt the one guy who did actually piss on a telephone pole. It's about how they hurt all the people who didn't. I've seen plenty of white guys pee in places they shouldn't and my reaction to their personally being disgusting had nothing to do with their race.
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antigone382
(3,682 posts)I see where you didn't realize he used racial slurs at first.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Knee jerk reaction to people peeing in public. I have no defense for being an asshole.
antigone382
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JI7
(89,290 posts)"racial sensibilities".
and this piece of shit is supposed to be a teacher. he should be fired, not just suspended.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)I had a knee-jerk reaction to people peeing in public without acknowledging how gross it is to do so. Yes, I agree, he should be fired.
ret5hd
(20,573 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)that after a football game, when much beer has been consumed, that a redneck in the South didn't unzip his pants, and piss off the porch trying to douse as much of the bushes as he could?
You *really* don't believe that happened?
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)there is no such thing as a male, after much beer and a football game, pissing as far as he possibly can off of a porch.
Thank heavens it wasn't a member of my family doing it and offending the fucking neighborhood, though I'm sure they have seen *that* family member of theirs doing it at some point.
It's disgusting, and doing it where you won't be seen is one thing (and acceptable), but doing it where everybody can see it is entirely another and icky. I don't want to see you piss. I'm not proud of you for having a good stream of urine all over the bushes.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)is and should be illegal. It is a health hazard, and encourages others to drop their pants and do the same. If you are looking for sympathy about why someone wants to call the police when people drop their drawers in full view and do their business, don't look at me because I have none. There is a reason why toilets include doors so that people don't have to watch you do the things we all have to do, and there are sinks so you can wash your hands afterwards.
antigone382
(3,682 posts)It's about all the people who once again have their entire ethnic heritage dragged through the mud and thrown in their faces because one guy who happens to have the same skin tone as they do chose to act like a disgusting ass.
Pissing on peoples' lawns is never, NEVER acceptable (well, unless you're talking about some of my hippie friends who encourage the practice). Using racial stereotypes is also never, NEVER acceptable. You can't just run around defaming and stereotyping entire races because one kid pisses you off.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)had a party a few nights ago, and one of the white guests unzipped his pants and pissed right off of the porch in full view. I don't know if he could see me, because I was on the porch with the lights out, but it was fucking disgusting and the light illuminated him peeing in the bushes. It was nasty.
antigone382
(3,682 posts)I live in the woods so guys go out to pee on trees all the time, but there's some space and distance there, so it isn't like you're gonna run up on that tree before rain washes it away (or before some other critter pisses on it anyway). My only point is that if we don't see a white guy pissing in an inappropriate location as an example of why his race sucks, we shouldn't see a black guy doing the same thing as an example.
I see downthread that you didn't realize the tweet used ethnic slurs, so now I understand. Peace.
FSogol
(45,599 posts)bluestate10
(10,942 posts)Orrex
(63,297 posts)It's a health hazard, after all.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)and was ugly. I commented before clicking on the link. In my defense, my white neighbor unzipped his pants and pissed off the back porch a few nights ago, and I was disgusted. That's where I was coming from.
markpkessinger
(8,409 posts). . . but to say it constitutes a "health hazard" is rather a stretch. As Orrex points out above, pets (not to mention wild animals) routinely urinate all over the place, yet there has never been, to my knowledge, any serious threat posed to human health. I'm not in any way defending the practice -- I am just disputing an overblown claim.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)I just had a moment there where I remembered my disgust at watching a beer drenched male pee off the back porch of my neighbor's house like it was the most normal thing in the world. Ick.
politicat
(9,808 posts)And hanta is a real danger in the southwest.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)This teacher is claiming all black men piss in his front yard. Not one person who actually did so.
I'm having trouble believing you are unable to understand the difference, even after it's been pointed out to you multiple times.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)and apologized for not clicking on the link before having a knee-jerk response. Feel free to kick me in the head when I have already submitted that I was wrong, but it isn't going to make you more righteous for doing so.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)That's in the quote in the OP.
And you spent a whole lot of the thread having this pointed out to you, and continuing to rail against an individual peeing. Then the magic N word showed up and you decided he was a racist....but still appear to have missed that he was complaining about all black men even without the magic N word.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)I don't know what your goal is here. It certainly isn't anything productive for either of us.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)it was sorely needed.
demwing
(16,916 posts)The poster explained his error and apologized many times. Give it a freaking rest...
jeff47
(26,549 posts)The error was missing that the OP itself is talking about all black people. The poster decided the teacher was racist when the underlying article included "the N word". The poster still hasn't figured out that the OP is racist, even without "the N word".
Instead, they attacked a bunch of people as supporters of public urination, instead of actually reading the posts.
demwing
(16,916 posts)You got an apology. If that's not good enough for you then the perceived density of the poster is the very least of your challenges.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)By calling the poster dense?
Yeah...that always works
jeff47
(26,549 posts)When post after post after post can't get past the horrific specter of public urination, it is abundantly clear that being nice about it isn't going to get through.
demwing
(16,916 posts)Like the multple posts your target submitted, apologizing for the error?
Post after Post, which you refused to acknowledge?
Like that?
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)take his story at face value...
It's not like he couldn't pull something out of his ass to justify his rant...It's an age-old (and dangerous) trick...
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)Last edited Wed Oct 30, 2013, 10:01 AM - Edit history (1)
Racist Asshat Teacher of The Year.
Makes me cringe to think that this guy is teaching kids.
get the red out
(13,468 posts)But obviously stupid in putting something like that up on Facebook and not realizing how he could be jeopardizing his career.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)the kids had creative homemade costumes. one little dude was dressed as a fork, and he was tinfoiled up from head to toe.
parents might have been drinking but they weren't causing any trouble or pissing on stuff.
yawn on that rant.
demwing
(16,916 posts)How did you know they were from "the ghetto" ?
dionysus
(26,467 posts)high rise projects within a few miles from the house. it's common practice for people who live in , let's say, unsavory neighborhoods, to take their kids trick or treating in a safer place. so call it a very educated guess.
i'm not disparaging anybody, there's quite a few rough areas here; it would be insane to take a little kid out at night in those parts of the city. I think it's a smart move on the parents part. I don't give a shit if they're brown bagging it on the sidewalk while the kids to up to the houses.