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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 05:17 PM Oct 2013

After JFK Conference, when I got home, I felt like RFK.

Heartbroken: I returned to Detroit to discover my best friend had died on the Wednesday I drove to Pittsburgh. It was a shock followed by a hammer blow -- the sudden, unexpected and complete loss of a most trusted friend who truly was my brother in work and in spirit.

My wife and friends did not want to tell me while I was there. Even my best friend's wife, whom I consider a sister, told my wife she wanted me to enjoy the once-in-a-lifetime experience. That's what my friend would have wanted, too.

A journalist, reporter and writer of the Old School, he was the one colleague with whom I most wanted to share what I learned at Duquesne. I got the tragic word upon my return home at 10:30 p.m. Saturday. When I saw my friend and her children at the service yesterday, Sunday, I cried. I'm still crying, typing these words.

The minute before I got the news, I felt like I was on top of the world. I had just returned from hearing many of the great people from whom I've learned over the past 50 years. Some of the younger authors and presenters knew about DU, a couple at least who said they'd learned and benefitted from DU. Regardless of names or percentages, we were there, learning and sharing information.

What I want to first report: DUers we aren't wasting our time following research, news, and analysis pertaining to the assassination of President Kennedy. In those three days, I learned more in many college courses I’ve taken on history or science. I couldn’t wait to share what I learned with my family and friends on DU and in life.

So, after being gone four days, I got home and greeted my family, whom I missed dearly. I sat down and took a bite to eat and asked why everyone was sad to see me. My wife told me my that we had lost a friend. His name was the first that came to mind, considering his job involved a lot of travel. My friend had passed away on Wednesday, perhaps while I was driving up to the conference.

No one knew what happened until his daughter came home from school and found him. He was a great man. Tops in every way. A family man. A patriot. A man of integrity. He was only 60. The blow will never leave my heart or anyone blessed to be part of his family, nor from the hearts and minds of those who knew him or crossed paths with him. He was that great a human being.

When I get my stuff together, I promise to share exactly the news and information from the JFK Assassination and what We the People can do to restore Justice in the JFK case. Of course it has to do with fair elections, stopping Wars without End for power and profit, and end Police State America. Hint: All it takes is You.

I will tell you why I felt like RFK upon my return from Pittsburgh: The loss of a brother leaves a void that cannot be filled.

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After JFK Conference, when I got home, I felt like RFK. (Original Post) Octafish Oct 2013 OP
Sorry for the loss of your close friend. zappaman Oct 2013 #1
Peace and my sympathy. RagAss Oct 2013 #2
my sincere condolences steve2470 Oct 2013 #3
I'm so alsame Oct 2013 #4
My best friend and business partner died almost exactly a year ago. panader0 Oct 2013 #5
My best to you and his family. nm rhett o rick Oct 2013 #6
I am so sorry for your loss, Octafish! Cooley Hurd Oct 2013 #7
I'm so sorry, Octafish. Blue_In_AK Oct 2013 #8
I am so sorry you lost your friend. Take care of yourself. Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #9
Condolances Octafish G_j Oct 2013 #10
I am so sorry for your loss and the pain you are feeling rbrnmw Oct 2013 #11
My sincerest condolences my friend nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #12
Just. A. Hug. Ninga Oct 2013 #13
i am truly sorry, Octafish. nashville_brook Oct 2013 #14
I'm so, so sorry. deurbano Oct 2013 #15
Oh, Octafish, I am so very sorry to read of the loss of your friend. How bittersweet your last Mnemosyne Oct 2013 #16
Condolences leftstreet Oct 2013 #17
My sympathy on the loss of your good friend. --nt CrispyQ Oct 2013 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Bolo Boffin Oct 2013 #19
What's wrong with you? boston bean Oct 2013 #21
I hit reply after only reading the title of the post. Bolo Boffin Oct 2013 #22
Please accept my sympathy. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #20
Sorry for your loss Octafish. Little Star Oct 2013 #23
My condolences, Octafish. A great friend is priceless. Peace to him & you & his family. DirkGently Oct 2013 #24
My heartfelt sympathies to you, and to your friend's family. scarletwoman Oct 2013 #25
I am sorry my friend, losing a loved one is very hard. Rex Oct 2013 #26
You're in my heart, Octafish. blm Oct 2013 #27
I am so, sorry. true good friends are a treasure riverbendviewgal Oct 2013 #28
Peace and Love to you Octa HangOnKids Oct 2013 #29
I am so sorry, my friend! I know what it is to lose a friend! LongTomH Oct 2013 #30
Condolences cantbeserious Oct 2013 #31
I'm so sorry. Autumn Oct 2013 #32
Heartfelt Condolences Octafish 2banon Oct 2013 #33
I'm so sorry Oilwellian Oct 2013 #34
very sorry for your loss JI7 Oct 2013 #35
(((((((Octafish)))))))... TeeYiYi Oct 2013 #36
I am so sorry, Octafish: PCIntern Oct 2013 #37
Gosh I feel your pain from here malaise Oct 2013 #38
Sorry for your loss, Octafish nt octoberlib Oct 2013 #39
My condolences 90-percent Oct 2013 #40
My condolences my friend Trailrider1951 Oct 2013 #49
Thank you 90-percent Oct 2013 #51
I am so sorry to hear about the loss of your wife, 90-percent. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #57
So sorry for your losses Jim progressoid Oct 2013 #61
That is a beautiful, poignant comment. I am so sorry about the loss of your sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #73
Sorry to hear of your friend's passing InkAddict Oct 2013 #41
We are so very sorry to hear about the loss of this dear friend. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #42
Very sorry to hear of your friend's passing. I learned LibDemAlways Oct 2013 #43
I'd bet your family would had thought to do the same for him. Festivito Oct 2013 #44
(((((((Octafish))))))) WillyT Oct 2013 #45
My deepest sympathies. riderinthestorm Oct 2013 #46
Octafish, I am so sorry for your loss Trailrider1951 Oct 2013 #47
Shit!............ Hotler Oct 2013 #48
Very sorry for your loss. Karmadillo Oct 2013 #50
I'm so sorry for your loss. SalviaBlue Oct 2013 #52
... spanone Oct 2013 #53
Condolences and RIP gopiscrap Oct 2013 #54
It's so horrible to lose someone so close unexpectedly. My sincere Auntie Bush Oct 2013 #55
I am sorry, Octafish. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #56
So sorry to read this sad news, Octafish Samantha Oct 2013 #58
Sorry, Octafish. Hang in there... villager Oct 2013 #59
I'm sorry about the loss of your friend, Octafish. pacalo Oct 2013 #60
I'm so sorry for your loss. cui bono Oct 2013 #62
Sorry for your loss. n/t mattclearing Oct 2013 #63
Such a painful homecoming. It was thoughtful of your loved ones Judi Lynn Oct 2013 #64
I lost my best friend years ago and it still hurts. My B Calm Oct 2013 #65
... progressoid Oct 2013 #66
Sorry man :( whatchamacallit Oct 2013 #67
So sorry for your loss, Octafish. AmBlue Oct 2013 #68
My deepest condolences to you and yours, Octafish. myrna minx Oct 2013 #69
Damn dude, seems to be a price for everything hootinholler Oct 2013 #70
Heartbreaking, indeed. My deepest sympathies to you, mountain grammy Oct 2013 #71
Sorry for your loss. Thanks for attending from those of us who couldn't attend. rwsanders Oct 2013 #72
Kick, Rec and hugs NRaleighLiberal Oct 2013 #74
My deepest condolences on the loss of your friend, Octafish. OnyxCollie Oct 2013 #75
Sorry for your loss, my friend.. Ghost in the Machine Oct 2013 #76
So Sorry to hear this... KoKo Oct 2013 #77
My sympathy on the loss of your friend and to everyone who knew and loved him livetohike Oct 2013 #78
So sorry to hear of the loss of your friend. woodsprite Oct 2013 #79
I'm sorry for your loss. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #80
My deepest sympathy Octafish. CanSocDem Oct 2013 #81
my condolences, Octafish noiretextatique Oct 2013 #82
So sorry for your loss Octafish. nt raouldukelives Oct 2013 #83
In sympathy... bobthedrummer Oct 2013 #84
So sorry for your loss, Octafish... AzDar Oct 2013 #85
Hey, DU! Octafish Oct 2013 #86
I am so sorry to hear about your loss octafish. avaistheone1 Oct 2013 #87
I'm sorry for your loss, Octa. Mc Mike Nov 2013 #88
Condolences Octa ... ucrdem Jan 2014 #89
Thank you, ucrdem. Happy New Year to You and Yours! Octafish Jan 2014 #90
Seems like a really great guy. ucrdem Jan 2014 #91

panader0

(25,816 posts)
5. My best friend and business partner died almost exactly a year ago.
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 05:32 PM
Oct 2013

I posted about it here, saying Obama lost a vote today. I miss him every day. Friends for 42 years.
I can empathize. Thanks for your tireless efforts and important research.

G_j

(40,367 posts)
10. Condolances Octafish
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 05:44 PM
Oct 2013

my heart goes out to you. Thank you for sharing this personal story. Even in cyberspace we are merely human. Take care. Looking forward to what you gleaned from the conference.

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
16. Oh, Octafish, I am so very sorry to read of the loss of your friend. How bittersweet your last
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 05:53 PM
Oct 2013

few days must have been.


Response to Octafish (Original post)

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
22. I hit reply after only reading the title of the post.
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 06:19 PM
Oct 2013

The response was completely out of place.

Octafish, I'm sorry for the loss of your friend and apologize for bringing another discussion into this thread.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
25. My heartfelt sympathies to you, and to your friend's family.
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 06:36 PM
Oct 2013

Take care of yourself as you grieve. May the strength of the friendship you shared bring some measure of comfort, and may you find your way to peace.

riverbendviewgal

(4,252 posts)
28. I am so, sorry. true good friends are a treasure
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 06:42 PM
Oct 2013

It is shocking when it happens so sudden. I hope you find peace and can remember the joy you share d with your friend.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
30. I am so sorry, my friend! I know what it is to lose a friend!
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 07:00 PM
Oct 2013

I hope you'll be able to carry on in his name.

I'll look forward to hearing about your experiences at the conference and, most importantly, your own insights. I hope this will be a series.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
33. Heartfelt Condolences Octafish
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 07:22 PM
Oct 2013

I'm so very sorry to be reading of your tragic loss. I'm glad you were jazzed about the conference, and though I'm very interested in all that you want to share, first you need to take all the time you need for grieving and decompressing.

These mysteries have been waiting for years to be solved, it can wait for another day.. take care of yourself and your fam..

PCIntern

(25,541 posts)
37. I am so sorry, Octafish:
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 07:29 PM
Oct 2013

you went to the conference to learn and to continue to deal with the losses we began to suffer fifty years ago and, Alas! you suffered even more loss. My sympathies to you and to his family.

PC

malaise

(268,969 posts)
38. Gosh I feel your pain from here
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 07:30 PM
Oct 2013

Still your folks did the right thing. Cry my brother - it's cathartic and your friend deserves your tears.

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
40. My condolences
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 07:39 PM
Oct 2013

A sudden unexpected loss is the worst. There are so many sad people in his orbit because he was a good man. Family friends and colleagues will miss him for the rest of their lives, as is natural when the loss is so big.

I found out only recently Thom Hartmann is a JFK assassination expert - saw him on a history/military channel show and learned a lot of new stuff.

Do you have any opinion on Jesse Ventura's JFK Assassination book? I like Jesse, even though he's not a big hit here on DU.

I lost my wife 17 days ago, after her year long battle with cancer. We made the most of our remaining time together and we both knew the clock was ticking. I am happier it happened this way. I was with her 24/7 in the last months of her life, putting everything else on hold. She died next to me in bed and she did not suffer. She was comfortable with her own death since I met her and I hope it's meeting her expectations.

My sister lost her husband suddenly in 1993 and the sadness and regrets are with me every day. Bill married Pat in 1964, when I was ten, and he was my big brother that helped me with my life for decades. There are so many regrets with a sudden death. Why didn't I call more? Why did I take him being there for granted? How can I get through my life without him?

I guess the best way to honor and remember them is to get my life back on the ball. I am not on top of my game right now and haven't been for a long time.

Octafish - it is clear you will honor your friend by pushing your journalism to heights you never thought possible. Your friend would want you to do that. Or just be happy. All our departed loved ones would certainly want that for us all.

-jim

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
57. I am so sorry to hear about the loss of your wife, 90-percent.
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 09:47 PM
Oct 2013

Your comments about your brother-in-law tugged at me...

...when my husband died suddenly, most of those who eulogized him at the service talked of how they wished they had spent more time with them. In the end, I got up and said,"He wanted to see you too, he wished he had stopped by more often, he thought about you all the time..." and that is what gets us through. We do think of each other.

I have to believe that. I hope you do too. Take really good care of yourself, okay? Widowhood sucks, whether we're prepared for it or not.

InkAddict

(3,387 posts)
41. Sorry to hear of your friend's passing
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 07:45 PM
Oct 2013

I hope your memories of the times you shared with your precious friend and his family will soon bring smiles rather than tears. I look forward to hearing of the conference whenever you're ready.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
42. We are so very sorry to hear about the loss of this dear friend.
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 07:48 PM
Oct 2013

Take care, Octafish, and thank you for letting us know.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
43. Very sorry to hear of your friend's passing. I learned
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 07:51 PM
Oct 2013

my dad had died while I was on a cruise ship, so I know the shock of an unexpected loss at an especially inopportune moment. My thoughts are very much with you and your friend's family.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
44. I'd bet your family would had thought to do the same for him.
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 07:53 PM
Oct 2013

We've still a long journey ahead. You both knew that.

Hotler

(11,420 posts)
48. Shit!............
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 08:25 PM
Oct 2013
For what it is worth I am here for you.
Heart ache is the most painful.
Peace my friend.
Hot.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
55. It's so horrible to lose someone so close unexpectedly. My sincere
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 09:39 PM
Oct 2013

condolences. You write beautifully and I'm looking forward to hearing all about your experience regarding JFK. Get plenty of sleep tonight.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
58. So sorry to read this sad news, Octafish
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 09:51 PM
Oct 2013

I hope you take all the time you need to properly grieve for your friend. I learned a long time ago the hard way this is very important. Peace be with you during this difficult time.

Sam

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
59. Sorry, Octafish. Hang in there...
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 10:21 PM
Oct 2013

The good work still calls you, in the midst of such sadness. Be well.

Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
64. Such a painful homecoming. It was thoughtful of your loved ones
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 05:52 AM
Oct 2013

to wait until you were really home to give you the sad news.

You know, and so many others know you have been so right to follow the search for the truth, and it takes courage, and steadfastness of purpose.

You were lucky to know such a worthy human being. There are not so many people like that among us, unfortunately. They are exceptionally needed and good for the human race.

We're with you in spirit, and we look forward to the time in your future this loss won't be so searing, so raw, and when you discover it seems the friendship does linger, never really does go away.

Best wishes, Octafish. He was lucky to have you as a friend, as well.

AmBlue

(3,110 posts)
68. So sorry for your loss, Octafish.
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 10:08 AM
Oct 2013

When you're feeling up to it, lots of us here are looking forward to hearing about your conference.

mountain grammy

(26,620 posts)
71. Heartbreaking, indeed. My deepest sympathies to you,
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 12:15 PM
Oct 2013

and I will be watching and waiting for your report on the conference. Your friend is too.

rwsanders

(2,598 posts)
72. Sorry for your loss. Thanks for attending from those of us who couldn't attend.
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 01:11 PM
Oct 2013

Saw a bit about the doctor who started the autopsy on yahoo. He said the 2 navy MD's who finished it had never performed a forensic autopsy. Apparently he's been fighting this battle for years also.
Thanks again.

Ghost in the Machine

(14,912 posts)
76. Sorry for your loss, my friend..
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 02:05 PM
Oct 2013

Condolences to you, his family, friends and all who knew and loved him.

Peace,

Ghost

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
77. So Sorry to hear this...
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 03:10 PM
Oct 2013

Hugs to you for the loss of your good friend and know we will hear more from you when you've had time to deal with this terrible loss.

 

avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
87. I am so sorry to hear about your loss octafish.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 12:26 AM
Oct 2013

Your friend will be with you forever in your memories and in your soul.


ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
89. Condolences Octa ...
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 05:11 PM
Jan 2014

I didn't get a chance to say much when you posted this so I just recced and meant to comment later. But I'm sad to hear of your friend's sudden passing and was really struck by the parallel. So far I haven't lost any brothers or members of the immediate, not for a long while, and I don't look forward to crossing those bridges when they come, but they soon will, sigh. Anyway happy new year to you and yours!

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
90. Thank you, ucrdem. Happy New Year to You and Yours!
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 06:00 PM
Jan 2014

My buddy was a great journalist, covering the auto reviews for a great metropolitan daily. A man with integrity, I trusted him with my family's safety. He took me out for a spin around the block in a Porsche Panamera. I wanted to wash the car, I was so happy.



Doug earned the job, beating the living daylights out of the bad guys on local, state and federal levels. An Eagle Scout, tops in every way as a human being and as a friend. I still can't believe he's gone from us.

I do know our time here is short. Knowing you from DU, ucrdem, I know that you also appreciate the gift we've been given.

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