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Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 09:30 AM Sep 2013

Art Buchwald; humorist, subversive threat?!?!

Declassified documents show NSA listened in on MLK, Muhammad Ali and Art Buchwald

By Richard Leiby

Amid raging anti-Vietnam War protests that bedeviled two presidential administrations, snoops at the National Security Agency tapped the overseas communications of war critics including Martin Luther King Jr., Muhammad Ali, Sen. Frank Church (D-Idaho), and even Washington Post humor columnist Art Buchwald, according to newly declassified NSA documents released Wednesday.

Oddly, another senator, Howard Baker (R-Tenn.) — an ardent supporter of the war — also was put on the NSA “watch list” that authorized the interception of the surveillance targets’ overseas phone calls, telexes and cable traffic. The list, which grew to more than 1,600 names, was active from 1967 to 1973, covering the terms of Lyndon B. Johnson and Richard M. Nixon, the documents say.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/declassified-documents-show-nsa-listened-in-on-mlk-muhammad-ali-and-art-buchwald/2013/09/25/1a018178-262b-11e3-b3e9-d97fb087acd6_story.html


I'm sure this is all just a relic from a bygone era of excesses and that nothing like that could possibly happen today because we've all been assured on numerous occasions that the NSA is a pillar of civil libertarian rectitude that requires no forceful oversight and merits our unquestioning trust.
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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
2. Buchwald opposed the War for Profit in Vietnam.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 10:14 AM
Sep 2013

Of course he's an enemy of the $tate. Money trumps peace, doncha know.

Poppy, BTW, was scouting out Vietnam for Big Oil and the CIA.

Funny how his NSA file doesn't see the light of day.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
3. LOL!
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 10:20 AM
Sep 2013

I remember going to Ethel Kennedy's house in McLean, VA each year when she held her annual public event there. Buchwald would dress up as a ringmaster to host some kind of Best Pet competition. Obviously, he was VERY subversive.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
4. In the rest of the article the reporter notes how even a pro-war GOPer senator was being monitored.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 10:44 AM
Sep 2013

If not national security we are left to wonder: why? It reeks of power-mongering.

As a side note -- Cute story. I'm not the hob-knobbing sort but I genuinely would have adored such an event.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
7. I lived in McLean at the time, and it was natural for the locals to to attend :)
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 11:23 AM
Sep 2013

We found out about a lot of the spying on citizens long ago, but it always touches a nerve with me. A friend who was a leader in Vietnam Veterans Against the War told me that a majority of the antiwar group reps in any meeting would be undercover cops.

Way back in HS for Boys' Day in Business and Government I was 'Captain-Commander of the Intelligence Division' of the LAPD for the day. I spent the day with the man who held that position, who drove me around in his souped-up, unmarked surveillance car with its hidden police radio and shotgun, and took me to the Police Academy for lunch.

That guy was Daryl Gates, before he rose to Chief. He was very involved in the spying, and in creating the first SWAT team in the country. We didn't stay buddies, though.

Lars39

(26,109 posts)
8. Why spy on Senator Howard Baker? Here ya go:
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 11:31 AM
Sep 2013

Per wiki:
"In 1973 and 1974, Baker was also the influential ranking minority member of the Senate committee, chaired by Senator Sam Ervin, that investigated the Watergate scandal. Baker is famous for having asked aloud, "What did the President know and when did he know it?", a question given him by his counsel and former campaign manager, future U.S. Senator Fred Thompson."

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
9. So the NSA isn't really defending Americans, it's defending
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 11:37 AM
Sep 2013

the fiefdoms of the power elite.

ETA -- thank-you for the very illuminating contribution.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
11. They are very concerned about their own security
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 11:47 AM
Sep 2013

You cannot tote an AR-15 around DC, you are thoroughly screened before going into any public building, or any NRA event. The rest of us are subject to tens of thousands of gun deaths every year as mentally ill and drunk people just gun us down in the streets.

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