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(55,745 posts)
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 11:38 PM Feb 2012

Know your BFEE: WikiLeaks Stratfor Dump Exposes Continued Secret Government Warmongering

War is big business. It's an insider's game. It's why we have so much secret government.

The last remaining enormous wads of cash in the Treasury are to be had for purchasing today's modern military industrial intel complex.

There's more than a trillion to be grabbed -- just for the Lockheed-Martin F-35.

Now keeping tabs on us -- people interested in using some of the nation's treasure for more peaceful purposes -- are for-hire spies. How do I know this? Julian Assange and Anonymous:

WikiLeaks' Stratfor Dump Lifts Lid on Intelligence-Industrial Complex

WikiLeaks' latest release, of hacked emails from Stratfor, shines light on the murky world of private intelligence-gathering

by Pratap Chatterjee
Published on Tuesday, February 28, 2012 by The Guardian/UK

What price bad intelligence? Some 5m internal emails from Stratfor, an Austin, Texas-based company that brands itself as a "global intelligence" provider, were recently obtained by Anonymous, the hacker collective, and are being released in batches by WikiLeaks, the whistleblowing website, starting Monday.

The most striking revelation from the latest disclosure is not simply the military-industrial complex that conspires to spy on citizens, activists and trouble-causers, but the extremely low quality of the information available to the highest bidder. Clients of the company include Dow Chemical, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman and Raytheon, as well as US government agencies like the Department of Homeland Security, the Defense Intelligence Agency and the Marines.


Assange notes that Stratfor is also seeking to profit directly from this information by partnering in an apparent hedge-fund venture with Shea Morenz, a former Goldman Sachs managing director. He points to an August 2011 document, marked "DO NOT SHARE OR DISCUSS", from Stratfor CEO George Friedman, which says:

"What StratCap will do is use our Stratfor's intelligence and analysis to trade in a range of geopolitical instruments, particularly government bonds, currencies and the like."



If it weren't for Anonymous and WikiLeaks, we probably wouldn't know about any of that.

It's no joke. It's no unimportant story. It's no boring history. Run by insiders, the secret government is key to making the system run on behalf of the few -- the 1-percent of 1-percent. Central to that is intelligence -- economically, politically and military useful information.

Which brings up the nation's purported free press, the only business mentioned by name in the entire United States Constitution, and how the organizations therein have miserably failed to feature prominently the sundry and myriad ways the insiders on Wall Street and their toadies in Washington do the work for Them.

The problem is systemic. The corruption is systemic.

Because it involves oversight of secret organizations -- the Pentagon, Homeland Security, CIA, etc -- Congress and the Administration often have no clue, let alone oversight, to what is happening because the corruption is marked "Top Secret."

Secret government also means We the People can't do our job as citizens, which is to hold them accountable and find the ones responsible in order to vote the crooks out and, it is hoped, the honest ones in.

With no citizen oversight, anything goes. And it doesn't stop.

Remember this fine fellow, US Navy fighter ace Randy "Duke" Cunningham?

Later a member of the United States Congress, he used his position to feather his nest, Big Time.

In his political career, Cunningham was a member of the Appropriations and Intelligence committees, and chaired the House Intelligence Subcommittee on Human Intelligence Analysis and Counterintelligence during the 109th Congress. He was considered a leading Republican expert on national security issues.

Currently, he's in USP Tuscon or another fine facility where he gets three squares, medical and dental.
He's due for release in a year or so. He'll be able to pick up his pension.

"The Duke Cunningham Act, also known as the Federal Pension Forfeiture Act, was introduced by U.S. Senator John F. Kerry in 2006. The bill would have denied pension benefits to any members of Congress convicted of bribery, conspiracy or perjury. The bill died in committee. (Source: The Press Enterprise)

Duke wasn't alone. He really was just one snake in a long line of snakes. Remember Dusty Foggo, Number 3 at CIA and close associate of CIA Director and former Congressman Porter Goss? Swells sitting atop the peak of political and military secrecy and power.

Unfortunately, when it comes to modern governance, no oversight means means the insiders are getting away with murder, and warmongering and treason and all the power that they bring. Appointed pretzeldent George W Bush on Valentine's Day 2007 put it in words: "Money trumps peace."

Secret government warmongering and war profiteering are systemic. Secret government is rotten to the core. What's more, in a democracy that once really was land of the free and home of the brave, secret government poses the greatest threat to true national security.
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Know your BFEE: WikiLeaks Stratfor Dump Exposes Continued Secret Government Warmongering (Original Post) Octafish Feb 2012 OP
k&r, always good info Octafish ! nt steve2470 Feb 2012 #1
Thanks, steve2470-san! Privatized Intel is Oh-So-Social. Octafish Mar 2012 #5
Kick & Rec! jannyk Feb 2012 #2
This information makes live tours of an 19th-century sausage factory seem fit for pre-schoolers. Octafish Mar 2012 #6
Half a trillion dollars a year dedicated to breaking stuff and killing people FarCenter Mar 2012 #3
While most everyone I know doesn't mind paying taxes to make the USA a better place... Octafish Mar 2012 #11
Remember these bastards? lonestarnot Mar 2012 #4
Gawsh. That's twice what NASA's entire budget for 2013. Octafish Mar 2012 #12
Hey, Sandy Skoglund photo! Hissyspit Mar 2012 #19
Her work is remarkable. Octafish Mar 2012 #34
Welfare kings! Bastards know exactly about that best welfare state. lonestarnot Mar 2012 #23
Corruption Touched CIA’s Covert Operations Octafish Mar 2012 #33
Throw mo money, throw mo money! lonestarnot Mar 2012 #45
George Carlin was right - we are a war like people. Initech Mar 2012 #7
Mr. Carlin was a living Buddha. Octafish Mar 2012 #20
K&R Hell Hath No Fury Mar 2012 #8
''He who excuses himself, accuses himself.'' -- Gabriel Meurier Octafish Mar 2012 #22
And in related news ... bananas Mar 2012 #9
GOP Spies at Work on Us ... as in 'We the People' Us. Octafish Mar 2012 #10
+1 woo me with science Mar 2012 #17
K&R woo me with science Mar 2012 #13
Oil, Media, and War Octafish Mar 2012 #25
Kick woo me with science Mar 2012 #14
US 'draws up secret charges' against WikiLeaks' Julian Assange Octafish Mar 2012 #28
Always a DURec from me... bvar22 Mar 2012 #15
WikiLeaks Goes Inside Corporate America's Wannabe CIA Octafish Mar 2012 #29
He sure is something!!! n/t greytdemocrat Mar 2012 #39
Kick woo me with science Mar 2012 #16
Was Carol Lam Targeting The White House Prior To Her Firing? Octafish Mar 2012 #18
Lam had a few irons in the fire before she was fired hootinholler Mar 2012 #24
Wow! Sampson Admits He Made Call To Silence FBI Complaints Over Lam’s Firing Octafish Mar 2012 #31
Dusty Foggo’s Girlfriend, John Rizzo, and the Salt Pit Octafish Mar 2012 #32
It's an odd knot hootinholler Mar 2012 #38
K&R....n/t unkachuck Mar 2012 #21
Blogging About WikiLeaks Could Get You Fired Octafish Mar 2012 #30
you're welcome, Octafish....excellent piece....n/t unkachuck Mar 2012 #37
k&r! nt. wildbilln864 Mar 2012 #26
''Trusted Former CIA Cronies'' Octafish Mar 2012 #27
per Smedley Butler..."War is a Racket" nt wildbilln864 Mar 2012 #43
Interesting as always. Quantess Mar 2012 #35
Goss Knew Foggo Shared A Girlfriend With Russian Spy, But Hired Him Anyway Octafish Mar 2012 #36
K&R raouldukelives Mar 2012 #40
'Shadow CIA' buys state secrets for cash via Swiss bank accounts... Octafish Mar 2012 #41
Kick Thanks for the "light" reading Agony Mar 2012 #42
Wikileaks Release Suggests Stratfor Inside Info Plan with Goldman Sachs Exec Octafish Mar 2012 #44
warm and fuzzy kick G_j Apr 2013 #46
Manning the new age truth polynomial Jun 2013 #47


(55,745 posts)
5. Thanks, steve2470-san! Privatized Intel is Oh-So-Social.
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 10:15 AM
Mar 2012

by Steve Kangas

The wealthy have always used many methods to accumulate wealth, but it was not until the mid-1970s that these methods coalesced into a superbly organized, cohesive and efficient machine. After 1975, it became greater than the sum of its parts, a smooth flowing organization of advocacy groups, lobbyists, think tanks, conservative foundations, and PR firms that hurtled the richest 1 percent into the stratosphere.

The origins of this machine, interestingly enough, can be traced back to the CIA. This is not to say the machine is a formal CIA operation, complete with code name and signed documents. (Although such evidence may yet surface — and previously unthinkable domestic operations such as MK-ULTRA, CHAOS and MOCKINGBIRD show this to be a distinct possibility.) But what we do know already indicts the CIA strongly enough. Its principle creators were Irving Kristol, Paul Weyrich, William Simon, Richard Mellon Scaife, Frank Shakespeare, William F. Buckley, Jr., the Rockefeller family, and more. Almost all the machine's creators had CIA backgrounds.


How did this alliance start? The CIA has always recruited the nation’s elite: millionaire businessmen, Wall Street brokers, members of the national news media, and Ivy League scholars. During World War II, General "Wild Bill" Donovan became chief of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), the forerunner of the CIA. Donovan recruited so exclusively from the nation’s rich and powerful that members eventually came to joke that "OSS" stood for "Oh, so social!"


Historically, the CIA and society’s elite have been one and the same people. This means that their interests and goals are one and the same as well. Perhaps the most frequent description of the intelligence community is the "old boy network," where members socialize, talk shop, conduct business and tap each other for favors well outside the formal halls of government.



Capitalism's Invisible Army also employs a very generous amount of nepotism to keep the old lines in service. It's a legacy thing.


(55,745 posts)
6. This information makes live tours of an 19th-century sausage factory seem fit for pre-schoolers.
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 10:27 AM
Mar 2012
New WikiLeaks stash: a frightening view of government intelligence

By Rachel Marsden
March 1, 2012

As promised in December, WikiLeaks has begun to release a stash of documents related to the modus operandi of the "private intelligence" sector, using Texas-based Stratfor as a case study. Claiming to have hacked Stratfor's system to obtain millions of private emails, WikiLeaks has just released the first batch -- and what it suggests about the American intelligence community makes me feel as secure as day-old pizza in a frat house.


Apparently the entities charged with keeping us safe now require full-blown lessons from the private sector in how to do their jobs. According to leaked email written by Stratfor's CEO, George Friedman: "We have also been asked to help the United States Marine Corps and other government intelligence organizations to teach them how Stratfor does what it does, and train them in becoming government Stratfors. We are beginning this project by preparing a three-year forecast for the Commandant of the Corps. This is a double honor for us."

Double honor for you; double horror for us! The fact that the commandant of the Marine Corps "and other government intelligence organizations" might require your expertise in learning how to do what they've historically been entrusted by the public to do does nothing for my sense of security.

Do you know how a lot of these outfits in the thriving private intelligence sector operate? The company CEO, usually a former agency employee who has maintained UMBRA or "Top Secret" clearance, meets with a private or state client to pitch his outfit's services, then passes off the analysis work to some book-smart/sidewalk-stupid naif who has just been dragged kicking and screaming into the real-world workforce after frittering away a good decade or so ringing up a party tour of Ivy League schools on mommy and daddy's AmEx black card. Kids work cheap -- especially trust-funders. With few exceptions, that's who's really doing the work in protecting America's interests.



Hey, jannyk! Remember the character Joe Pesci played in The Good Shepherd?


(55,745 posts)
11. While most everyone I know doesn't mind paying taxes to make the USA a better place...
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 05:05 PM
Mar 2012

...we really as a government seem to be into the overkilling enemies foreign and domestic thing a lot since November 22, 1963.

How to Make Money Off War (The Short Form)

Eisenhower and Latin America: The Foreign Policy of Anti-Communism

Author: Stephen G. Rabe
University of North Carolina Press, 1988

The Republicans captured the White House in 1953 after they claimed that the Truman administration had been "soft on Communism" and after stating that they were determined to turn the tide against the "Red menace." Eisenhower's vice president, Richard Nixon, had spoken of "twenty years of treason," and Eisenhower's secretary of state, John Foster Dulles, had pledged that Republicans would "roll back the Iron Curtain in Eastern Europe."

Secretary Dulles warned that conditions in Latin America were comparable to "conditions as they were in China in the mid-thirties when the Communist movement was getting started," and that the time to deal with this rising menace was "now." In a telephone conversation with his brother, Allen, head of the CIA, he said that "the Communists trying to extend their form of despotism in this hemisphere." In a cabinet meeting he spoke of the need to convince Latin Americans that Communism was "an international conspiracy, not an indigenous movement."

In 1954, Latin America had 13 dictators among its 20 nations, and the anti-Communist declarations by dictators pleased the Eisenhower administration. According to the author, Stephen Rabe, when people wanted the U.S. State Department to "intercede on behalf of the political prisoners rotting in the dungeons of the dictator Pérez Jiménez," Dulles refused. President Eisenhower awarded a Legion of Merit to Peru's dictator, Manuel Odría. Jiménez received his Legion of Merit from the U.S. ambassador in a grand ceremony in Venezuela, winning congratulations for his "energy and firmness of purpose" in having "greatly increased the capacity of the Armed Forces of Venezuela to participate in the collective defense of the Western Hemisphere" and his "concern toward the problem of Communist infiltration."

In Guatemala in 1954 the regime of President Arbenz was pursuing democracy and reform and worried the Eisenhower administration. Arbenz had become Guatemala's president in 1951, according to Rabe the country's first ever peaceful transition of power. Arbenz pledged to create an economically independent capitalist state and had begun to build ports and highways. He convinced the legislature to enact a modest income tax, the first in Guatemala's history, and launched a program of land redistribution, including a loss of 1,700 fallow acres that had belonged to his family. Rabe estimates that "Guatemala's new social welfare programs were more modest than those advocated by liberal Democrats in the United States and Laborites in Great Britain." In 1953 the Eisenhower administration estimated that Communists in Guatemala numbered around 1,000, and it saw Communist influence in organized labor and in the agrarian reform movement. Arbenz's ruling coalition consisted of 51 congressional deputies, four of whom were Communists. In January, 1954, President Eisenhower told Guatemala's foreign minister that he "couldn't help a government which was openly playing ball with Communists" and that the United States was "determined to block the international Communist conspiracy." The Arbenz regime replied that their land reform would undermine the appeal of Communism. According to Rabe, the Eisenhower administration rejected explanations from the Arbenz administration and concluded that Arbenz was either a "dupe" of the Communists or worse. Secretary Dulles spoke of the impossibility of producing evidence tying the Guatemalan government to Moscow but that he and the administration had a "deep conviction that such a tie must exist."


It's the strangest thing. Devilish, really.


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4. Remember these bastards?
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 12:05 AM
Mar 2012

The Five Secret Billion-Dollar Companies Sucking Obscene Amounts of Taxpayer Money
Meet the mystery defense contractors that are raking in billions in taxpayer dollars without notice.
June 26, 2008 | World headlines via email.
At $34 billion, you're already counting pretty high. After all, that's Harvard's endowment; it's the amount of damage the triple hurricanes -- Charley, Ivan, and Jeanne -- inflicted in 2004; it's what car crashes involving 15-to-17-year-old teenage drivers mean yearly in "medical expenses, lost work, property damage, quality of life loss and other related costs"; it's the loans the nation's largest, crippled, home lender, Countrywide Financial, holds for home-equity lines of credit and second liens; it's Citigroup's recent write-off, mainly for subprime exposure; it's what New Jersey's tourism industry is worth -- and, according to the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, it's the minimal figure for the Pentagon's "black budget" for fiscal year 2009 -- money for, among other things, "classified weapons purchases and development," money for which the Pentagon will remain unaccountable because almost no Americans will have any way of knowing what it's being spent for.

Now, imagine that, due to a little more Pentagon/Bush administration wizardry, even this black budget estimate is undoubtedly a low-ball figure. One reason is simple enough: The proposed $541 billion Pentagon 2009 budget doesn't even include money for actual wars. George W. Bush's wars are all paid for by "supplemental" bills like the $162 billion one Congress will soon pass -- so the Department of Defense's $34 billion black budget skips "war-related funding." This means that even the overall figure for that budget remains darker than we might imagine (as in "black hole&quot . The Pentagon not only produces stealth planes, it is, in budgetary terms, a stealth operation. If honestly accounted, the actual Pentagon yearly budget, including all the "military-related" funds salted away elsewhere, is probably now more than $1 trillion a year.

There is, however, another stealth side to the Pentagon -- the corporate side where a range of giant companies you've never heard of are gobbling up our tax dollars at phenomenal rates. Nick Turse, author of the single best account of how our lives are being militarized, our civilian economy Pentagonized, and the Pentagon privatized -- I'm talking about The Complex: How the Military Invades Our Everyday Lives -- now turns to the stealth corporate side of the Pentagon to give us a glimpse into the larger black hole into which our dollars pour.


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12. Gawsh. That's twice what NASA's entire budget for 2013.
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 05:21 PM
Mar 2012
A slashed budget.

From your outstanding article, lonestarnot:

The top Pentagon contractors, like death and taxes, almost never change. In 2002, the massive arms dealers Lockheed Martin, Boeing, and Northrop Grumman ranked one, two, and three among Department of Defense contractors, taking in $17 billion, $16.6 billion, and $8.7 billion. Lockheed, Boeing, and Northrop Grumman did it again in 2003 ($21.9, $17.3, and $11.1 billion); 2004 ($20.7, $17.1, and $11.9 billion); 2005 ($19.4, $18.3, and $13.5 billion); 2006 ($26.6, $20.3, and $16.6 billion); and, not surprisingly, 2007 as well ($27.8, $22.5, and $14.6 billion). Other regulars receiving mega-tax-funded payouts in a similarly clockwork-like manner include defense giants General Dynamics, Raytheon, the British weapons maker BAE Systems, and former Halliburton subsidiary KBR, as well as BP, Shell, and other power players from the military-petroleum complex.

Last year, in a piece headlined "Washington's $8 Billion Shadow," Vanity Fair published an exposé of one of the better known large stealth contractors, SAIC (Science Applications International Corporation). SAIC, however, is just one of tens of thousands of Pentagon contractors. Many of these firms receive only tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars from the Pentagon every year. Some take home millions, tens of millions, or even hundreds of millions of dollars.

Then there's a select group that are masters of the universe in the ever-expanding military-corporate complex, regularly scoring more than a billion tax dollars a year from the Department of Defense. Unlike Lockheed, Boeing, and Northrop Grumman, however, most of these billion-dollar babies manage to fly beneath the radar of media (not to mention public) attention. If appearing at all, they generally do so innocuously in the business pages of newspapers. When it comes to their support for the Pentagon's wars and occupations in Afghanistan and Iraq, they are, in media terms, missing in action.

So, who are some of these mystery defense contractors you've probably never heard of? Here are snapshot portraits, culled largely from their own corporate documents, of five of the Pentagon's secret billion-dollar babies:


Gee. Companies like:

MacAndrews & Forbes Holdings Inc.
DRS Technologies, Inc.
Harris Corporation
Navistar Defense
Evergreen International Airlines

And a heckuva lot more.

Talk about welfare...


(45,788 posts)
19. Hey, Sandy Skoglund photo!
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 10:59 PM
Mar 2012
'Radioactive Cats'

"...in which hopes and expectations fade into the dullness of gray, as a phlegmatic elderly couple live out their colorless lives." - Lois Fichner-Rathus

Skoglund: "...the image is plausible and this is the reason why photography is more adapted to my purpose than painting. Often I am asked why I do not produce my images with a computer: it would change the meaning."


(55,745 posts)
33. Corruption Touched CIA’s Covert Operations
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 05:58 PM
Mar 2012

Things I've learned in looking up other things:

Above is a never-before-published picture of the wine locker at the Capital Grille that defense contractor Brent R. Wilkes shared with Kyle Dusty Foggo when Foggo was the executive director of the CIA and illegally steering contracts to Wilkes. Wilkes paid for many expensive meals for Foggo at the restaurant. (Photo by Jerry Kammer)

No sacrifice is too great when it comes to defending dinner. I mean, democracy.

Corruption Touched CIA’s Covert Operations

by Marcus Stern
ProPublica, Feb. 25, 2009, 12 a.m.

Paramilitary agents for the CIA’s super-secret Special Activities Division, or SAD, perform raids, ambushes, abductions and other difficult chores overseas, including infiltrating countries to “light up” targets from the ground for air-to-ground missile strikes. This week the government acknowledged for the first time that some of SAD’s sensitive air operations were swept up in a fraud conspiracy that reached the highest levels of the CIA and cost the government $40 million.

That information was contained in a series of court filings released in advance of the long-awaited sentencing of Kyle Dustin “Dusty” Foggo, the disgraced former No. 3 official at the CIA.

One remarkable affidavit came from a leader of SAD, a branch of the CIA’s National Clandestine Service, which handles covert actions. It indicates that Foggo forced SAD to use a shell company set up by defense contractor Brent R. Wilkes to handle its sensitive air operations, even though Wilkes and his company had no experience in clandestine aviation operations.


The documents also argue that Wilkes and Foggo tried to incorporate the military’s need for armored vehicles into an array of contracts that involved not only the CIA’s sensitive air operations but also water for troops in Iraq. Wilkes’ and Foggo’s deals—during which they hid their long, personal friendship from other government officials—included markups of up to 60 percent on the goods and services they sold the CIA.



True patriots, these guardians of the free market, Capitalism's Invisible Army.


(55,745 posts)
20. Mr. Carlin was a living Buddha.
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 11:30 PM
Mar 2012

Profound and Unforgettable and True.

So was Sam Kinnison.

"War's the only thing we're any good at, anymore."

That video was from Gulf War I, back in 1991. A Bush had to lie to get America to make that war, too.

Our Government Has Already Been Caught Lying About Iraq

It turned out that the "Iraqi troops satellite photos" were fake

"We were told that Iraqi troops were massing at the Saudi border. And these satellite photographs were shown to the Saudi leadership, to get them to change their mind and allow US troops to enter their country.

Well it turned out that those satellite photos were fake. They never existed. The story was broken in the St. Petersburg Times some months later. And it was something that people were convinced of because we were told it was satellite photographs" - Phyllis Bennis from the Institute for Policy Studies

There was virtual unanimous acceptance by the media of the allegedly enormous manpower behind Saddam's territorial ambition. Only the St. Petersburg Times, a well-respected Florida daily under independent ownership, challenged the government line. In a top-of-front-page story published on Sunday, January 6, Washington bureau reporter Jean Heller reported that satellite photos of the border between southern Kuwait and Saudi Arabia taken on September 11 and 13, 1990, by a Soviet company revealed "no evidence of a massive Iraqi presence in Kuwait in September. . . ." "A number" of American news organizations had bought the same pictures (see article below) and shown them to various experts, [satellite imagery expert Peter] Zimmerman said, and "all of us agreed that we couldn't see anything in the way of military activity in the pictures." But again cautiousness overcame curiosity among the media.( from footnotes to Understanding Power)

SOURCE: http://www.representativepress.org/LiesAboutIraq.html

For at least three generations, war for oil in the Middle East is a Bush family tradition.

PS: Thank you very much for the video, Initech. Mr. Carlin was just getting started...


(55,745 posts)
22. ''He who excuses himself, accuses himself.'' -- Gabriel Meurier
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 11:44 PM
Mar 2012

There must be a corollary for media silence.


How Americas Most Powerful News Media Worked Hand in Glove with the Central Intelligence Agency and Why the Church Committee Covered It Up


In 1953, Joseph Alsop, then one of America’s leading syndicated columnists, went to the Philippines to cover an election. He did not go because he was asked to do so by his syndicate. He did not go because he was asked to do so by the newspapers that printed his column. He went at the request of the CIA.

Alsop is one of more than 400 American journalists who in the past twenty‑five years have secretly carried out assignments for the Central Intelligence Agency, according to documents on file at CIA headquarters. Some of these journalists’ relationships with the Agency were tacit; some were explicit. There was cooperation, accommodation and overlap.

Journalists provided a full range of clandestine services—from simple intelligence gathering to serving as go‑betweens with spies in Communist countries. Reporters shared their notebooks with the CIA. Editors shared their staffs. Some of the journalists were Pulitzer Prize winners, distinguished reporters who considered themselves ambassadors without‑portfolio for their country. Most were less exalted: foreign correspondents who found that their association with the Agency helped their work; stringers and freelancers who were as interested in the derring‑do of the spy business as in filing articles; and, the smallest category, full‑time CIA employees masquerading as journalists abroad. In many instances, CIA documents show, journalists were engaged to perform tasks for the CIA with the consent of the managements of America’s leading news organizations.


Among the executives who lent their cooperation to the Agency were Willia(m) Paley of the Columbia Broadcasting System, Henry Luce of Tirne Inc., Arthur Hays Sulzberger of the New York Times, Barry Bingham Sr. of the LouisviIle Courier‑Journal, and James Copley of the Copley News Service. Other organizations which cooperated with the CIA include the American Broadcasting Company, the National Broadcasting Company, the Associated Press, United Press International, Reuters, Hearst Newspapers, Scripps‑Howard, Newsweek magazine, the Mutual Broadcasting System, the Miami Herald and the old Saturday Evening Post and New York Herald‑Tribune.



That article was published 35 years ago. Jimmy Carter, at the time, had just fired George Herbert Walker Bush from his job as Director of Central Intelligence. While we've had more than 20 years of a Bush in the White House since, as an old guy I can tell you there have not been very many more articles on the CIA and the press since.


(27,509 posts)
9. And in related news ...
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 12:41 PM
Mar 2012

Saudi Arabia May Be Tied to 9/11, 2 Ex-Senators Say

Know why the Saudi involvement in
Septembertheeleventh remains largely
"not investigated"?


(55,745 posts)
10. GOP Spies at Work on Us ... as in 'We the People' Us.
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 04:49 PM
Mar 2012

Gee. If the Roberts Court didn't have to decide it, I guess this would be illegal.

CIFA 2.0 Back in the Outsourcing Business

By: emptywheel Thursday April 21, 2011 9:30 am

Remember the Counterintelligence Field Activity (CIFA)? Here’s how I described it back in 2007.

CIFA is, along with the National Security Letters Congress is now cracking down on, probably the biggest abuse of civil rights and privacy BushCo has hatched up. It was designed to gather intelligence on threats to defense installments in the United States–to try to collect information (in the TALON database) on threatening people scoping out domestic bases. But it ended up focusing on peace activists and the lefty blogosphere’s own Jesus’ General. 70 percent of CIFA’s employees are contractors, a figure that makes it a prime candidate for politicized contracting scandal.

Among the contractors spying on Americans was MZM, one of the companies that bribed Duke Cunningham. Prosecutors in that case started investigating MZM’s CIFA contracts in May 2006. Three months after that, the top two managers at CIFA, who had directed CIFA keep sending MZM contracts, resigned suddenly. When DOD’s Inspector General tried to investigate CIFA in 2007, it discovered (it claimed) that the entire CIFA database had been destroyed in June 2006, just as prosecutors were closing in on those contracts.

[font color="green"]Later, in 2008, just as CIFA was claiming it couldn’t publicly reveal its unclassified contracts, we learned that Stephen Cambone (who had led one of the inquiries into CIFA), had won a contract from it, sort of a payoff for not finding anything, I guess.[/font color]

Later that year, DOD “disestablished” CIFA.

Or rather, they renamed it, calling it the Defense Counterintelligence and Human Intelligence Center. Then, last year, we learned that database DOD claimed had been destroyed in 2006 really hadn’t been, and CIFA 2.0 was getting back in the business of keeping a database of information on big threats to the US like Quakers and bloggers.



Thanks, bananas! People who think this is old news are, well, missing a very big boat.

Like a clean environment, freedom was something We the People just took for granted -- apart from those who read the newspapers, of course.


(55,745 posts)
25. Oil, Media, and War
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 11:56 PM
Mar 2012

Something about the resource extraction business, from September 16, 2001:


Where are the moderating voices, the views of those who stand against the momentum of war, who challenge the self-serving rationalizations of empire? You are unlikely to find them in the major media.

The Corporation for Public Broadcasting is headed by Bob Coonrad, formerly deputy managing director of the U.S. propaganda station Voice of America. At the helm of National Public Radio is Kevin Klose, formerly director of the International Broadcasting Bureau, which oversees Voice of America, Radio Free Europe, Radio Liberty, and Radio and Television Marti. (Klose in September 2002 was in Rhinebeck, New York, arguing the necessity of attacking Iraq.) The chairman of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) is Michael Powell, son of the secretary of state.

(March 2003: Clear Channel, the Texas-based owner of more than 1200 radio and 36 television stations in the USA, with its own syndication and tour management divisions, has been organizing rallies in support of invading Iraq. They also maintain and enforce a list of banned songs and musicians for their stations. Vice chairman Tom Hicks made George W. Bush a multimillionaire by buying the Texas Rangers baseball team from him. As one of the creators and the first chairman of the University of Texas Investment Management Company (with Clear Channel founder Lowry Mays on the board) when Bush was governor, he turned over the control of its funds to companies close to the Bushes, including The Carlyle Group mentioned below. Clear Channel's growth has depended on continued deregulation and lax oversight by the FCC and has its own lobbying office in Washington.)

Oil companies often share board members with the media. The director of Texaco (recently merged with Chevron), former senator Sam Nunn, is also on the board of directors of GE/NBC (GE is the nation's sixth largest defense contractor). Texaco board of directors member Charles Price sits on the New York Times/Boston Globe board of directors. Corporate board member William Steere is on the board of directors of Dow Jones/Wall Street Journal. A member of the Dow Jones/Wall Street Journal corporate board, Rand Araskog, also sits on the board of directors of Shell Oil.


Robert Oakley, U.S. ambassador to Pakistan in the 1980's and instrumental to the CIA support of the Afghan Mujahedin (in which Osama bin Laden became a commander), now works for Unocal. One of the Mujahedin's leaders, Hamid Karzai, was the main intermediary between the Mujahedin and the CIA. He later became a top advisor to Unocal and after the ending of Taliban rule in Afghanistan was installed as prime minister. Henry Kissinger also works for Unocal. Secretary of the Air Force under the elder George Bush, Donald Rice, is on Unocal's board of directors. (Rice is also a former president of the military think tank RAND.) Another board member is Charles Larson, former commander-in-chief of the U.S. Navy's pacific command. Former RAND employee and Unocal advisor Zalman Khalilzad is now the National Security Council's advisor for southwest Asia. Afghanistan-born Khalilzad was also an advisor to the state department in the 1980's and is a close associate of Vice President Cheney and Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz. [On December 31, 2001, Khalilzad became special envoy to Afghanistan.]



...very profitable, that mineral extraction. Especially when applying the muscle of the Pentagon so your friends can steal it from the people who once owned it.


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28. US 'draws up secret charges' against WikiLeaks' Julian Assange
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 09:53 AM
Mar 2012

The Economic Times (Sydney)
Feb. 29, 2012

Sydney: US prosecutors have drawn up secret charges against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, a confidential email cited by media today said, as his lawyer demanded Australia start protecting him.

The email is one of a huge number from the US-based global intelligence company Stratfor that the whistleblowing organisation began publishing on Monday.

Internal correspondence to Stratfor analysts from vice-president of intelligence Fred Burton said: "We have a sealed indictment on Assange," according to the Sydney Morning Herald.

The newspaper, which has access to the emails through an investigative partnership with WikiLeaks, said the comment on January 26 last year was made in response to a media report about US investigations targeting WikiLeaks.



It's not democracy, it's corrupt government that needs "secret charges" to survive the truth.


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15. Always a DURec from me...
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 08:35 PM
Mar 2012

You are a valuable asset to DU.

You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.
[font size=5 color=green]Solidarity99![/font][font size=2 color=green]


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29. WikiLeaks Goes Inside Corporate America's Wannabe CIA
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 10:14 AM
Mar 2012

Now, who can an afford to buy such, uh, information? Beside the Food Trust behind Sen. Bob Dole?

WikiLeaks Goes Inside Corporate America's Wannabe CIA

What do Coke, Goldman, the Marines, and the Knights of Columbus have in common? They all paid Stratfor to act as their own private intelligence agency.

—By Adam Weinstein | Mother Jones, Mon Feb. 27, 2012 1:42 PM PST


Few companies seemed as concerned about threats from activists as Archer Daniels Midland, the "Goliath of world food production" Mother Jones once described as equally concerned with "possible price-fixing in Bulgaria" and "influence-peddling in Washington." Shortly after Stratfor started its Global Vantage service, Rich Ryan of ADM's "investigative unit" began to hit them up for intel on political enemies:

• On July 24, 2006: "Rich called to ask a few more questions about activist campaigns to pass to other business divisions. Watching for more information."

• Two days later: "Talked with Rich several times about activist campaign against the company."

• On November 9, 2006: "Received email from Rich regarding some animal rights protesters. Setting up a meeting while he and Mark are in DC next week."

• Five days later: "Rich came into the office for a brief discussion about animal rights as it relates to their new facilty [sic.] in Decatur. He seems very happy with the service, and happy with our information and assistance."



Deep pockets, theirs. Very deep. And lightless.

Thank you, bvar22. You have no idea how much your kindness over the years means.


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18. Was Carol Lam Targeting The White House Prior To Her Firing?
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 10:51 PM
Mar 2012

I dunno how this has since shaken down, but I do know one crazy warmonger in cheat has gotten clean away.

Was Carol Lam Targeting The White House Prior To Her Firing

By Faiz Shakir on Mar 19, 2007 at 1:52 pm

lamReferring to the Bush administration’s purge of former San Diego-based U.S. attorney Carol Lam, Sen. Arlen Specter (R-PA) questioned recently on the Senate floor whether she was let go because she was “about to investigate other people who were politically powerful.”

The media reports this morning that among Lam’s politically powerful targets were former CIA official Kyle “Dusty” Foggo and then-House Appropriations Committee Chairman Jerry Lewis (R-CA). But there is evidence to believe that the White House may also have been on Lam’s target list. Here are the connections:

– Washington D.C. defense contractor Mitchell Wade pled guilty last February to paying then-California Rep. Randy “Duke” Cunningham more than $1 million in bribes.

– Wade’s company MZM Inc. received its first federal contract from the White House. The contract, which ran from July 15 to August 15, 2002, stipulated that Wade be paid $140,000 to “provide office furniture and computers for Vice President Dick Cheney.”

– Two weeks later, on August 30, 2002, Wade purchased a yacht for $140,000 for Duke Cunningham. The boat’s name was later changed to the “Duke-Stir.” Said one party to the sale: “I knew then that somebody was going to go to jail for that…Duke looked at the boat, and Wade bought it — all in one day. Then they got on the boat and floated away.”

– According to Cunningham’s sentencing memorandum, the purchase price of the boat had been negotiated through a third-party earlier that summer, around the same time the White House contract was signed.


Thank you, woo me with science! Some things, like prosecution of traitors and warmongers, are too important to, eh, let drop.


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24. Lam had a few irons in the fire before she was fired
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 11:48 PM
Mar 2012

From a notes file I started back in the day...

Investigations impacted:
Cunningham conspiracy Lam) http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/18/AR2007031801263.html
Cunningham -Plea bargain -Cooperated
Brent Wilkes, Dusty Foggo -indicted
The U.S. attorney in San Diego notified the Justice Department of search warrants in a Republican bribery scandal last May 10, one day before the attorney general's chief of staff warned the White House of a "real problem" with her, a Democratic senator said yesterday.

The prosecutor, Carol S. Lam, was dismissed seven months later as part of an effort by the Justice Department and the White House to fire eight U.S. attorneys.

(Lam) http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/27/AR2007032701492.html
On January 13, the San Diego Union-Tribune quoted Dan Dzwilewski, head of FBI's San Diego office, as saying Lam was crucial to ongoing investigations. "I guarantee politics is involved," he was quoted saying.

Feinstein said her chief counsel had called the FBI's San Diego office to verify the accuracy of the story. She said the office confirmed it was true "but they also said they'd been warned to say no more."

Rep Jerry Lewis: (Lam) http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-na-usattys15mar15,1,5413433.story?coll=la-news-a_section
On May 11 the month after Sampson told the White House counsel's office that Lam was being targeted for dismissal. The Times reported that federal prosecutors in Los Angeles had begun an investigation into Lewis. They were trying to connect Lewis, who at that time chaired the powerful House Appropriations Committee, to a Washington lobbyist linked to the Cunningham bribery case, The Times said.

Shortly before noon Washington time that day, Sampson e-mailed Kelley to complain about Lam.

The Lewis probe was an extension of the case Lam started in San Diego. But it was being handled by the U.S. attorney's office in Los Angeles because Lewis' Redlands headquarters falls under its purview.


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31. Wow! Sampson Admits He Made Call To Silence FBI Complaints Over Lam’s Firing
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 10:50 AM
Mar 2012

Stuff to remember...

Sampson Admits He Made Call To Silence FBI Complaints Over Lam’s Firing

By ThinkProgress on Mar 29, 2007 at 2:00 pm

During today’s hearing, Sen. Diane Feinstein (D-CA) questioned Kyle Sampson about the head of the FBI office in San Diego, Dan Dzwilewski, who told reporters in January that Carol Lam’s firing was a blow to efforts to prosecute ongoing cases.

At a hearing with FBI Director Robert Mueller this week, Feinstein said that Dzwilewski’s office had told her it had subsequently been contacted and “warned to say no more.” Under questioning today, Sampson acknowledged he had made a call to complain about Dzwilewski’s statement. But Sampson said he had merely “asked…why an FBI employee was commenting on that issue.” Watch it:
< flv http://video.thinkprogress.org/2007/03/lamfbi.320.240.flv >

Also today, [font color="green"]Sampson claimed that the “real problem” with Carol Lam that Sampson referred to in an email “was her office’s prosecution of immigration cases.”[/font coor]



Right. Immigration. That's the ticket. Not money trumps peace.

Thank you, SuperHoot! Lots to know, in your post thar.


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32. Dusty Foggo’s Girlfriend, John Rizzo, and the Salt Pit
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 11:04 AM
Mar 2012

Thanks, again, hootinholler! Something else that's news to me, the Salt Pit deaths and Dusty Foggo's girlfriend:

Dusty Foggo’s Girlfriend, John Rizzo, and the Salt Pit

By: emptywheel Sunday March 28, 2010 11:31 am


Details of how Foggo got his girlfriend hired appeared in the sentencing documents for his conviction in the Brent Wilkes/Duke Cunningham case (they were included not just to show Foggo’s corruption, but also because, over the course of the case, Foggo had repeatedly claimed to be happily and faithfully married).


Now, there is no definitive reason to think there’s a link between Foggo’s decision that two lower level guys who killed a detainee in Afghanistan should get off with no punishment and his girlfriend’s remarkable career at CIA.

But it’s clear from both the AP story on the Salt Pit and Yoo’s response to the OPR Report that the Salt Pit death happened at least partly because of instructions that came from Langley, instructions that may have involved Rizzo directly. And we know that within weeks of the time Foggo saw the details CIA revealed in his sentencing memorandum, he decided to get all chatty with John Durham about the torture tape destruction (note, this was before Durham’s mandate was extended to include the Salt Pit death, so Foggo’s testimony couldn’t have pertained directly to this review). [font color="red"]We also know that DOJ started to have a “real problem” with Carol Lam’s investigation of Duke Cunningham and Brent Wilkes as soon as she asked for a search warrant of Foggo.[/font color]

Dusty Foggo got incredible levels of protection while in his last two years at CIA, protection that probably goes beyond what you’d expect of his senior position. With each new detail of his involvement in the torture program, it seems more and more likely that that protection extended at least in part from the role he played in covering up torture.

SOURCE: http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2010/03/28/dusty-foggos-girlfriend-john-rizzo-and-the-salt-pit/

Imagine that, torture. The stuff one learns when reading. Too bad the newspapers are going extinct and the thinking that goes with them. Someday soon, if the BFEE get their way, no one will even think to ask: "What about all the money being made by all the cronies up the food chain?"


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38. It's an odd knot
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 11:49 AM
Mar 2012

It's kind of funny how well groomed the knot is. Just when a thread comes a little loose, it seems to get clipped somehow from somewhere.

There's the DC madam who was wrapped around this axle after servicing some high stakes poker games (well her stakes turned out to be pretty high)

Then there's the assistant prosecutor who was hired off the case by the firm handling the Lewis defense. She got a different prize than the madam got.

I'm pretty sure I don't have anywhere near the whole picture here. Between black Jack Abramoff and the Dukester lots has to have been buried. Neither of those cases reached their real potential.


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30. Blogging About WikiLeaks Could Get You Fired
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 10:41 AM
Mar 2012

Seems writing about the truth is unsportsmanlike.

Blogging About WikiLeaks Could Get You Fired

A State Department employee is under investigation for disclosing classified information. His big disclosure? Linking to a widely publicized WikiLeaks document on his personal blog.

—By Peter Van Buren | Tom Dispatch / Mother Jones, Tue Sep. 27, 2011 12:56 PM PDT

On the same day that more than 250,000 unredacted State Department cables hemorrhaged out onto the Internet, I was interrogated for the first time in my 23-year State Department career by State's Bureau of Diplomatic Security (DS) and told I was under investigation for allegedly disclosing classified information. The evidence of my crime? A posting on my blog from the previous month that included a link to a WikiLeaks document already available elsewhere on the web.

As we sat in a small, gray, windowless room, resplendent with a two-way mirror, multiple ceiling-mounted cameras, and iron rungs on the table to which handcuffs could be attached, the two DS agents stated that the inclusion of that link amounted to disclosing classified material. In other words, a link to a document posted by who-knows-who on a public website available at this moment to anyone in the world was the legal equivalent of me stealing a top secret report, hiding it under my coat, and passing it to a Chinese spy in a dark alley.

The agents demanded to know who might be helping me with my blog ("Name names!&quot , if I had donated any money from my upcoming book on my wacky year-long State Department assignment to a forward military base in Iraq, and if so to which charities, the details of my contract with my publisher, how much money (if any) I had been paid, and—by the way—whether I had otherwise "transferred" classified information.

Had I, they asked, looked at the WikiLeaks site at home on my own time on my own computer? Every blog post, every Facebook post, and every tweet by every State Department employee, they told me, must be precleared by the Department prior to "publication." Then they called me back for a second 90-minute interview, stating that my refusal to answer questions would lead to my being fired, never mind the Fifth (or the First) Amendment.



Thank you, unkachuck! It's probably illegal to even think about Wikileaks. Wouldn't know it, with all these secret laws and courts.

Speaking of which... Whatever happened to that Constitution paper thing, anyway? Did it go the way of the Dodo, 5-4, too?


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27. ''Trusted Former CIA Cronies''
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 09:39 AM
Mar 2012

From the war horse's mouth:

Stratfor: executive boasted of 'trusted former CIA cronies'

By Alex Spillius, Diplomatic Correspondent
9:08PM GMT 28 Feb 2012
The Telegraph

A senior executive with the private intelligence firm Stratfor boasted to colleagues about his "trusted former CIA cronies" and promised to "see what I can uncover" about a classified FBI investigation, according to emails released by the WikiLeaks.

Fred Burton, vice president of intelligence at the Texas firm, also informed members of staff that he had a copy of the confidential indictment on Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks.

The second batch of five million internal Stratfor emails obtained by the Anonymous computer hacking group revealed that the company has high level sources within the United States and other governments, runs a network of paid informants that includes embassy staff and journalists and planned a hedge fund, Stratcap, based on its secret intelligence.


Mr Assange labelled the company as a "private intelligence Enron", in reference to the energy giant that collapsed after a false accounting scandal.



Thank you, wildbilln864! Corporate McPravda has done near-zero to inform the citizenry about this important, eh, change to democracy -- Inside Trading on War Inc.


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36. Goss Knew Foggo Shared A Girlfriend With Russian Spy, But Hired Him Anyway
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 09:09 PM
Mar 2012

Thanks, Quantess.

It gets better. Ah. Worse.

Goss Knew Foggo Shared A Girlfriend With Russian Spy, But Hired Him Anyway

Zachary Roth | February 26, 2009, 4:24PM

The Dusty Foggo story has never reflected well on Porter Goss -- the man who, as CIA director, gave Foggo the number 3 job at the agency. But it looks like we didn't know the half of it.

Congressional Quarterly has a juicy scoop:

Kyle "Dusty" Foggo's CIA dossier included allegations that he was sharing a woman with a suspected Russian mole, according to a top former spy agency official and other sources.

CIA Director Porter J. Goss knew about the allegation when he hired Foggo to be the agency's executive director, its third highest official, an aide said today.

But Merrell Moorhead, an aide to Goss at the CIA from 2004 to 2006, said CIA security officials later withdrew that and other serious allegations about Foggo's record and "gave him a clean bill of health."



Too bad. Really, too bad.


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41. 'Shadow CIA' buys state secrets for cash via Swiss bank accounts...
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 08:36 PM
Mar 2012

This story has everything except legs.

'Shadow CIA' buys state secrets for cash via Swiss bank accounts, claims WikiLeaks as it releases 'stolen' files

Five million emails obtained from U.S.-based global security analysis firm Stratfor 'will reveal murky truth about intelligence gathering'

Julian Assange claims firm is monitoring activists for corporate giants and taking information from U.S. government department insider


Last updated at 8:43 PM on 27th February 2012

Whistleblowing website WikiLeaks today started to publish more than five million confidential emails from the global intelligence company Stratfor.

The emails, dated from July 2004 to late December 2011, are said to reveal the 'inner workings' of US-based firm known as the 'Shadow CIA'.

Among the allegations to emerge is that Stratfor's claim to be a media organisation providing a subscription intelligence newsletter is a front for 'running paid informants networks' and 'laundering those payments through the Bahamas, through Switzerland, through private credit cards'.


[font color="green"]The group said the emails expose a 'revolving door' in private intelligence companies in the U.S., claiming government and diplomatic sources give Stratfor advance knowledge of global politics and events in exchange for money.[/font color]



The untimely passing of a conservative disinformationist must've pushed the STRATFOR story off the front page.

Thank you for grokking, raouldukelives!


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44. Wikileaks Release Suggests Stratfor Inside Info Plan with Goldman Sachs Exec
Sun Mar 4, 2012, 11:03 PM
Mar 2012

Here's one distribution list I'd've liked to have been cc'd on.

Wikileaks Release Suggests Stratfor Inside Info Plan with Goldman Sachs Exec

By Ryan Villarreal: Subscribe to Ryan's RSS feed
February 27, 2012 6:26 PM EST

WikiLeaks released more than 5 million e-mails Monday hacked from U.S.-based global intelligence firm Strategy Forecasting Inc. (Stratfor), revealing an alleged plan between the firm's CEO and a Goldman Sachs executive to set up an investment fund that would rely on inside information gathered by the company.

A September 2011 company-wide e-mail composed by Stratfor CEO George Friedman indicates that Goldman Sachs financial adviser and former Managing Director Shea Morenz was directly involved in the establishment of the investment fund StratCap.

"Shea Morenz provided us with two opportunities," wrote Friedman.

"First, he made an investment in Stratfor designed to give us the capital needed to build our staff and our marketing. Second, he proposed a new venture, StratCap, which would allow us to utilize the intelligence we were gathering about the world in a new but related venue -- an investment fund. Where we had previously advised other hedge funds. We would now have our own, itself fully funded by Shea."



Sorry to add to the reading list, Agony, but isn't there a law against inside trading? I mean, for us little people?


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47. Manning the new age truth
Tue Jun 4, 2013, 01:30 PM
Jun 2013

The American military secrecy is parallel to the trillion dollar high stakes closed door no risk “War Adventure”.

Whereas the high rollers, politically connected media, connected industry, connected to profiteering in real money deals such as stock bond supply, and banking Federal Reserve, Treasury, IMF, World Bank, and Romney investment bankers are driving a market whether it succeeds or not.

Just as Ron Paul said the Republican Party needs to recapture their fortunes lost. So, war is the answer.

To open the dialog about the electorate, the military National Guard volunteer to risk life and limb, receive mostly little in return in comparison.

Moreover, with the obnoxious culture of torture Americans are told to endure in the name of freedom to win the war is very likely a lie during this Bush era. It is an advantage in the war business especially in the capital market place to capture and torture anyone who might be connected to big money or the political potentate. Putting a loan agreement or a territorial treaty is easier to do via torture; it can be a wining deal.

Tyranny potentates of medieval Europe tortured the rich to get money and power for centuries. In the long run it does not work in society, it definitely leads to deterioration.

Is America so sure Houston did not torture Santa Anna to win Texas? Or McCain was released so easy from the North Vietnam leadership; one should know his father was supreme commander of the navy at the time then the war winds down.

Or they blame it on Nixon to make a phony secret Pease Treaty at the Pairs talks. It’s all secret dirty blood money and American skin.

America it is a dirty wicked game our politicians and business persons should stop playing. This secret political/ banking business stuff only shows our culture of the free market place does not exist.

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