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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRalph Nader was pushing Americans Elect (updated)
Video: http://video.msnbc.msn.com/jansing-and-co/46572542/#46572542
Transcript:
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>> no, first of all, spoil ser is a politically bigoted word to use since both of to parties have spoiled our electoral and political system. i think it is competition and new ad jen das and ideas supported by a larger number of the american people like full medicare for all, and above all, it respects the voters by raising their expectation level, and that is the history of the small parties when they came on board in 19th century when they came on board for slavery and women's right to vote, and labor and improvement, and they never won an election, but they pushed the american people's party to respect the american people. and watch that website americans elect.org.
Ultimately, Americans Elect is the first nominating process that will be led directly by voters like YOU.
http://www.americanselect.org/who-we-are
Leadership (partial list)
Lynn Forester
de Rothschild
CEO, E.L. Rothschild
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Mark McKinnon
President, Maverick Media; former Advisor to President George W. Bush and Senator John McCain
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Douglas Schoen
Douglas E Schoen LLC; Author and Commentator
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Edward L. Weidenfeld
The Weidenfeld Law Firm, PC; former counsel to the Reagan Bush Campaign
Sheila Rabb Weidenfeld
President, DC Productions Ltd; Press Secretary to former First Lady Betty Ford
The Honorable
Christine Todd Whitman
Former Governor, New Jersey; President, The Whitman Strategy Group
Updtaed to add: Also note the two names names Nader mentions in the clip:
Buddy Romer:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/73226294/2012-Presidential-Candidate-Comparison-Chart
David Walker:
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Walker served as Comptroller General of the United States and head of the Government Accountability Office (GAO) from 1998 to 2008. Appointed by President Bill Clinton, his tenure as the federal government's chief auditor spanned both Democratic and Republican administrations. While at the GAO, Walker embarked on a Fiscal Wake-up Tour,[1] partnering with the Brookings Institution, the Concord Coalition, and the Heritage Foundation to alert Americans to wasteful government spending.[2] Walker left the GAO to head the Peterson Foundation on March 12, 2008.[3] Labor-management relations became fractious during Walker's nine-year tenure as comptroller general. On September 19, 2007, GAO analysts voted by a margin of two to one (897445), in a 75% turnout, to establish the first union in GAO's 86-year history.
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In 2008, Walker was personally recruited by Peter G. Peterson, co-founder of the Blackstone Group, and former Secretary of Commerce under Richard Nixon, to lead his new foundation. The Foundation distributed the documentary film, I.O.U.S.A.,[4] which follows Walker and Robert Bixby, director of the Concord Coalition, around the nation, as they engage Americans in town-hall style meetings, along with luminaries such as Warren Buffett, Alan Greenspan, Paul Volcker and Robert Rubin.
Peterson was cited by the New York Times as one of the foremost "philanthropists whose foundations are spending increasing amounts and raising their voices to influence public policy."[5] In philanthropy, Walker has advocated a more action-based approach to the traditional foundation: I do believe, however, that foundations have been very cautious and somewhat conservative about whether and to what extent they want to get involved in advocacy.[6] David Walker stepped down as President and CEO of the Peter G. Peterson Foundation on October 15, 2010 to establish his own venture, the Comeback America Initiative
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_M._Walker_(U.S._Comptroller_General)
Reminds me of when Nader threw out Bloomberg's name: http://www.politickerny.com/2011/10/11/ralph-nader-wants-mike-bloomberg-to-run-for-president/
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
MADem
(135,425 posts)The agenda is said to be slightly right of the current administration.
Makes you wonder why old "Look at MEEEEE" Ralphie is up in there....
ProSense
(116,464 posts)people Nader could have mentioned, see who he chose to name in the OP.
MADem
(135,425 posts)mentions them at about 4:55 min in the OP clip.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Absolutely indicative of a very serious and possibly world-shattering conspiracy. Certainly can't be anything else...
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"Absolutely indicative of a very serious and possibly world-shattering conspiracy."
It's indicative of who he supports, that's all.
About 5 mins. into the Roemer clip, he says:
Not my kind of candidate.
EC
(12,287 posts)is one of their candidates...how does that work? This is a group of hedgefund/moderate repubs. They are pretty much a rightwing 1% sham.
TheWraith
(24,331 posts)"This is a group of hedgefund/moderate repubs. They are pretty much a rightwing 1% sham."
...no doubt push a right-leaning candidate for 2016.
calimary
(81,222 posts)He said all he had to say to me - during Campaign 2000.
election time. Nader was bound to pop up. It's what he does.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)one of the two do you prefer: Buddy Roemer or David Walker?
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)As I did in '08 I'll be voting for the most progressive, anti-war, candidate on the ballot.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)As I did in '08 I'll be voting for the most progressive, anti-war, candidate on the ballot.
...Nader didn't mention Sanders. It's clear you don't agree with Nader in promoting Roemer or Walker as possible Americans Elect candidates.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)In the clip I watched he mentioned some names. Hardly a "promotion".
As I see it, the group is more aimed at moderates in both establishment parties than the left. Obama, rather than Nader, would be a better fit with them.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)In the clip I watched he mentioned some names. Hardly a "promotion".
As I see it, the group is more aimed at moderates in both establishment parties than the left. Obama, rather than Nader, would be a better fit with them.
...on earth would he mention them if he isn't promoting them?
The transcript is a bit messed up, but he specifially said Buddy Roemer or David Walker in the clip.
Also, you seem to misunderstand the site. The group is not pushing Obama or Sanders, their names are on the list and visitors selected them.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)So what?
So do the Republican and Democratic parties when they're running moderates. Obama is a moderate and is being promoted by the Democratic Party.
Hell, IIRC from my viewing of the clip, Nader said that the group was aimed at moderates. It seems to me, if he was promoting anything, he was promoting political diversity rather than the entrenched 2 party system that now controls the country.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)So what?
So do the Republican and Democratic parties when they're running moderates. Obama is a moderate and is being promoted by the Democratic Party.
Hell, IIRC from my viewing of the clip, Nader said that the group was aimed at moderates. It seems to me, if he was promoting anything, he was promoting political diversity rather than the entrenched 2 party system that now controls the country.
...it took a few tries, but I knew eventually the "so what?" excuse would pop up. I mean, everyone can see the similarities between "moderate" Obama and "moderate" Buddy Roemer, right?
Oh brother!
Nader is a tool!
Tarheel_Dem
(31,233 posts)playing spoiler for the Repukes, he'd be drafting and running true progressives to take over local and state legislatures, grooming them to run for national office. He's a fraud who can be counted on to pop up every four years to create a little havoc for his Republican benefactors. Fuck him and his supporters.
The good news is that we don't have to walk on eggshells around him or his supporters, because he is every bit as much a political opponent as Ron Paul and the other GOP clowns. We can cuss 'em the hell out, and keep moving.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)all you have to do is ignore the many times he pushes Conservative Democratic/Republican candidates (Bloomberg, Roemer and Walker).
I mean, he could have at least said Bernie Sanders.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,233 posts)a stealth Republican? At this point, nothing else makes sense to me. He has particular disdain for Democrats, which reminds me of a certain website which is home to a certain pedigree of "democrat". I'm sure you know the one I mean.
I think, at some point, he decided that if the Democratic Party wouldn't make him their nominee, he'd do everything in his power to destroy it. He has some really strange affiliations to say the least.
blue neen
(12,319 posts)Very interesting, indeed!