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I swear, they must've called or insinuated that the President was weak for seeking congressional approval about 10 times in the last hour. Col. Jacobs has been all over him, saying cabinet members should resign and other such nonsense. I swear I had to check the channel to make sure I wasn't listening to FOX. Jacobs kept saying this makes our military look weak. Wtf? I'd love to see the tortured logic he was following to come to that conclusion.
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,869 posts)Republicans were foaming at the mouth for Obama to authorize strikes without congressional approval. They were going to use that to impeach him. Now that they have to put their name on a strike they're pissed.
Col. Jacobs needs to shut up and let the Commander in Chief do his job. There is a reason our military is under civilian leadership.
gopiscrap
(23,766 posts)for sabatoge.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Col. Jacobs is retired, and now a military analyst for MSNBC. He has every right to express his views.
He is also a Medal of Honor recipient.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)People tune into bombs being dropped.
So the possibility it might not happen irks the executives over at msnbc.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)ForgoTheConsequence
(4,869 posts)They can put out their cute little "documentaries" in retrospect, but MSNBC pushed HARD for the Iraq war.
MSNBC at the time decided to go full-on pro-war as a ratings strategy, and so it canceled a show by liberal peacenik Phil Donahue and hired a bunch of pro-war conservatives, including a former congressman named Joe Scarborough.
http://www.salon.com/2013/03/19/msnbc_selectively_remembers_the_iraq_war/
spanone
(135,920 posts)that was yesterday, fuck the colonel
Boomerproud
(7,976 posts)Yes, fuck the colonel.
lamp_shade
(14,850 posts)a bunch of $$$ in preparation for 24/7 coverage, additional staff, coffee and donuts, etc.
malaise
(269,256 posts)and GE is a war manufacturer. It is no accident. The constitution, rule of law, international law, none of them matter to people for whom only power matters.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)doing their "unbiased" reporting.
Coverage is much better on Al Jazeera with David Schuster and Mike Vequira in spite of the fact that Qatar is backing the rebels.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)and not RT.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)this afternoon. IOW, anyone in Andrea Mitchell's address book who could be located on a Saturday.
gopiscrap
(23,766 posts)that had the President gone in there on his own these same hypocritical fuckwads would be screaming impeachment.
annabanana
(52,791 posts)They'd been under a rock for the past 10 years.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)or they were trying to milk the ratings.
Not sure how this could make our military look weak, given I'm 1/2 of a dual military couple I must say we are totally ok with this & have no desire to get involved in anymore wars.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Without going to Congress, now he is weak for not sending strikes without going to Congress. The bottom line members of Congress do not want to record their vote on the Syrian issue. If things does not go well they can still blame Obama.
gopiscrap
(23,766 posts)elfin
(6,262 posts)All about them searching for an identity that will sell to more viewers. Not a nasty article, but they have been floundering.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)Crimson76
(79 posts)BainsBane
(53,112 posts)It's much better. It's like news used to be before it got all hyped up and turned into entertainment.
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)and they are popular because of it.....
Half the time, I turn msnbc off and go to CNN. They're not for war or peace and show views of both sides....
I'm just starting to reappreciate them. I loved them when Ted Turner was in charge. Anderson Cooper could do msnbc without any mental reservatons easier than some of its hosts.
And since Erin O'Brien started having Stephanie Miller on regularly, it seems, I like Erin a lot better.
kentuck
(111,111 posts)and there are people that believe in a strong legislature. Personally, I lean toward a strong legislature.
The Executive has held incredible power since the passage of the War Powers Act. In effect, Obama is surrendering some of that power back to the legislature. Indeed, that is exactly what the founders intended.
In my opinion, those that lean toward the strong executive model are more authoritarian than the legislative model. One leans more to the democratic side and one leans more to the conservative side. But that is just my opinion...
tavernier
(12,410 posts)shaming him, mocking him, openly calling him a coward and worse.
Chuck, Andrea, the good Colonel Jacobs. bwahahahaha. And now David Gregory piling on, although he did say that Obama was holding their feet to the fire with a put up or shut up move.
Faryn Balyncd
(5,125 posts)scooter rider
(80 posts)and the oil changed on the Tahoe and someone had left the TV tuned to MSNBC. I suppose they had been watching the President's address.
Anyway I heard some of what was being said, especially that Jacobs clown, and was just sickened by it. Fortunately they have the same cable box as we have at home and I was able to switch the channel and lock it out with an app on my Samsung S4. Nobody could figure out what happened because I just looked like I was pecking away on my smartphone. I may have even heard a few murmured cheers.
I'll bet they password or pin that box from now on.
Raine
(30,541 posts)Ilsa
(61,710 posts)Blown way too many $billions on having the best military.
locks
(2,012 posts)Right time to get Al Jazeera if you can. Doing a great job with the news and in-depth coverage.