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CHURCH WALKING IN CHRIST'S FOOTSTEPS..........I THINK NOT!!!....
Kat Cooper is a detective with the Collegedale Police Department in Collegedale, Tennessee. Her family has attended the same church for three generations and because they love her, they are no longer welcome by the congregation. The Ridgedale Church of Christ discovered the Cooper family supporting Kats fight to get the city to extend government employee benefits to gays and lesbians. Kat herself is also a lesbian. So when the Ridgedale Church saw a picture of her family in attendance at the city council meeting in which the council approved the new measure, they issued the family an ultimatum: apologize in front of the congregation for not hating your lesbian daughter or be kicked out of the church.
Naturally, the Coopers chose to leave the church rather than submit to the hateful values it now practices. That seems to suit minister Ken Willis just fine. He claims that it was the duty of the church to reject the Coopers for openly standing by their daughter instead of abandoning her. In his eyes, the family should have chosen hate over love. Thats interesting, considering the fact that Jesus commands us to love our neighbors no matter what in the very Bible conservative Christians cherry-pick and misinterpret to justify their hatred of others. Church is supposed to be a place that welcomes anybody. Apparently that is no longer the case. And religious fanatics wonder why people are leaving the church in droves. Because of their un-Christian action of rejecting a family for daring to love their own daughter no matter what, the Ridgedale Church has experienced an avalanche of outrage on their Facebook page. Feel free to visit them and add your voice to the many who are calling this so-called Christian church out for their hate.
Gay rights are human rights. Homosexuals only seek the same rights heterosexuals have enjoyed for over a thousand years. They want to be able to marry their consenting partner, the person they love. Just as many heterosexual couples want religion to play a role in their marriage, the same applies to many homosexuals as well. No church that claims to practice Christian values should abandon families for loving their children, just as no church should practice hatred against homosexuals. Churches can hide behind their Bibles all they want, hate masquerading as religion is still hate. Hate, not love, should be rejected by churches. Any church that disagrees isnt a church at all.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/08/27/tennessee-church-expels-family-over-lesbian-daughter/
The sin of Kat's relatives, according to minister Ken Willis, is that of endorsing her 'lifestyle', which he says the Bible is explicit about. While Willis doesn't expect the Coopers to disown Kat, he says that while parents should still love their children they shouldn't support their sin; love the sinner, hate the sin. But it would also seem that loving a sinner is itself a sin, judging from the actions of Willis and the church authorities.
Willis insists that since Kat's actions and support from her family were made so public, they had no choice but to take action. The implication evidently is that if Kat had stayed in the closet or kept quiet about her lack of rights then the church wouldn't have had to punish her family for loving her. After 60 years, the Coopers chose to leave the church rather than repent for a sin they did not commit. Kat's mother is still driven to tears by the events, but the family remains resolute in the support of their daughter.
http://www.towleroad.com/2013/08/tennessee-church-kicks-out-family-for-supporting-lesbian-daughter.html
Sissyk
(12,665 posts)of them, is it??
They are better off not in that church, anyway. Good luck to the family and in Kat's fight for equal rights!
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)In fact, it seems that often, it's quite the opposite.
Sissyk
(12,665 posts)Not very human of them, either.
Hayduke Bomgarte
(1,965 posts)Segami
(14,923 posts)'Machine-Gun-Jesus'.........
Hayduke Bomgarte
(1,965 posts)Ten sarcasm things rather than just one?
Segami
(14,923 posts)I'm just piling onto your statement.....'their' hypocrisy has no limits.
Hayduke Bomgarte
(1,965 posts)I misunderstood.
Segami
(14,923 posts)Hayduke Bomgarte
(1,965 posts)Lithos
(26,407 posts)But for consistency sake, Jesus would be proud of this family. The Church - meh, they are hypocrites.
safeinOhio
(32,907 posts)they might as well lock the doors.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)safeinOhio
(32,907 posts)As a Secular Humanist I don't believe in the concept of sin.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)Glad we can agree.
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)Their only sensible option is to see that book for the lie it is and get out of that church.
(Well, I guess they're already out of that church, so that's a start)
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)Last edited Tue Aug 27, 2013, 01:51 PM - Edit history (1)
With labeling LGBT as "sinners." Surely you've heard more than a few spew this gem: "love the sinner, hate the sin."
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tblue37
(65,682 posts)Actually, though, I could see going into a really noisy restaurant and saying, "Love the dinner--hate the din!"
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)Well played!
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)Is that a philosophical approach to eating shellfish?
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)Thanks for the catch.
GeorgeGist
(25,329 posts)that being a lesbian is a sin.
safeinOhio
(32,907 posts)church people pick and chose as a sin to toss others out.
I've always said that if you gave me some judgmental religious person an hour and a polygraph machine I'd have them looking for new loopholes in the bible in an instant.
RC
(25,592 posts)Why would anyone care who someone else sleeps with? They're pissed because they know they have no chance with her now, or what?
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)beerandjesus
(1,301 posts)I try to be patient.... but sometimes I almost wish there were a Hell for people like this to go to.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)It's going to be FULL of them. What a paradise!
theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)The world would be so much a better place if people followed those words.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)Zorra
(27,670 posts)service provided by conservative christians.
I believe that some of them are deranged, and most of them are full of hate, and I don't want to take a chance on them poisoning me because they believe that their god commands them to kill LGBT's.
I don't use their services because I believe they will cheat me, or otherwise cause me some type of problem with a purchase in doing a service.
For example, I would never bring my car to a conservative christian mechanic for service or repair, because I believe that there is a significant risk that they would purposely damage my vehicle.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)I applaud the family for embracing their daughter in the face of this kind of exclusion. Love trumps hate.
RevStPatrick
(2,208 posts)And/or they are The Upside-Down people.
Everything they "think" and "believe" is upside-down to reality.
See?
These people have no idea what they are doing...
E-Z-B
(567 posts)Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)The Ridgedale Church of Christ would have no choice but to expel him due to his alternative lifestyle.
Stuckinthebush
(10,847 posts)Hopefully, the Coopers will find a much better place for their time, energy and money.
As for the crappy church - they have been identified as crappy and will suffer the consequences in time.
LittleGirl
(8,298 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Maybe I've just got the wrong translation.
I should consult with my friend the classic professor to find out how you say 'lifestyle' in ancient Greek.
valerief
(53,235 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)Last edited Wed Aug 28, 2013, 04:24 PM - Edit history (1)
I attended a southern baptist church(first mistake). Yes, I was a dyed in the wool evangelical christian. Not ashamed of that either. Yet when I fell in love with another christian who was of a different race than I and she I, it was the (second mistake). First we were asked not to sit together in church services. We objected(third mistake). Three strikes and you're out. The 'official' reason was then given, "some of our members are offended by your relationship". I asked. "why"? Preacher just looked at me. I knew why, I just wanted to hear him say it. I then entered another question, "if god gave miriam leprosy until she recanted her rebellion against her brother moses, she had used the fact that moses had taken a cushite(black) wife as an instigation of her jealous rebellion and god never told moses he was wrong for taking that race wife then why were we wrong?" He jumped up and shouted, "this is my church!" I jumped back, two seconds from busting his nose, "yeah that's the problem, it's your church and not god's church." My friend pulled me out of the office, I was seething. Well his church has grown into a local mega-church, so god had 'blessed' him and I guess I was wrong to love the right person at the wrong time. We were together for eighteen years. The situation above is an extenuation of that line of thinking. I want no part of bigoted, racist and close minded individuals who claim to know the love of jesus. I hope Kat's family finds another church more open to their family. I never went looking again. My religion is personal.
dembotoz
(16,892 posts)i would be proud to meet them
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)he did`t exclude anyone in that message.
they should find an accepting church or join the universalists.