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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSorry guys, we've had to scrap the Constitution because the Guardian uses cookies.
It was a good run while it lasted but since a news outlet in Great Britain began using cookies to track surfers we've been forced to abandon basic principles of human rights.
I know you'll all understand.
-the administration
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Where's my pitch fork and shotgun?
last1standing
(11,709 posts)That is the level of hatred for anyone exposing their hero.
Rex
(65,616 posts)are trying hard to make us all aardvarks! The aardvark agenda clearly makes people question the ants. Military ants.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)But you all probably knew that from the way they talk.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)Didn't "they" insist that those dirty colonial insurgents turn themselves in for Treason Against the Crown,
so they could stand them up an shoot them?
...and if the colonial insurgents did NOT turn themselves in,
they were COWARDS?
Sounds familiar to me.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)..burden I'll have to live with for the rest of my miserable and ashamed life....
bvar22
(39,909 posts)We all have our crosses we must bear, no matter how heavy or painful.
I have to drink on St Paddy's Day.
Its not a burden I chose.
It was thrust upon me as an infant.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)There's you some fuckin' ponies
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)Last edited Sun Aug 18, 2013, 12:21 AM - Edit history (1)
There used to be a Poster here on DU that had these videos. It was great.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)I can save all of that money I've been budgeting for LSD.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)And I thank you for it.
TekGryphon
(430 posts)That's from the sound track of the first Command and Conquer: Red Alert.
Loved that game, and loved the sound track
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)After all, it's not as if that's the ONLY reason the constitution has become passe.
We need look no further than--> Exhibit B - Libertarians LOVING on the constitution, and fighting tooth & nail for it.
What further evidence do we need?
It obviously just creates trouble, by getting the rabble's hopes up over-much.
PS - we may need to reconsider decriminalizing pot too, if those Libertarians keep pushing FOR legalization,
then I must be AGAINST legalization.
last1standing
(11,709 posts)I certainly don't want to do anything he would do. That would be silly.
MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)literally. very funny hehe
Autumn
(45,134 posts)I'm not computer savey at all but I know I have cookies on my computer all the time, because I get the option to delete them. Or is this another cookie?
last1standing
(11,709 posts)Since a private company based in another country uses cookies on their website we MUST abandon the Constitution. That's what I was told right her on DU.
Autumn
(45,134 posts)why some body in another country is up to no good with cookies. Somebody tried to sell you some shit huh .
last1standing
(11,709 posts)If Skinner's collecting meta data then it MUST be alright for the government to do it.
East Coast Pirate
(775 posts)DU watches us with Google cookies. Just like the NSA!
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)to spy on the American people. It's a certain kind of logic that, granted, is hard to understand, but to understand why we must give up our rights, you need to know that DU uses cookies. QED!
Does that help you at all?
last1standing
(11,709 posts)You don't need to know how it works or why we would propose such a thing. You merely have to accept that we can be trusted to work in your best interests. Even when we go on late night talk shows and lie to you, it's only to keep you safe from the nasty terrorists. Don't you know that?
You don't know how to play twelve dimensional chess, do you?
-the administration.
Autumn
(45,134 posts)kath
(10,565 posts)OP please? It sounds too good to miss!
Autumn
(45,134 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)able to recognize the 'right' way to see things and think about them. Well, think might not be the riht word, but whatever!
It seems that you still need some more of those reeducation courses. It's disturbing that you still need help to understand these things. I am proud of my success at finally understanding that I don't need to understand anything at all. I need to just 'trust and never verify'.
Lol, I can only imagine the thread that prompted this one!
Autumn
(45,134 posts)I'll send you the link
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)At least it has some entertainment value you have to admit!
Th1onein
(8,514 posts)The Guardian has unleashed it's cookies on Americans, and plus, it's only metadata and it's been going on for ages, and chess and shit!
DAMN it! Here's a blue link and just SHUT THE HELL UP! http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023477787
last1standing
(11,709 posts)We'll release your credit reports as soon as we've verified that you still live at [address redacted].
-the administration
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Milk . . .
Autumn
(45,134 posts)And now I want a cookie.
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)last1standing
(11,709 posts)Nestled in the clear mountain air of the Utah Rockies, we are a low pollution facility that keeps nearly everything 'in-house.' Our goal is to provide every American with all the cookies he/she can handle at no cost*
-the administration.
*Constitutional rights and personal privacy not included.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Kahuna
(27,313 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)It's too awful to comprehend.
last1standing
(11,709 posts)But only for recreational purposes.
-the administration
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Well sure.
last1standing
(11,709 posts)Funny enough, Pol Pot was straight edge.
You see, the NSA can be there for all your information needs.
-the administration
Autumn
(45,134 posts)I trust that Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and Hitler never used cookies. But Atilla? Atilla had to have used cookies. How else could he have twice plundered the Balkans? It had to have been by using cookies.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)joshcryer
(62,296 posts)Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Hitler, Atilla, Pinochet, Batista, they would've fucking loved the power of surveillance that the UK enjoys.
Where The Guardian resides.
Where every bit of data is likely being fed back to the NSA or some form at whim.
Puppet state of the US.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)links to follow shortly.
last1standing
(11,709 posts)It will save us the trouble of analyzing the attached data - which we already have stored in Utah.
- the administration.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)last1standing
(11,709 posts)You know all of us who believe the founding fathers knew what they were talking about are dirty Libertarians. We used to be dirty hippies but after getting promoted to the Professional Left, we became anti-tax.
uponit7771
(90,403 posts)...fear of "bad gov" and shit
No need to suspend anything
last1standing
(11,709 posts)Thanks for your cooperation.
- the administration.
uponit7771
(90,403 posts)..do they matter!?
We'll just take what a basher and an idiot say about the whole bit
last1standing
(11,709 posts)Since you want to stoop to childish insults I suppose we both should do it, right?
East Coast Pirate
(775 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)Who knew that was a bannable offense?
last1standing
(11,709 posts)I don't know why it's fine to post lies at DU but not acceptable to point out the lies - even when they're blatantly obvious, but there you have it.
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)and i use chrome that has a easy custom and control panel.
tracking surfers? jesus h christ what will google think of next!
last1standing
(11,709 posts)We're merely watching over you as you surf for your own protection. You wouldn't want a mean old terrorist poking you on Facebook, now, would you?
Think of us as that kindly old man down the street your parents won't let you visit even though he has all the best candy. You don't have to visit us, we're already here. Isn't that better?
-the administration.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)last1standing
(11,709 posts)And you already knew about that five years ago. We have your emails to prove it.
Please stand by for a remote controlled visitation.
-the administration
drm604
(16,230 posts)What does the Guardian using cookies have to do with the Constitution?
In any case, you can delete cookies or even refuse them outright. Just use Firefox with the right plugins.
last1standing
(11,709 posts)The answer should be obvious!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023477787
How can you read that and not understand that the Constitution is now obsolete?
-the administration.
drm604
(16,230 posts)The browser plugin mentioned in that article, Ghostery, will block tracking cookies, so anyone who's concerned about that type of tracking can prevent it.
As the OP is sarcastically pointing out, the fact that The Guardian uses tracking cookies does not in any way absolve the NSA. I'm not even sure that you can accuse Greenwald of hypocrisy, since he may not even be aware of how The Guardian uses cookies.
RetroLounge
(37,250 posts)makes Sense...
RL
last1standing
(11,709 posts)The first thing each of us sees every morning is that glistening, chiseled, torso dripping with water and sunlight....
*Ahem* Excuse me. Did I mention that a jpeg of Bo is our screen saver?
-the administration
kath
(10,565 posts)Last edited Sun Aug 18, 2013, 03:44 AM - Edit history (1)
dreamy photo!
Best administration evah!!
last1standing
(11,709 posts)Your tax dollars at work!
-the administration
kath
(10,565 posts)I wanna have a poster of it on the ceiling over my bed.
last1standing
(11,709 posts)Don't worry, we have the address.
-the administration.
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)last1standing
(11,709 posts)n/t
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)With Warm Regards,
Third-Way Manny
last1standing
(11,709 posts)You should have been on this hours ago. It might actually have been funny if you had.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Especially since I just read the original thread and now I understand, DU and The Guardian use Cookies and therefore we need to ignore the Constitution.
It's so simple when you don't let your mind wander, or better yet, if you don't HAVE a mind!
last1standing
(11,709 posts)On some of the worst days at DU, it's still worth it to come here and read his threads.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)last1standing
(11,709 posts)I'm trying to learn from the best.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)And the mockgasm of threads is fitting, proper, and highly entertaining.
Autumn
(45,134 posts)If the administration and Third -Way Manny were to team up it will break DU.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Wait, it's so confusing. Are they both on the same 'team'? Or is one a Paulbotite and the other the Third Way? What's the difference?
It's all so confusing which is why it's probably best to just not think about it and just agree that we must get rid of the Constitution, it's just a 'Quaint old document' anyhow.
Or was that what Bush said? Because I know we are are not, no way, Bush supporting morons are we?
Lol!
Autumn
(45,134 posts)Paulbots, libertarian and Greenwald, oh my. Yes, let us burn the witch, it's just a piece of god damn paper anyway.
oops, did that last part make me look like a Bush supporting moron ?
last1standing
(11,709 posts)You can trust us.
-the administration
East Coast Pirate
(775 posts)so he jumped on it. Or he thought you said he could be the Boy Wonder. Or maybe he imagined that. Being delusional is in now.
last1standing
(11,709 posts)I have to admit, I LOVE the shorts.
NealK
(2,013 posts)That thread is hilarious.
last1standing
(11,709 posts)Now stop browsing for porn and finish that email you were writing to your Aunt Louise. Our records show she hasn't heard from you in two weeks.
-the administration
Summer Hathaway
(2,770 posts)here on DU, attempting to connect the dots - dots that are literally light-years apart, and have absolutely no bearing on each other whatsoever.
But I must applaud this stretch as being one of the most imaginative I've seen here in a while.
It is at once laughably absurd, and ridiculously transparent in its rather idiotic attempt to somehow rally the usual suspects into communal laughter - even though they don't get the joke.
And therein lies its pitiable magic - for those who really don't know that the quarter was in Uncle Bob's hand all along, and didn't actually come out of their ear.
last1standing
(11,709 posts)Certainly no one at DU ever suggested anything so silly as this thread suggests.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023477787
Certainly no one would ever equate a private company's business practices in another country with our government's requirement to follow our Constitution.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023477787
Of course there's absolutely nothing to see here. Everyone should start minding their own business and let us mind that you're minding.
We need more agents *ahem* right minded citizens such as yourself.
-the administration
Summer Hathaway
(2,770 posts)points out the fact that "The Guardian embedded 27 tracking bugs inside Greenwald's article."
Hey, facts are facts. And that particular fact shouldn't be surprising to anyone who is even remotely aware of how the internetz works.
However, trying to turn that fact into the notion that "since a news outlet in Great Britain began using cookies to track surfers we've been forced to abandon basic principles of human rights" is as ridiculous as it gets.
The idea that you don't even realize how ridiculous it is - well, that speaks for itself.
last1standing
(11,709 posts)Thank you for understanding, citizen.
-the administration
Summer Hathaway
(2,770 posts)has nothing to do with the Constitution - in fact, it has nothing to do with anything.
"We've had to scrap the Constitution because the Guardian uses cookies."
Is that actually supposed to mean something?
Oh, and just as a side note - your signing of your posts as "-the administration" is not only indicative of your political and personal immaturity, it is demonstrative of your complete inability to add two and two - and come up with anything less than eleven.
last1standing
(11,709 posts)-the administration.
Summer Hathaway
(2,770 posts)Go back to connecting the dots between The Guardian using cookies and Americans being forced to scrap the Constitution as a result thereof.
That premise is at least entertaining. Your tinfoil-hattery, on the other hand, is - well, okay, that's pretty entertaining, too!
Either way, you're laughable - and you don't even seem to know it.
last1standing
(11,709 posts)It has definitely become a cruel joke, hasn't it?
-the administration
Summer Hathaway
(2,770 posts)is when someone thinks the world is laughing with them, because they are too stupid to realize that the world is laughing at them.
last1standing
(11,709 posts)You're batting 1000 tonight.
-the administration
Summer Hathaway
(2,770 posts)your intellectual analysis of how we've had to scrap the Constitution because the Guardian uses cookies.
It's such an astute observation - I'm rather surprised that you didn't expand on your hypothesis.
last1standing
(11,709 posts)We've seen how you support the administration at all costs and greatly approve.
-the administration.
Summer Hathaway
(2,770 posts)Don't be like all the rest - those who, when challenged, change the subject.
I am fascinated with your notion that The Guardian using cookies means we are being forced to scrap the Constitution!
You seem to believe you've "connected the dots" to prove your assertion. DO GO ON.
last1standing
(11,709 posts)And we have no idea of these "cookies" you speak of. We're not even here, ourselves.
-the administration
Summer Hathaway
(2,770 posts)with the toddler seated in front of you on a long flight?
You tire of the game at exactly the point you realize that they're willing to play for hours - and hours, and hours, and hours.
I kind of feel like that now.
last1standing
(11,709 posts)We hope it all makes sense, now.
-the administration
Summer Hathaway
(2,770 posts)I am busy knitting shrouds.
last1standing
(11,709 posts)We prefer you not worry - unless we need you to worry, of course.
Remain blissful.
-the administration
Summer Hathaway
(2,770 posts)I'm not the type who worries on command. Or in lockstep.
last1standing
(11,709 posts)By the way, we need to close a dozen or so embassies for a month or so because of TERROR!!!!!!
Not to worry you, of course.
-the administration
Summer Hathaway
(2,770 posts)to invoke the specter of TERROR!!!!! here on DU.
You need only to plant the idea that the Big Bad Gov't is reading all of your emails, is listening in on your phone calls, and is reading your thoughts as you type them.
Mayhem will inevitably ensue.
It's a show that has its moments - but overall, it lacks credibility, the plot is weak, and the characters are one-dimensional and buried under worn-out cliches.
last1standing
(11,709 posts)Thank you for your help in spreading the non-word.
-the administration
NealK
(2,013 posts)We indubitably need more like them, they raise the comedic value of the site. I will now be on my way to get a new keyboard.
joshcryer
(62,296 posts)You'd get a real laugh out of them.
last1standing
(11,709 posts)-the administration
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)joshcryer
(62,296 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023047818
last1standing
(11,709 posts)So long as you hold the key.
-the administration
ProSense
(116,464 posts)last1standing
(11,709 posts)That's all you need to know, citizen.
-the administration
ProSense
(116,464 posts)I suspect the outrage over cookies doesn't mean people want to "scrap the Constitution," huh?
last1standing
(11,709 posts)We didn't want to have to abandon over 200 years of basic human rights but you can see now that we were forced to do it.
Damn that Greenwald! He destroyed America!!!!!!!!!
-the administration
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Nope.
last1standing
(11,709 posts)Thank you for your support.
-the administration
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Snark FAIL.
Wonder why?
Firefox browser to move ahead with Do Not Track option
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023047818
last1standing
(11,709 posts)Thanks for pointing it out. There is nothing to see here. This thread never even happened.
-the administration
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Clearly, the Founders did not anticipate cookies. So unless you believe that original intent argle-bargle, the only reasonable conclusion is to put into place a few common-sense measures to ensure our freedoms, including scrapping the Constitution.
Make No Mistake... Only by scrapping the Constitution can we strengthen the Constitution.
joshcryer
(62,296 posts)Long live the corporatocracy!
(And yes, this is my single biggest issue with the Paulites, because they simply are for the greatest surveillance state known to man.)
Can't I be against corporate spying and government spying?
last1standing
(11,709 posts)Sure some would say that it just might be better to limit spying by corporations as well as the government but doesn't that sound difficult and time consuming? wouldn't it be better to let us take care of everything for you? Wouldn't you like more time to spend with your family on Skype?
-the administration
joshcryer
(62,296 posts)Unlike cowardly Libertarians who can't actually stand for anything and deflect and infiltrate progressive circles in order to mislead and divide and conquer.
Corporations are the ones who need to be limited because they're the ones who infiltrated the government. NSA is 75% corporate controlled. Make them liable, make them have to come clean, the lawsuits will be enormous. But oh no, Obama voted for FISA, giving telecoms immunity. But we forget about that and pretend like we didn't know that our politics are infiltrated from the top to bottom by corporate lobbyists and their lackeys.
last1standing
(11,709 posts)We haven't even gotten our AT&T logo T-shirts in yet.
-the administration
joshcryer
(62,296 posts)The requisite politicians were convinced by the lobbyists that said corporations would do the government some good. This is why 75% of NSA operations are outsourced by corporations.
And it's why 60% of Booz Allen employees voted for FISA voting Obama.
last1standing
(11,709 posts)And even if it were, it's classified.
And even if it wasn't classified, the number is more like 72% so you must be derided as a liar and we will need to suggest that you're a traitorous hypocrite with a stripper girlfriend.
All in a day's work.
-the administration
joshcryer
(62,296 posts)last1standing
(11,709 posts)It also shows that Hoffa is buried under a mountain of irony.
-the administration
joshcryer
(62,296 posts)last1standing
(11,709 posts)And after that, INFINITY... AND BEYOND!!!
-the administration
joshcryer
(62,296 posts)We're almost there!
last1standing
(11,709 posts)Not that we're spying. We're only looking out for your best interests - one IP tracker at a time.
-the administration
joshcryer
(62,296 posts)I don't have to ignore it, they'll make it known.
And they'll laugh about it because they know they'll get a pass when corporations (edit: like The Guardian, with its tracking cookies) do it for them.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)I have NEVER said this on DU before: DUzy!!!!
Perfect response!
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Almost as good as the Moscow street map showing Pres Maduro's flight to Bolivia.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)how ridiculous their arguments are.
It makes you wonder whether they do it knowingly or whether they truly are that ignorant.
last1standing
(11,709 posts)These people aren't even trying to win on logic, they're just trying to beat us down with propaganda tactics. Diversion, lies and dehumanization is all they have.
You can't discuss issues with people who don't really care about the issues. All you can do is expose them to daylight.
Pholus
(4,062 posts)Making not one, but two high profile interlocutors walk away muttering (while softly crying to themselves).
This was a work of art. Thank you!
joshcryer
(62,296 posts)Or are you too cowardly to do so?
I personally do not like to be in the presence of "interlocutors" if someone can legitimately provide data to prove their status.
Pholus
(4,062 posts)And, I believe, grounds for an alert.
What has you so upset about my usage of the term "interlocutor?" While there may be other accepted definitions, my usage merely represents a person who takes part in a conversation. A conversationalist.
Unlike some parties, I am not even redefining an existing term to mean something else entirely, something actually completely opposite.
Oh you know, like the terms "collect," "relevant," "content," "Surveillance" and "Conversation" for starters.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)Zorra
(27,670 posts)This'll shoul silence those dirty liberal racist traitor Paulite Greenwald worshiping Snowdenistas once and for all.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)I was waiting for this smackdown. Kudos to you for coming through!