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Boomer

(4,176 posts)
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 02:19 PM Jul 2013

Security checkpoint at the movie theater

My partner and I left the house this afternoon to see Wolverine, but we had one qualm about this plan; the last time we'd been to the movies at this particular theater complex, we'd had our purses searched. This change in process caught us by surprise, with tickets in hand, so we went through that security check as requested, but this time around we weren't so eager to repeat that exercise.

On the face of it -- as blandly iterated by the theater manager -- this policy is about checking bags for weapons to ensure a safer experience for customers. In truth, it's nonsense. Men are the most likely people to carry guns and shoot-up an establishment and they're far more likely to stick a gun in a pocket of their cargo pants than in a man-purse. The most violent movie incident in Aurora, Colorado involved a man with assault rifles entering through an exit door. Checking women's purses is not an effective policy; it's just a token (and somewhat discriminatory) gesture to create an illusion of safety while furthering a very real erosion of personal privacy.

Beyond that inane illusion of saftey, however, is yet another creeping normalization of "Your papers, please" authoritarian control of our daily lives. Our gun culture resists any kind of regulation of our freedom to own weapons, but then meekly bows down to the checkpoints against gun violence that permeate our participation in community activities.

This is ultimately what my partner and I were objecting to: the normalization of authoritarian control that numbs everyone to a process that can slide into crowd-control with less sterling motivations than protecting us from the violence of unbalanced individuals.

The larger context was emphasized this morning, before we even left for the theater, as we listened to Diane Feinstein discuss Snowden on a news program. Without even blinking at the screaming irony of her own statements, Feinstein spoke somberly about our reassurances to Russia that we would not torture or kill Snowden, and that she felt as a former KGB agent, Putin would most assuredly understand the United States' concern over Snowden's actions.

When we've reached the point where we count on the shared understanding of the KGB to act in our national interest, we have blatantly and openly admitted that we are a fascist state.

Welcome to the American Homeland.

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Security checkpoint at the movie theater (Original Post) Boomer Jul 2013 OP
+1 Liberal_in_LA Jul 2013 #1
The real goal is crass profits... They don't want you sneaking in food and drink-- hlthe2b Jul 2013 #2
That did occur to me, but... Boomer Jul 2013 #5
You are absolutely correct. HeiressofBickworth Jul 2013 #55
10 years ago, after 911, I knew it was security theater nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #3
Why have we, as a society, come to accept this? theHandpuppet Jul 2013 #9
Because people are afraid nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #13
They're actually looking for video cameras. X_Digger Jul 2013 #4
They're not searching Joe theHandpuppet Jul 2013 #12
Joe's HD camera & mount won't fit in his pants, but it will fit in Jane's bag. X_Digger Jul 2013 #16
Then by all means, if that's what they're worried about... theHandpuppet Jul 2013 #18
I don't visit movie theaters anymore. X_Digger Jul 2013 #23
It has nothing to do with safety, everything to do with concession sales Bjorn Against Jul 2013 #6
Apparently my experience was different than yours. Mr. David Jul 2013 #7
if you don't want to pay the prices, just don't buy anything. solves that problem nt msongs Jul 2013 #8
People are rude. n-t Logical Jul 2013 #10
I'd mentioned here about a year ago how I had to go through a TSA screening... Buns_of_Fire Jul 2013 #11
Probably the same number of buses... theHandpuppet Jul 2013 #14
Did they have a check point at the rear exits too, to catch the AR-15 coming in the Back. bahrbearian Jul 2013 #15
They were doing that 20 years ago in the cities. BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #17
I want all your bags checked, and your persons too.. HipChick Jul 2013 #19
just stay home if you're so scared HiPointDem Jul 2013 #21
Or stay home if you are bothered by every search treestar Jul 2013 #41
papers please, papers please, say all 'good democrats' HiPointDem Jul 2013 #43
One of the worst massacres in the U.S. happened at a McDonalds theHandpuppet Jul 2013 #44
I think we should be frisked every time we enter any public or private building. Because a shootout HiPointDem Jul 2013 #56
And breathalyzers, too theHandpuppet Jul 2013 #58
yes! breathalyzers! and pee tests, since people could be on PCP or bath salts or something HiPointDem Jul 2013 #62
Would you prefer we all be frisked or scanned? theHandpuppet Jul 2013 #24
Not sure if you're serious or not... Bay Boy Jul 2013 #37
+Infinity! - nt HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #57
kr. goal is for everyone to cower at home in front of their monitors, isolated & powerless. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #20
All our rights can be violated so that the second amendment goons malaise Jul 2013 #22
This is a result of rampant gun carrying in public mick063 Jul 2013 #25
Wow. theHandpuppet Jul 2013 #26
I understand your position mick063 Jul 2013 #28
Okay... gotcha. theHandpuppet Jul 2013 #34
If only I could believe this would help Boomer Jul 2013 #39
Point well taken mick063 Jul 2013 #45
nice try olddots Jul 2013 #51
How can such checkpoints really be for security if they are not giving TSA-type feel-ups? AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #27
Because you're probably not going to strap a box of Milk Duds to your inner thigh. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2013 #42
Another example of what gun cultists/nuts have done to our society. Hoyt Jul 2013 #29
Simple solution: don't go to that theater anymore. Let management know why. FSogol Jul 2013 #30
So did they search your purses? SheilaT Jul 2013 #31
Yes, they did a search through our purses theHandpuppet Jul 2013 #32
Write letters and don't go back until they change the policy. SheilaT Jul 2013 #35
West Virginia theHandpuppet Jul 2013 #36
Oh, I know. Old Lesbians SheilaT Jul 2013 #40
Betcha some people didn't realize... theHandpuppet Jul 2013 #46
Hired? If he was relishing it, he might have been a volunteer. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #48
Be glad you didn't work for the Boardwalk Hotel and Casino (now City Center) on the Vegas strip... Systematic Chaos Jul 2013 #33
It's a private business treestar Jul 2013 #38
Probably just a good excuse to check for snacks n/t freeplessinseattle Jul 2013 #47
Perhaps customers should demand to see that the doors are inaccesible from outside SoCalDem Jul 2013 #49
They would check a woman's purse but not a man's backpack? Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #50
Not quite what we said Boomer Jul 2013 #52
So Disney is equally bad. Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #53
Years ago I had a friend who worked at the same place I did Politicalboi Jul 2013 #54
I would refuse. Apophis Jul 2013 #59
Yep, we did. theHandpuppet Jul 2013 #60
Good job. Apophis Jul 2013 #61

hlthe2b

(102,979 posts)
2. The real goal is crass profits... They don't want you sneaking in food and drink--
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 02:23 PM
Jul 2013

No, one can't bring in a small bottle of water.. You must pay $4.50 for some aspartame or HFCS-containing CRAP.

I carry a small insulated thermos bottle with a pop-up lid with iced tea--and if asked will tell them it is my medication that must be consumed on time and kept cool. I'm betting they won't want a scene over that, but who knows.

Boomer

(4,176 posts)
5. That did occur to me, but...
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 02:30 PM
Jul 2013

Even if the "real" motivation for the policy is grounded in self-interest over refreshment profits, theater management is riding the coattails of general security-checkpoint paranoia.

That they can do this without substantive pushback is a very real change in American culture and attitudes. My partner and I are both approaching age 60, and we've seen the rising tide of authoritarianism over the course of decades. This is not the America of our childhood, but it IS the America that current generations take for granted.

I'm sure the movie industry isn't the least bit worried about losing two infrequent patrons well outside their prime demograthic. The rest of their target audience raises no objections and accepts security checkpoints as business as usual.

This will not end well.

HeiressofBickworth

(2,682 posts)
55. You are absolutely correct.
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 09:33 PM
Jul 2013

When the hockey games were played at the Key Arena in Seattle, purses and bags were searched. I called it (loudly at times) a Vendor's Search. There was a large garbage bin at the end of the table that contained the water, pop, candy, etc that was confiscated. We thwarted their scheme by putting our food in coat pockets -- they only searched purses and bags, not coats. While they said it was for the safety of the fans, I realized the scam when I learned that a person I know carried a gun to the games. Granted he is a police officer, but he was in plain clothes, his gun was never discovered and he never declared it.

Unfortunately, I had to give up my 17-year season tickets when the team moved to an arena that is an hour and a half drive from home. I don't think the cop goes to any games any more either. But I'll just bet the Vendor's Search is still going on at the games.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
3. 10 years ago, after 911, I knew it was security theater
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 02:26 PM
Jul 2013

When a week into the mess I called the cops for an abandoned package at the retaining wall of a mall.

The mall security were apoplectic.

10 years ago hardening movie theaters by having armed security and equal security checks would have made some sense from a security stand point. Local county fair had metal detectors that were not connected, so you could bring anything, and knives are not allowed, but are sold inside.

This is why I call all this pure security theater, and normalization.

Another step they should have taken, never did...get rid of all the big blue mail boxes that can receive a largish package. (Every so often pipe bombs go in there)

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
9. Why have we, as a society, come to accept this?
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 02:41 PM
Jul 2013

To preface this, my partner wrote the OP.

I think the other folks in the theater today thought we were nuts for even objecting to a search. Never mind that the search itself focusing solely on women (although the manager said that any men carrying purses would also be searched -- yeah, right, we have lots of metrosexuals here in rural WV) and there are plenty of men around these parts who wear those cargo shorts with huge pockets or who are openly toting guns. Why do so many people submit to these searches, for ANY reason? Much less under the pretense of "security". It doesn't really matter if they are being searched for candy or bombs, people. Why aren't women refusing to be searched? Why are men standing by letting the women in their lives be subjected to humiliating searches of their person? There seem to be a lot of folks here who are missing the point.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
13. Because people are afraid
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 02:51 PM
Jul 2013

And it is inversely proportional as to how likely you are to be a target.

My brother lives in Cleveland, hardly a target...he's afraid of them terrorists. We live in San Diego, south of Los Angeles. LA is a first priority target for terrorists, economic center, Hollywood and all that. We live in a secondary target for terrorists and at least eight nukes are targeted at San Diego in case of Nuclear war. The best we register are off duty cops at some theaters. And they tried that, at least hubby and I walk out and never come back.

Cleveland does not even register on anybody's primary or secondary list.

I remember having that talk with a Marine Colonel in Honolulu, over coffee...again, Honolulu is a primary target in wartime...HQ for PacFleet...and we did see milk shortages after 911, among other shortages.

Hawaiians...meh, his family in Missouri, small town, just off the interstate, were terrified.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
4. They're actually looking for video cameras.
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 02:30 PM
Jul 2013

Can't have Joe Schmoe downloading a blockbuster from a torrent, nosiree-bob.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
12. They're not searching Joe
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 02:51 PM
Jul 2013

They're searching Jane's purse. Only women are being searched. Never mind that Joe could easily slip a camera or a candy bar or a gun into his cargo pants. All someone has to do is bleat "terror!" and we surrender.

This acceptance of being searched or under surveillance as a part of everyday life frightens me. That so many folks seem to be missing the point makes me realize that we are slipping farther and faster into fascism than we could ever have imagined.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
16. Joe's HD camera & mount won't fit in his pants, but it will fit in Jane's bag.
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 03:21 PM
Jul 2013

They're not worried about cellphone cams, they're worried about handycams and a desktop tripod.

The last time I went to a theater, about 1/3 of the way in, an employee slipped in to stand right beside the screen and look through one of those night vision monoculars- many video cameras use an IR LED to auto-focus, and they're very visible to anyone with a camera that doesn't have an IR filter.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
18. Then by all means, if that's what they're worried about...
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 03:58 PM
Jul 2013

Let them search all women who simply want to spend an easy afternoon at the theatre. Whether you're a girl of 7 or a matron of 70, it doesn't matter. There will always be some excuse to surrender even more of your dignity and liberty. There are apparently plenty of folks in this country of ours who see nothing wrong with this yet cannot see how the slow erosion of personal liberties is reshaping this country into something unrecognizable to myself and my partner, but perhaps more familiar to those who lived through McCarthyism or the rise of fascism in Europe.
Love the gun, but beware old lesbians carrying purses.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
23. I don't visit movie theaters anymore.
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 04:05 PM
Jul 2013

I quit going because of the morons who can't put their phones away, the assholes who keep talking, the dipshit behind me who can't sit still and keeps kicking my chair, or the parent who can't deal with their kid.

Never mind the obscene prices for junk food.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
6. It has nothing to do with safety, everything to do with concession sales
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 02:31 PM
Jul 2013

They don't want people sneaking snacks in because they want to charge you $5.00 for a box of candy that sells for $1.00 at the corner store.

 

Mr. David

(535 posts)
7. Apparently my experience was different than yours.
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 02:32 PM
Jul 2013

I was allowed to sneak in candy from a store next door and could have easily brought in a cheaper Diet Coke ($4.50 for a SMALL one at a theater. I knew it was a ripoff, but that's a RIPOFF!!!!)

Took my son last Saturday to see "Turbo" and it was his first movie experience.

That was in Cherry Creek Mall....

Buns_of_Fire

(17,295 posts)
11. I'd mentioned here about a year ago how I had to go through a TSA screening...
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 02:49 PM
Jul 2013
...at a Greyhound bus station. I'd mentioned to the people there at the time that I sure felt grateful for the added security, knowing how many buses had been driven into buildings. I found out that TSA folks are not really appreciative of sarcasm.

They're here, They're there, They're everywhere... So beware!

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
14. Probably the same number of buses...
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 02:52 PM
Jul 2013

... used to terrorize America as there are 60 year old lesbians with bombs in their purses. (us)

BumRushDaShow

(131,746 posts)
17. They were doing that 20 years ago in the cities.
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 03:29 PM
Jul 2013

Metal detectors and bag searches. I refused to go to those theaters anymore.

Yet the suburbanites had no outrage because it was the "inner city"... This was under Clinton "Crime Bill" days.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
19. I want all your bags checked, and your persons too..
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 03:59 PM
Jul 2013

I have the right to watch a movie without being shot #OnlyInAmerica

treestar

(82,383 posts)
41. Or stay home if you are bothered by every search
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 04:51 PM
Jul 2013

There was a shoot up in a movie theater.

There were some in schools, so is it wrong to have security there, too?

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
44. One of the worst massacres in the U.S. happened at a McDonalds
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 05:06 PM
Jul 2013

Shall we all submit to searches anytime we want some fries? Any public or private space? Fear is expansive. Just where do you draw the line?

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
- Benjamin Franklin

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
56. I think we should be frisked every time we enter any public or private building. Because a shootout
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 11:39 PM
Jul 2013

could occur at any time.

Also when we enter any city, & at random traffic stops as well.

Better be safe than sorry.

Frisk me at the grocery store; frisk me at mcdonald's; frisk me at the theater, at the spa, at work, at the hotel, at the department store, at the post office -- anything can happen at any time. it's a jungle out there.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
58. And breathalyzers, too
Mon Jul 29, 2013, 12:04 AM
Jul 2013

Since the average citizen is much more likely to be killed/injured by a drunk driver than a terrorist or lone gunman, I think it would be wise to administer mandatory breathalyzer tests for anyone exiting a tavern or restaurant. There are just so many things to be scared of I don't know where to begin! Consider...

The following ratios were compiled using data from 2004 National Safety Council Estimates, a report based on data from The National Center for Health Statistics and the U.S. Census Bureau. In addition, 2003 mortality data from the Center for Disease Control was used.

-- You are 17,600 times more likely to die from heart disease than from a terrorist attack
-- You are 12,571 times more likely to die from cancer than from a terrorist attack
-- You are 11,000 times more likely to die in an airplane accident than from a terrorist plot involving an airplane
-- You are 1048 times more likely to die from a car accident than from a terrorist attack
--You are 404 times more likely to die in a fall than from a terrorist attack
-- You are 87 times more likely to drown than die in a terrorist attack
-- You are 13 times more likely to die in a railway accident than from a terrorist attack
--You are 12 times more likely to die from accidental suffocation in bed than from a terrorist attack
--You are 9 times more likely to choke to death on your own vomit than die in a terrorist attack
--You are 8 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than by a terrorist
--You are 8 times more likely to die from accidental electrocution than from a terrorist attack
-- You are 6 times more likely to die from hot weather than from a terrorist attack

SOURCE: The Progressive Review - See more at: http://newsblaze.com/story/20090221100148tsop.nb/topstory.html#sthash.PeitNnwA.dpuf

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
62. yes! breathalyzers! and pee tests, since people could be on PCP or bath salts or something
Mon Jul 29, 2013, 02:17 AM
Jul 2013

that would make them go suddenly crazy and start attacking people and eating them.

and that would be horrible. eating people at a movie.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
24. Would you prefer we all be frisked or scanned?
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 04:06 PM
Jul 2013

Or we could all bring along a psych evaluation while we're at it.

Bay Boy

(1,689 posts)
37. Not sure if you're serious or not...
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 04:46 PM
Jul 2013

...but I'm not sure what you gain by having a full security check prior to going into a movie theater. All it would do is move the event (whatever the bad guy has in mind) to outside the secured check area.

malaise

(270,638 posts)
22. All our rights can be violated so that the second amendment goons
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 04:03 PM
Jul 2013

can buy guns without background checks.
Enough is fucking enough!

 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
25. This is a result of rampant gun carrying in public
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 04:14 PM
Jul 2013

I am for this security checkpoint.

If for any other reason, it drives home the point of what we must collectively sacrifice for those that wish to tote their firepower in public. Indeed, I would like to see searches in almost every public venue. Only when a large number of people are directly impacted by our crazy gun laws will there be proper attention given to effective gun control measures.


Time to do some root cause analysis. Theatre checkpoints are merely a symptom.

 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
28. I understand your position
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 04:23 PM
Jul 2013

I believe that only through public anger will we see change. Large numbers of folks need to be inconvenienced to stimulate change.

The anger will lead to eventual elimination of checkpoints via effective gun control.

I personally believe that DUI checkpoints are more invasive.

If we are a "fear based" society, let me declare that my fear of getting shot in a theater by a psycho is exponentially higher than getting maimed from a pressure cooker bomb. So exactly what is the government doing to protect me from this psycho "terrorism"? If government fails to resolve this, then I'm depending on theatre management to do the government's work.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
34. Okay... gotcha.
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 04:42 PM
Jul 2013

I had initially misinterpreted your response but agree with what you're saying. My bad.

Boomer

(4,176 posts)
39. If only I could believe this would help
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 04:50 PM
Jul 2013

>> The anger will lead to eventual elimination of checkpoints via effective gun control.

Judging from the comments in this thread alone, the anger will be minimal and the checkpoints will expand. Look at all the posts that focus on shrugging off the searches as nothing more than management focused on candy sales. That may well be true -- motivations are always a black box -- but it does not make the searches any more acceptable to me; if anything, it makes them less palatable. The American culture of authoritarianism and crowd-control is growing. The appropriation of such searches for petty commercialism should demand MORE pushback, not less. Yet people seemed innured to the existence of the intrusion and are only minimally interested in discussing the possible motivations for it.

This to me is the core issue: we have accepted "safety measures" under the threat of terrorism and in response to mass-murder sprees and have now descended to accepting them for any reason at all.

 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
45. Point well taken
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 05:08 PM
Jul 2013

But don't confuse my point with considering checkpoints as acceptable. This isn't government search mind you. This is a theatre attempting to create a family environment.

I just think checkpoints are more acceptable than a guy walking into a theatre with a concealed gun.

Sort of like the argument that we must accept what the Democratic Party has become due to fear of what the Republicans might potentially do. Actually no difference. A quite good analogy I would say. Just be quiet and accept the search. Just think of what a pistol packer might do if we let him in. The bottom line is that I need to feel safe.




The root cause is gun control. Everyone knows it. But the "centrist" policy of gun "freedom" dictates we must accept the search. Now we will see which way the scale tips. Do the majority of Americans prefer to be continuously searched or do they prefer to pack a pistol?

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
27. How can such checkpoints really be for security if they are not giving TSA-type feel-ups?
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 04:20 PM
Jul 2013

Of course, maybe they'll increase their "security" in the future.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
42. Because you're probably not going to strap a box of Milk Duds to your inner thigh.
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 04:56 PM
Jul 2013

This isn't about security, it's about using security as an excuse to protect the sale of five dollar candy bars.

FSogol

(45,692 posts)
30. Simple solution: don't go to that theater anymore. Let management know why.
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 04:25 PM
Jul 2013

Linking it to Snowden or a comment on the American Homeland? Completely co-co for coca puffs territory, IMO. They are simply trying to keep outside food and drinks outside.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
31. So did they search your purses?
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 04:34 PM
Jul 2013

My local chain did that for a week or so after Aurora, and I wrote a scathing LTTE pointing out that no guns were smuggled inside purses for that mass shooting.

If any theaters are still pulling that crap in the name of security, don't go and write LTTEs as well as to the chain itself and local management of said chain so that they understand exactly why you won't be going until they change that idiotic policy.

Not to mention, the unfortunate kid who is the one taking tickets and being required to "search" purses, has probably had zero training. What exactly is that unfortunate supposed to do if he sees a gun in a purse?

My local theater chain changed their policy inside a week or two.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
32. Yes, they did a search through our purses
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 04:40 PM
Jul 2013

And they had hired an older man to do nothing but search purses. He seemed to relish going through them, too. It was creepy and embarrassing.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
35. Write letters and don't go back until they change the policy.
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 04:44 PM
Jul 2013

What happened a year ago in Colorado was because back doors to the theater are or at least were easily accessible.

Where do you live, if I might ask?

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
36. West Virginia
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 04:46 PM
Jul 2013

Small town WV. No doubt at the top of the domestic terrorism target list. Or maybe they're just profiling old lesbians as potential terrorists.

Systematic Chaos

(8,601 posts)
33. Be glad you didn't work for the Boardwalk Hotel and Casino (now City Center) on the Vegas strip...
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 04:41 PM
Jul 2013

...back in 2002.

They decided that the best way to ensure safety for their lowlife, scum-sucking lowball guests was to have the cars of all employees -- but not the guests -- searched on some major holiday. I think it was New Years' Eve but now I'm not sure. It also may have been July 4th, but at any rate it was one of the days when they close the strip at night for fireworks and mass partying.

Anywho, I do remember for a fact that there was like a four day period -- including the day in which I had to allow my own car to be searched -- when there was a big van parked in the garage, somewhat crookedly and off in a corner of one of the middle floors, which never seemed to move. It had a dirty (even creepy, and I was not the only employee who felt that way) look about it, which just elicited a feeling of unease and suspicion. I asked security what they thought of that vehicle, and they couldn't provide anything in the way of an answer.

Mystery Security Theater 3000 is right!

treestar

(82,383 posts)
38. It's a private business
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 04:49 PM
Jul 2013

and I can see being concerned about the movie theater shoot up, and not being discriminatory against men by assuming they are the only ones that could be guilty.

If there are theaters that don't do it, patronize them, that's the answer.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
49. Perhaps customers should demand to see that the doors are inaccesible from outside
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 08:01 PM
Jul 2013

THAT would provide security .... from a wannabee sneaking in a side/back door & attacking the audience

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
50. They would check a woman's purse but not a man's backpack?
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 08:33 PM
Jul 2013

That is unbelievably sexist. Either they should check all packages, or no packages. Disney, for example, checks all bags at their theme park entrances.

Boomer

(4,176 posts)
52. Not quite what we said
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 09:08 PM
Jul 2013

Based on the theater manager's reply, they would check any bag -- and presumably that includes backpacks -- but the overwhelming majority of people we've seen at the theater on past visits don't often include people with backpacks. Most men come in without any type of bags, so the focus of the security seems to be on purses. Which, as security measures goes, is rather lame.

I'm curious how many other people are searched at their local theater? Is this common? So far, no one I've asked has ever had this happen to them even in major urban areas where these types of violent incidents would presumably be more common than at our small town.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
53. So Disney is equally bad.
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 09:10 PM
Jul 2013

They check all bags, whether they are purses, backpacks, diaper bags, anything. Which I have always thought is a complete waste of time, because anyone could smuggle in a weapon on their person.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
54. Years ago I had a friend who worked at the same place I did
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 09:28 PM
Jul 2013

And one day they started searching bags. This was in 1980. Anyways, she took a Kotex and put ketchup on it and they never searched her purse again. And not long after that, they stopped all the searches. I haven't been to a theater since 2007 The Simpson's Movie. And a few months back I found this site to watch newer films for free. They have blotches, or foreign subtitles on some. I watched Lincoln all the way through. I just click off the pop ups. You don't need to download anything. I watched 42 on there, but it didn't allow me watch it to the end. This was when it first came out on DVD.

http://viooz.co/movies/

 

Apophis

(1,407 posts)
59. I would refuse.
Mon Jul 29, 2013, 12:39 AM
Jul 2013

For the price of a movie ticket, you can buy the movie and watch it at home and not have to go through the gross violation of privacy.

Thankfully the movie theater I go to doesn't do this...yet.

theHandpuppet

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60. Yep, we did.
Mon Jul 29, 2013, 12:43 AM
Jul 2013

We turned around and went home, but not before telling the manager exactly why we wouldn't be spending our money at his theater... EVER.

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