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(8,155 posts)
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 04:31 PM Jul 2013

Does public office corrupt or does public office attract the corrupt?

Or is it a bit of both? There always seems to be this weird divide between the political leaders and the politically lead.

The historical philosophers always claim that those who should lead never want to lead. Is this a truism?

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Does public office corrupt or does public office attract the corrupt? (Original Post) Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 OP
Both, but our system seems to attract sociopathic and narcissistic personalities. nt Deep13 Jul 2013 #1
They don't see themselves as corrupt. Instead, entitled n/t leftstreet Jul 2013 #2
Here in NYS I think it is the water at the capitol that does it. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #3
Very good question. I believe it is a little of both but a slight edge to the attracting corrupt. diabeticman Jul 2013 #4
As a general rule you can't get far without being corruptible. GeorgeGist Jul 2013 #5
Yes n/t Fumesucker Jul 2013 #6
Ha! Agreed. BlueCheese Jul 2013 #7
As the expression goes, "Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." closeupready Jul 2013 #8
Both. LWolf Jul 2013 #9
Hang with thieves marsis Jul 2013 #10
I think many do run with the best intentions. MicaelS Jul 2013 #11
'Attract' more often, I think. randome Jul 2013 #12
Bit of both. And a bit of DirkGently Jul 2013 #13
Some of each, but weighed more heavily toward the corrupt being attracted. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #14

GeorgeGist

(25,320 posts)
5. As a general rule you can't get far without being corruptible.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 05:38 PM
Jul 2013

This is true in many, if not most, Western career choices.
 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
8. As the expression goes, "Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 05:47 PM
Jul 2013

It's also true that those who can not be bought by big money are those who will NOT be elected to public office, or if they are elected, they will be destroyed, career-wise.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
9. Both.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 05:50 PM
Jul 2013

At this point in time, it's difficult to elect someone without corrupting them in the process, and once in office they often have to BE corrupt to stay there.


 

marsis

(301 posts)
10. Hang with thieves
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 06:56 PM
Jul 2013

become a thief. The "every one does it mentality" prevails, especially when people literally throw money at you, but of course they aren't buying votes.....uh....nope.
It takes a very special person to overcome the paradigm in DC.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
11. I think many do run with the best intentions.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 07:06 PM
Jul 2013

But, once elected, they find out they're not going to be able to be implement their idealism because system inertia resists massive change.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
12. 'Attract' more often, I think.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 07:09 PM
Jul 2013

But politics also attracts those with entirely noble intentions who manage to keep their ethics yet cannot get much of anything done.
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DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
13. Bit of both. And a bit of
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 07:18 PM
Jul 2013

the nature of the beast. Machiavelli spelled out the way it works pretty well. Leaders are busier maintaining their own power than with looking outfor the common good.
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