The Department of Homeland Security says it is illegal to freely play music in The United States.

[Bennyboy]

July 20, 2013 Posted by Michael Martin under Music Vs. Dept. Homeland Security
88 Comments
Fact:
The Department of Homeland Security (An agency enacted through the Patriot Act) is now demanding through enforcement from The State Fire Marshalls that ALL LIVE MUSIC PLAYED IN THE UNITED STATES MUST HAVE A PERMIT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY.

This is an outrage to freedom and the ideals of The American people and our quickly evaporating rights.

This is just the start to the reality of what The Department of Homeland Security is going to do to the American citizens. The DHS is actually saying it is illegal to play music or operate a business where music is played for any reason without paying The Department of Homeland Security, and giving them much personal and private information. If The DHS can regulate the performance of a song where do you think they will stop? The fact is they won’t!

The Department of Homeland Security does not have the jurisdiction to enforce laws in The United States. They have purposefully and misleadingly attached themselves to The Fire Marshall to circumvent American constitutional rights and automatically give themselves jurisdiction in every business in The United States. This is enforced through the Fire Marshall’s inspection of commercial public businesses.

Please stand with me, American Citizens everywhere, and business owners in demanding that we will not allow The Department of Homeland Security in our businesses and homes. We need all US Citizens and our elected officials to stand united against the unlawful abuses of The Department of Homeland Security and this increasingly fascist government. The Patriot Act is the only reason The Department of Homeland Security has any jurisdiction. This is intentional. This is the first bold and aggressive move by them. Please stand with us! Our children and grandchildren need us!

I and my business Folly Moon (a restaurant in downtown Muncie, IN) have a hearing with The Department of Homeland Security at The Indiana State House on Friday Aug. 2nd at 10a.m.

more; http://iamnotanonymousblog.com/?p=216

[geek tragedy]

1. This sounds like a crazy person's rant.

My guess is that it hits the rec list.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. Ummm.... yeah.

[Arctic Dave]

3. What?

Is this a leap of logic thing?

[bunnies]

4. Heres a link to Indiana Dept of Homeland Security... they actually DO issue permits.

http://www.in.gov/dhs/2795.htm

Application For Amusement & Entertainment Permit

Amusement entertainment permits are required for events at a variety of locations and venues. Some of the most common kinds of places that require amusement entertainment permits are places where the following kinds of events occur: concerts and other shows, amusement rides, movies, dances, and bowling. It is extremely important that the owner of the property or the operator of the event applies for the amusement entertainment permit well in advance of the first planned event, so that the necessary life safety inspections of the venue can be performed to protect public safety.


1. Check the Entertainment Permits online filing navigation CHART to see what needs to be done to apply for a Entertainment Permit or Special Endorsement for a Entertainment Permit.

2. If ready to apply online please have the following information ready:

Information about the Owner of the Facility.
Information about location of the Entertainment Facility.
Owner / Facility Contact Information.
Event Names, Dates and Times for the Entertainment Permit.
New Requirement - You will need to upload an electronic copy of the floor plan of the AE facility, so please ensure this information is available before you start the application process - New Requirement.

3. Other important information when filing the project:

Keep all the information at hand when filing. If the web application times you out you will have to re-type all the information.
If you have questions regarding the Entertainment permits, please contact Betty Austin.
You will have to pay instant access and credit card fees besides the normal fees to use this service.
If you experience technical difficulties using the application contact Raj Pulikal for assistance.

[haele]

11. Sounds like a state "safety / occupancy licence" for entertaiment events and facilities.

Not a "You can't have a regular occasionally busking by the front door of your bar or church without getting a licence from the Federal Department of Homeland Security" fee. Or a "you can't play muzak in your resturant without filling out paperwork for Homeland Security" fee.

In fact, bars, resturants, and event halls have been complaining about this for a long time; it's pretty much a fire-marshall's inspection fee they have to pay whenever they schedule an event or "Friday Night Band Competition" and someone official has to check, either in person or on paper, to ensure everything is in order.

This sort of thing has been law in most states for a long, long time

Haele

[bunnies]

12. Yep.

But did you read the comments in the original link? Its an epic mass hair-lighting ceremony. Meanwhile this little rant takes a whole 30 seconds to debunk. We have WAY too many stupid people in this country.

[MineralMan]

5. The INDIANA Dept. of Homeland Security

wants this place to get a fire and safety permit. INDIANA. It has nothing to do with the Federal DHS, or music, either. It has to do with safety for her customers.

Bogus.

[diabeticman]

6. I'm looking for more info on this. I want to say it is a prank BUT with all the spying and just TSA

breaking into cars at airports and being in Grayhound stations... I'm not surprised.

[bunnies]

8. Read upthread. The info is there. nt

[diabeticman]

9. I'm sorry I might have used the wrong word I'm looking for a different source.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

7. This is off the wall. It has to do with the Indiana *state* agency

that regulates, among other things, building and fire safety, presumably to prevent any more of those night club fires where people are packed in to listen to a band and the place catches fire and they can't get out. It has nothing at all to do with the federal Department of Homeland Security, and there are no regulations in existence or proposed that require a permit to perform all live music in the US. This guy's tinfoil hat is on way too tight.

Last April, IDHS through its fire and building safety division found Mike Martin of the Folly Moon violated state law by failing to obtain an entertainment permit for live music at the downtown establishment.

State law requires places of amusement and entertainment to have permits subject to the inspection of state fire and building inspectors. And the law defines entertainment places as night clubs, dance halls or cabarets.

http://www.munciefreepress.com/node/29089

[Bennyboy]

10. nice sleuthing...thanks

I will be passing this along to the source...

[struggle4progress]

13. "Damn bastards tryin to force me to get a fire inspection! I blame Obama!"

... Last April, IDHS through its fire and building safety division found Mike Martin of the Folly Moon violated state law by failing to obtain an entertainment permit for live music at the downtown establishment. State law requires places of amusement and entertainment to have permits subject to the inspection of state fire and building inspectors. And the law defines entertainment places as night clubs, dance halls or cabarets ...
Folly Moon challenges Department of Homeland Security entertainment law
Submitted by Rick Yencer on Sat, 06/29/2013 - 7:46pm.
http://www.munciefreepress.com/node/29089

[Link Speed]

14. Every musician in Indiana should show up at their local courthouse, on cue.

Maybe play "Back Home Again in Indiana".

During rush hour.

Right in the fuckers' faces.

[Bluenorthwest]

18. In actual reality, people who play on other people's stages want those stages

inspected and fire regulations enforced. Musicians don't care for dying in fires or seeing their fans do so. Expecting producers and employers to follow standards of safety is very much a a performer's issue. In Indiana, the same law covers amusement park rides. Texas has no such law. A few days ago someone died on a Texas roller coaster. This is a State law, not a Federal law, in spite of what the greedy, selfish, anti regulation boss man who wrote the above bullshit has to say.

[onenote]

15. When a post gets a basic fact wrong less than ten words in, be skeptical

Maybe its a minor point, but the Department of Homeland Security was not created by the PATRIOT Act. It was created a month later by the Homeland Security Act and basically codified an executive order, issued a month before the PATRIOT Act, forming the "Office of Homeland Security."

Details.

[Cali_Democrat]

16. LOL. Good point.

[JoePhilly]

17. You know who else banned live music .... Hitler!!

OK, I'm not sure about that ... but it sounds like something he'd do.