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Read or watch Shock Doctrine. This is a scheme and Snyder is a pro at it. As is Romeny.
Too many people responding to these threads don't get it. It isn't that there are pensions and no money to pay them. These crises are created intentionally, and then right-wing libertarian economists jump in and say, "Oh no, a crisis! We have to do this horrible thing that will make a bunch of people incredibly poor, but we have no other choice!" And so they do it, because supposedly there is no other choice, but meanwhile a few people are making tons of money. It's happened over and over and over again, all over the world, wherever these libertarian economists have been.
We aren't falling for this game anymore. We know what they're doing.
Dreamer Tatum
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(22,336 posts)(No idea why that posted 4 times. Ack!)
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)I don't know why people are howling conspiracy when the economics are crystal clear: lost tax base and condensed unfunded commitments. Yeah, someone will make money off of it - unless the government bails Detroit out, why shouldn't someone putting
up money make some in return?
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Skittles
(153,185 posts)he is an expert at making money off misery
NoOneMan
(4,795 posts)How do the creditors get paid? How are the funds raised without selling anything? What level of taxes are necessary to service the debt based on projected economic activity?
gollygee
(22,336 posts)should involve no one profiting off the bankruptcy, but that won't happen. Someone will make a huge profit. If a solution came out where they didn't sell Belle Isle for very little to someone who will make a fortune, and that kind of "solution" I could see your point. But this is all set up so people will make money, not because of pensions.
NoOneMan
(4,795 posts)I agree. And I know that people will profit from this. But unless there is a viable plan to pay all creditors and service all obligations that doesn't involve bankruptcy, then its pretty much the only option on the table. OTOH, a necessary bankruptcy doesn't mean vulture capitalism's blend of bankruptcy is necessary.
But this is all set up
This situation will be exploited. It may of been exacerbated purposely. But I don't know if anyone can say its entirely a set-up rather than a failure of the omniscient wizards behind the curtain (who run everything else as well). Its tragic what has happened there, time after time. Detroit may be America's canary, hinting of a future of decline from the ramnifications of the ignorant cult of economist who were given free reign to apply their theories
blm
(113,085 posts)They've been breaking cities all across the US to further the global fascist agenda - a world ruled by corporate empires.
Wounded Bear
(58,704 posts)What better way to make a profit than to appoint a corporate toady to sell off a city at fire sale prices?
They get the gold from the mine and the people get the shaft.
Crepuscular
(1,057 posts)but in regards to Detroit, this is simply conspiracy theory clap-trap. This financial hole has been being dug for generations and it's largely the result of political corruption, malfeasance and incompetence.
But for the sake of entertainment, what are the other viable options, other then bankruptcy, that Detroit should be looking at to solve their financial woes?