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Catherina

(35,568 posts)
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 08:57 PM Jul 2013

The Creepy, Long-Standing Practice of Undersea Cable Tapping

The Creepy, Long-Standing Practice of Undersea Cable Tapping

The newest NSA leaks reveal that governments are probing "the Internet's backbone." How does that work?

Olga Khazan Jul 16 2013, 1:55 PM ET


A map of undersea cables. (TeleGeography)

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So how does one tap into an underwater cable?

The process is extremely secretive, but it seems similar to tapping an old-fashioned, pre-digital telephone line -- the eavesdropper gathers up all the data that flows past, then deciphers it later.

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In 2005, the Associated Press reported that a submarine called the USS Jimmy Carter had been repurposed to carry crews of technicians to the bottom of the sea so they could tap fiber optic lines. The easiest place to get into the cables is at the regeneration points -- spots where their signals are amplified and pushed forward on their long, circuitous journeys. "At these spots, the fiber optics can be more easily tapped, because they are no longer bundled together, rather laid out individually," Deutsche Welle reported.

But such aquatic endeavors may no longer even be necessary. The cables make landfall at coastal stations in various countries, where their data is sent on to domestic networks, and it's easier to tap them on land than underwater. Britain is, geographically, in an ideal position to access to cables as they emerge from the Atlantic, so the cooperation between the NSA and GCHQ has been key. Beyond that partnership, there are the other members of the "Five Eyes" -- the Australians, the New Zealanders, and the Canadians -- that also collaborate with the U.S., Snowden said.

The tapping process apparently involves using so-called "intercept probes." According to two analysts I spoke to, the intelligence agencies likely gain access to the landing stations, usually with the permission of the host countries or operating companies, and use these small devices to capture the light being sent across the cable. The probe bounces the light through a prism, makes a copy of it, and turns it into binary data without disrupting the flow of the original Internet traffic.

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The British anti-surveillance group Privacy International has filed a lawsuit against the U.K. government, arguing that such practices amount to "blanked surveillance" and saying that British courts do "not provide sufficiently specific or clear authorization for such wide-ranging and universal interception of communications." Their argument is that the existing surveillance laws are from the phone-tapping days and can't be applied to modern, large-scale electronic data collection.

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http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/07/the-creepy-longstanding-practice-of-undersea-cable-tapping/277855/

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The Creepy, Long-Standing Practice of Undersea Cable Tapping (Original Post) Catherina Jul 2013 OP
Remember the incident several years ago when a couple cables were 'accidentally' cut? Mnemosyne Jul 2013 #1
Yes but I don't remember the details, other than the usual ridicule, by the same dependable crowd, Catherina Jul 2013 #2
I was hoping you or another reader might know myself. Mnemosyne Jul 2013 #10
OnyxCollie nailed it in post #3! Catherina Jul 2013 #13
They sure do! Mnemosyne Jul 2013 #16
Undersea cables were cut right before the opening of the Iranian oil bourse. OnyxCollie Jul 2013 #3
Thank you! That's what I was looking for Catherina Jul 2013 #11
Thank you, thank you, thank you! I knew I remembered it, just not details. Mnemosyne Jul 2013 #12
I remember when a storm Jenoch Jul 2013 #4
I sure hope anyone you know who's still stuck on that island makes it off someday Catherina Jul 2013 #5
I need some help here... Jenoch Jul 2013 #7
Sarcasm n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #21
The government has direct access to conch shell communications. OnyxCollie Jul 2013 #8
LOL! Probably training dolphins for that exact purpose! nt adirondacker Jul 2013 #14
That was actually my first thought. Orrex Jul 2013 #9
No, but ironically it was a dysfunctional satellite that saved them. adirondacker Jul 2013 #17
Yes, I think there is some parsing of words gvstn Jul 2013 #6
K & R !!! WillyT Jul 2013 #15
iirc, decades ago the US was caught tapping underseas telegraph cables.... HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #18
U.S. tapped Soviet cables too... hunter Jul 2013 #19
If you wish to read more about the tapping of Soviet Communications cables Jenoch Jul 2013 #20
Thank you n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #23
yeah, I was about to mention that... Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #22

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
1. Remember the incident several years ago when a couple cables were 'accidentally' cut?
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 09:07 PM
Jul 2013

Seems it was in the Atlantic and the Mediterranean, iirc. Makes ya' wonder...

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
2. Yes but I don't remember the details, other than the usual ridicule, by the same dependable crowd,
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 09:14 PM
Jul 2013

that it was a conspiracy theory. Can you give me a good reference to that story?

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
10. I was hoping you or another reader might know myself.
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 10:26 PM
Jul 2013

My old laptop was stolen a few years ago, lost lots of great links that don't seem to exist any longer. Had so much on the BFEE, glad Octafish has many.

Sorry!

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
3. Undersea cables were cut right before the opening of the Iranian oil bourse.
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 09:24 PM
Jul 2013

Last edited Tue Jul 16, 2013, 11:32 PM - Edit history (3)

Iran oil bourse scheduled
http://www.energybulletin.net/node/39844

Iran to open oil bourse
http://www.tehrantimes.com/NCms/2007.asp?code=160651

Iran Oil Bourse to deal blow to dollar
http://www.presstv.ir/pop/print.aspx?id=37468

Cable damage hits one million Internet users in UAE
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle.asp?xfile=da...

The Submarine Cables - A Complete Guide to the 2008 Internet Outage
http://www.ilovebonnie.net/2008/02/12/the-submarine-cab... /

Third undersea cable reportedly cut between Sri Lanka, Suez
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/third-undersea-ca... …79-E983-4E0E-BC39-68A120DC16D9%7d&print=true&dist=printMidSection

Internet failure hits two continents
http://cnn.site.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?actio... …2F2008%2FWORLD%2Fmeast%2F01%2F31%2Fdubai.outage%2F&partnerID=211911

Third undersea Internet cable cut in Mideast
http://cnn.site.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?actio... …RLD%2Fmeast%2F02%2F01%2Finternet.outage%2Findex.html&partnerID=211911

Internet disrupted in Egypt and India
http://www.reuters.com/articlePrint?articleId=USL302662...

Internet provider in UAE confirms undersea cable cut between Dubai, Oman, cause unknown
http://www.iht.com/bin/printfriendly.php?id=9686822

Ships did not cause Internet cable damage
http://web.archive.org/web/20080212103010/http://www.kh... …theworld/2008/February/theworld_February77.xml§ion=theworld&col

Internet problems continue with fourth cable break
http://www.arabianbusiness.com/510132?tmpl=print&page=

Hydra-headed nature helps Net rebound after cable cut
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/2753865...

Faulty cable blacks out internet for millions
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/jan/31/intern...

Fallout over Mideast damage from cut cables spreads to India
http://www.chinapost.com.tw/print/141427.htm

Cable damage in Mediterranean disrupts Internet in Mideast
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=... …c&taxonomyName=Disaster+Recovery&articleId=9060339&taxonomyId=151

Mediterranean Cables Cut, Disrupting Communications (Update2)
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20670001&refer=e...

Severed cables disrupt internet
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools/print/news.b...

New cable cut compounds net woes
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools/print/news.b...

Internet outages hit Middle East
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2008/01/20...

4th Undersea Cable Break: Between Qatar and UAE
http://mathaba.net/news/print25.shtml?cmd <40>=i-42-0be94512fa306925b06fdf9963d29656

Here are some related items.

US pulls the plug on Muslim websites
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,425358...

Damaged Cable Interrupts Internet Service in Five Latin American Countries
http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/community/news/vam/blo... …onid=D43810B239CF11D21F4B59163AD4986E?cs=17663&decorator=print

Spy agency taps into undersea cable
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-115877.html?legacy=z...

Bush Order Expands Network Monitoring
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...

CIA Admits Cyberattacks Blacked Out Cities
http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?...

JIMMY CARTER: SUPER SPY?
http://www.defensetech.org/archives/001397.html

Secrecy Power Sinks Patent Case
http://www.wired.com/print/science/discoveries/news/200...

CRATER CORPORATION,
Plaintiff-Appellant,
v.
LUCENT TECHNOLOGIES, INC.
and AT&T COMPANY,
Defendants-Appellees,
and
UNITED STATES,
Defendant-Appellee.
http://fas.org/sgp/jud/crater090705.pdf

FEDERAL CIRCUIT PATENT LAW CASE UPDATE
Crater Corp. v. Lucent Techs., 04-1349 (Fed. Cir. Sept. 7, 2005) (Schall, J.)
www.fcplc.org

Iran To Shut Down Internet Permanently; 'Clean' National Intranet In Pipeline

Source: International Business Times

Millions of Internet users in Iran will be permanently denied access to the World Wide Web and cut off from popular social networking sites and email services, as the government has announced its plans to establish a national Intranet within five months.

In a statement released Thursday, Reza Taghipour, the Iranian minister for Information and Communications Technology, announced the setting up of a national Intranet and the effective blockage of services like Google, Gmail, Google Plus, Yahoo and Hotmail, in line with Iran's plan for a "clean Internet."

The government is set to roll out the first phase of the project in May, following which Google, Hotmail and Yahoo services will be blocked and replaced with government Intranet services like Iran Mail and Iran Search Engine. At this stage, however, the World Wide Web, apart from the aforementioned sites, will still be accessible.

The government has already started the registration procedure to apply for procuring Iran Mail ID, which mandates authentic information pertaining to a person's identity, including national ID, address and full name. Registration will be approved only after verifying it against the government data on the particular applicant.


Read more: http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/325415/20120409/iran-internet-intranet-censorhip-freedom-tehran-google.htm

Navy Unveils UUV Master Plan
http://www.navy.mil/navydata/cno/n87/usw/issue_26/uuv.html

The Navy is also studying alternative offensive roles for UUVs, such as emitting jamming or false data transmissions into an adversary’s command, control, and communications network. The UUV Master Plan also envisions the eventual development of UUVs armed with land-attack weapons to provide time-critical strike capability.

The plan highlights another important, inherent capability of unmanned systems: that of serving as communication and navigation network nodes (CN3). The significance of this capability lies in the UUV’s ability to act as a bridge interface between above-water radio communications, high-bandwidth, long-range networks, and lower-bandwidth, below-water transmission systems.

As CN3, unmanned vehicles may provide additional redundancy for GPS and other position location systems. UUVs may also relay communication signals from various emitters–such as local radios and satellites–providing connectivity for forces operating clandestinely or in remote areas. As networking nodes, sharing and relaying data, UUVs may assist the Navy’s submarine force in achieving communication capability “at speed and depth.”

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
4. I remember when a storm
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 09:51 PM
Jul 2013

threw an undersea telecommunications cable onto the beach at the lagoon on Gilligan's Island. The professor tapped into the telephone lines and made a speaker out of a conch shell. They never did make the right telephone call to escape the island.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
5. I sure hope anyone you know who's still stuck on that island makes it off someday
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 09:57 PM
Jul 2013

Wouldn't want anyone stuck in the land of conch shells for communication, would we?

gvstn

(2,805 posts)
6. Yes, I think there is some parsing of words
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 10:01 PM
Jul 2013

Going on with this whole NSA deal. Something about Fiber Optic lines not being considered as being "tapped".
I haven't really out it together in my mind but fiber optic keeps popping up as if they are not telephone wires and therefore deserve no mention of wiretapping protection. The telecoms get wires with no federal regulation and the Feds get wholesale access to people's communications.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
18. iirc, decades ago the US was caught tapping underseas telegraph cables....
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 11:14 PM
Jul 2013

to S America from Europe. Gave US businesses a jump on business transactions. I'll look for a link.

hunter

(38,311 posts)
19. U.S. tapped Soviet cables too...
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 11:21 PM
Jul 2013
Operation Ivy Bells was a joint United States Navy, CIA and National Security Agency (NSA) mission whose objective was to place wire taps on Soviet underwater communication lines during the Cold War.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ivy_Bells
 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
20. If you wish to read more about the tapping of Soviet Communications cables
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 11:28 PM
Jul 2013

this book has those stories and more about the Cold War submarine exchanges with the Soviets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_Man's_Bluff:_The_Untold_Story_of_American_Submarine_Espionage

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