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If Holder prosecutes GZ for violating Trayvon's civil rights (Original Post) MoonRiver Jul 2013 OP
It won't... Pelican Jul 2013 #1
That should help the case then. MoonRiver Jul 2013 #2
I think civil rights cases are usually only applied to law enforcement. Travis_0004 Jul 2013 #8
IMO, Holder isn't going to touch this. femmocrat Jul 2013 #3
Holder has been quite active on voter ID laws. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #15
Guess I missed that. femmocrat Jul 2013 #17
Eh? geek tragedy Jul 2013 #21
Holder is very good regarding civil rights cases meow2u3 Jul 2013 #23
Were any struck down? femmocrat Jul 2013 #24
It'll be a federal case in fedeal court under federal law byeya Jul 2013 #4
This is about average people's lives. Beneath him. He won't touch it. GoneFishin Jul 2013 #5
+ + byeya Jul 2013 #19
What would the actual charge be? pipoman Jul 2013 #6
Eric Holder prosecute? Seriously? CanonRay Jul 2013 #7
We're expecting Eric Holder to do something about an obvious injustice? Nt abelenkpe Jul 2013 #9
You and others may be correct, but I choose to at least try! MoonRiver Jul 2013 #10
Why do you think Holder might prosecute GZ? City Lights Jul 2013 #11
Because if I'm remembering correctly he stated before the trial that he would consider doing it. MoonRiver Jul 2013 #12
Oh, I didn't know that. City Lights Jul 2013 #13
The more pressure he gets the more likely he, and Obama, will take action. MoonRiver Jul 2013 #14
I think they'd start at the beginning fadedrose Jul 2013 #16
This is never going to happen LittleBlue Jul 2013 #18
There have been many federal civil rights cases like this one prosecuted in federal byeya Jul 2013 #20
It would be a weird case. dairydog91 Jul 2013 #22
One possibility would be to try and bring it to fed. court as a hate crime byeya Jul 2013 #25
 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
8. I think civil rights cases are usually only applied to law enforcement.
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 09:16 AM
Jul 2013

Since Zimmerman was not a police officer, I doubt he is eligible to be tried on civil rights violations.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
3. IMO, Holder isn't going to touch this.
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 09:02 AM
Jul 2013

He wouldn't even do anything on voter ID laws. He's no Al Sharpton when it comes to civil rights.

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
23. Holder is very good regarding civil rights cases
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 10:36 AM
Jul 2013

He went after the 21st century poll tax laws, better known as voter photo ID laws, for one. IMO, he'll be more likely than not to pursue an investigation into civil rights violations.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
24. Were any struck down?
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 10:42 AM
Jul 2013

We are still fighting the battle in PA. It is currently in the state courts. I understand that the feds get involved in states that have a history of discrimination at the polls. I would hope the Justice Dept. would look at attempts to extend voter suppression in non-traditional states as well.

CanonRay

(14,101 posts)
7. Eric Holder prosecute? Seriously?
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 09:16 AM
Jul 2013

You are kidding, right. Mr. Ballless won't touch it with a ten foot pole. C'mon Eric, prove me wrong.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
10. You and others may be correct, but I choose to at least try!
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 09:42 AM
Jul 2013

What's the point of simply rolling over and playing dead?

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
14. The more pressure he gets the more likely he, and Obama, will take action.
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 09:56 AM
Jul 2013

I definitely don't' think they can just stay silent. But who knows!

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
16. I think they'd start at the beginning
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 10:00 AM
Jul 2013

with the profiling that started the whole tragedy....no profiling, no following, no confrontation, no nothing....

I wish the parents a lot of luck. I think if they asked for funds to sue GZ, they'd get donations pretty quick...

I hope nobody hurts him so that he could live a long time in absolute poverty, him and his smart-ass brother, "Look what he (Trayvon) did to my brother!", he told Piers Morgan. What a couple of pigs they are.

 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
20. There have been many federal civil rights cases like this one prosecuted in federal
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 10:13 AM
Jul 2013

courts in the south.
Martin was deprived of his most basic right: the right to life.

I think the Alabama bombing of the church which killed four girls ended up in federal court. (edit: This was a local prosecution with the case opened after it was revealed the FBI, with J Edgar Hoover named, suppressed evidence. Convictions were obtained and those convicted died in jail - the incident was in 1963)
The Klan ambush of the peaceful march by the SWP in Greensboro, NC, saw individual civil rights suits over the shootings.

dairydog91

(951 posts)
22. It would be a weird case.
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 10:30 AM
Jul 2013

What federal statute are they accusing Zimmerman of violating? Most of the civil rights statutes I worked with (Years ago, as a legal intern) dealt with states violating civil rights, and Congress may regulate those actions under the 14th Amendment.

Also, a federal prosecution of an individual defendant for an "ordinary" criminal act that occurred entirely within one state, with no interstate "hook", sounds an awful lot like a Morrison or Lopez situation, i.e. SCOTUS might dump it on the grounds that the law can't be justified as an exercise of an enumerated power.

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