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Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:35 PM

Since "following" has now been adjudicated to be OkeeDokee

perhaps Z should have people following him 24/7/365.. It's perfectly legal... His attorneys and the jury said so.. and if HE challenges the followers, they can just shoot him because they were standing their ground..

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Reply Since "following" has now been adjudicated to be OkeeDokee (Original post)
SoCalDem Jul 2013 OP
JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #1
silverweb Jul 2013 #5
enigmatic Jul 2013 #9
Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #2
Chico Man Jul 2013 #3
avebury Jul 2013 #8
Chico Man Jul 2013 #13
loli phabay Jul 2013 #17
avebury Jul 2013 #27
X_Digger Jul 2013 #4
99Forever Jul 2013 #14
SoCalDem Jul 2013 #18
Chico Man Jul 2013 #20
Threedifferentones Jul 2013 #28
X_Digger Jul 2013 #21
99Forever Jul 2013 #22
Chico Man Jul 2013 #24
99Forever Jul 2013 #25
Jamastiene Jul 2013 #29
treestar Jul 2013 #6
Honeycombe8 Jul 2013 #7
Downwinder Jul 2013 #10
SoCalDem Jul 2013 #12
Chico Man Jul 2013 #15
tularetom Jul 2013 #11
CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #16
polly7 Jul 2013 #19
tavalon Jul 2013 #23
Lugnut Jul 2013 #26
JoePhilly Jul 2013 #30

Response to SoCalDem (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:36 PM

1. I worry

What precedent this sets for stalking laws in this country.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:38 PM

5. Exactly.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:40 PM

9. This is a great point. n/m

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Response to SoCalDem (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:37 PM

2. I think your analogy is appropriate.

 

That's why this verdict is sooooooo wrong on several levels.

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Response to SoCalDem (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:37 PM

3. Sounds like actual stalking to me

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Response to Chico Man (Reply #3)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:40 PM

8. Not if you have a bunch of people working together and

set up a schedule to vary who is following GZ at any one time.

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Response to avebury (Reply #8)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:41 PM

13. Ok then you should try it

Might want to consult with a lawyer first..

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Response to avebury (Reply #8)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:46 PM

17. still stalking and prob conspiracy as well

 

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Response to loli phabay (Reply #17)

Sun Jul 14, 2013, 06:02 AM

27. All you would be doing is forming a Neighborhood

Watch.

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Response to SoCalDem (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:38 PM

4. It always was legal to follow someone.

If it were illegal, paparazzi would be in jail.

"Following" does not rise to the legal definition of "stalking". (All squirrels are mammals, but not all mammals are squirrels.)

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Response to X_Digger (Reply #4)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:42 PM

14. Was someone arguing otherwise?

What's your point?

Seems perfectly legal and rational for multiple armed people, preferably blacks, to follow Mr Wannabe everywhere he goes for the rest of his life. When he complains...

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Response to 99Forever (Reply #14)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:46 PM

18. Instead of Neighborhood Watch.. It's The Zimmerman Watch

Confronting the follower is the crime and makes one worthy of being shot..and absolves the follower if he/she was "scared"...

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Response to 99Forever (Reply #14)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:46 PM

20. Actually

That sounds very irrational and I don't see how this case sets any precedent that would allow for such behavior.

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Response to Chico Man (Reply #20)

Sun Jul 14, 2013, 07:51 AM

28. Is that a joke?

GZ followed TM with an aggressive mindset, as evidenced by his belief that TM was a "punk," and when TM confronted him about it GZ blew him away. So not only is it rational to do the same to GZ, it is emotionally satisfying as well. Sometimes justice and revenge do coincide.

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Response to 99Forever (Reply #14)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:46 PM

21. The OP argues that this is a new decision (following being now legal..)

They can follow him, and he can complain all he likes.

If they do it repeatedly, it may rise to the level of stalking. (See FL statutes on stalking.)

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Response to X_Digger (Reply #21)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:50 PM

22. Fl statutes?

Surely you jest? That 3rd world cesspool? No thanks.

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Response to 99Forever (Reply #22)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:52 PM

24. The stalking statutes

Are probably nearly identical in all 50 states

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Response to Chico Man (Reply #24)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:55 PM

25. Frankly...

.. I care fuckall about "statutes" when this kind of shit passes for "justice."

Take your legalities and ...

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Response to X_Digger (Reply #21)

Sun Jul 14, 2013, 11:35 AM

29. Each person could just follow him once. n/t

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Response to SoCalDem (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:39 PM

6. Good idea

And to protect the people he interacts with.

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Response to SoCalDem (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:40 PM

7. Stand Your Ground was not a factor in the case. nt

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Response to SoCalDem (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:40 PM

10. Differentiate between following and stalking.

I don't see a difference.

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Response to Downwinder (Reply #10)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:41 PM

12. You may not, but time and again, we were all reminded that following was NOT a crime

and apparently the person trying to stop being followed is the criminal..go figure

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Response to Downwinder (Reply #10)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:44 PM

15. Read the laws

They are out there. If you feel like you are being stalked, you can call the police, and have a hearing with a judge- perhaps they will issue a restraining order if they feel it is appropriate.

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Response to SoCalDem (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:40 PM

11. Not gonna be a happy life for Mr Zimmerman

The guy was paranoid before this ever happened.

Now he knows he got away with murder.

Even if nobody is following him, he's always going to think they are.

Eventually, he'll snap.

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Response to tularetom (Reply #11)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:45 PM

16. Only fitting for him.

May he always look over his shoulder and never know a day's peace or happiness for his smugness, arrogance, and lack of remorse.

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Response to tularetom (Reply #11)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:46 PM

19. Yes, he may need to double up on those anti-anxiety meds.

I don't think he has a conscience that will make him crazy, but that fear sure will. I hope he has nightmares for the rest of his life.

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Response to tularetom (Reply #11)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:52 PM

23. He has bad, bad, karma

He can work it out in this life or the next, but it isn't going to be pretty

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Response to tularetom (Reply #11)

Sun Jul 14, 2013, 12:36 AM

26. I can live with that.

A jail cell would've been my first choice but he isn't really a free man.

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Response to tularetom (Reply #11)

Sun Jul 14, 2013, 11:38 AM

30. A reasonable person should fear for their life when they see Zimmerman.

And as we're learned ... so long as you reasonably fear for your life ... anything goes.

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