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For anyone who thinks Travon Martin was "bashing" Zims head on the sidewalk: (Original Post) bunnies Jul 2013 OP
That sidewalk is made of Sponge Concrete [TM]. winter is coming Jul 2013 #1
I certainly don't believe it Cirque du So-What Jul 2013 #2
The sidewalk is at least 6 feet away from Trayvon. bunnies Jul 2013 #3
Is that what that yellow thinig is, Martin's body covered up? arcane1 Jul 2013 #7
Yes. nt bunnies Jul 2013 #10
In the walk through with the investigator Zimmerman indicated the head banging was near that lumpy Jul 2013 #32
That is a fine pile of bullshit Z put forth with that one... Ohio Joe Jul 2013 #4
or walk away with 2 little scratches. bunnies Jul 2013 #6
Looks like what they put down in playgrounds HockeyMom Jul 2013 #5
yep. But they werent even close to the sidewalk. bunnies Jul 2013 #9
If Zimmerman was "ambushed" while walking down that path NoOneMan Jul 2013 #8
Yep. And if the whole fight was T on top of Z... bunnies Jul 2013 #11
that pissed me off too TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #27
Also, didn't Z say that Trayvon jumped out of the bushes to attack him? What bushes? Booster Jul 2013 #35
And his earbuds and phone were found right next to his head. polly7 Jul 2013 #12
Not a shred of his story makes sense. bunnies Jul 2013 #13
Exactly, bunnies. nt. polly7 Jul 2013 #14
The distance doesn't fit, you must convict. all american girl Jul 2013 #15
Considering the Zimmy defender using the OJ reference in the other thread... bunnies Jul 2013 #16
Thank you all american girl Jul 2013 #31
If the jurors saw these photos, they cannot tblue37 Jul 2013 #17
omg. bunnies Jul 2013 #19
Right. Every photo we got to see tblue37 Jul 2013 #23
You just reminded me of when I was young... bunnies Jul 2013 #25
Bunnies, you reminded me of my brother... all american girl Jul 2013 #33
Sorry Bunnies, double post. I just wanted to edit all american girl Jul 2013 #34
So many of us with scars on our chins. bunnies Jul 2013 #36
You made me laugh!!!!!!! Thanxs!!!!!! all american girl Jul 2013 #37
So where are the bushes gollygee Jul 2013 #18
Oh those? bunnies Jul 2013 #22
Defense description of repeated pounding of head on concrete moondust Jul 2013 #20
Yes. nt. polly7 Jul 2013 #21
Absolutely. bunnies Jul 2013 #26
No kalisto2010 Jul 2013 #24
actually... bunnies Jul 2013 #30
Zimmerman Aerows Jul 2013 #28
Seems to me the defense made a hell of a mistake bunnies Jul 2013 #29

Cirque du So-What

(25,938 posts)
2. I certainly don't believe it
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 12:56 PM
Jul 2013

but I'm curious as to what this photo reveals in the way of proof of anything. I can be frustratingly dense sometimes, so please indulge me and let me know what I should be seeing.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
3. The sidewalk is at least 6 feet away from Trayvon.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 12:57 PM
Jul 2013

No way he could have been banging Zimmermans head on it from there.

lumpy

(13,704 posts)
32. In the walk through with the investigator Zimmerman indicated the head banging was near that
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 03:43 PM
Jul 2013

tree in the foreground. He didn't mention that they changed location to where the body lay.
If I recall correctly.

Ohio Joe

(21,755 posts)
4. That is a fine pile of bullshit Z put forth with that one...
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 12:59 PM
Jul 2013

Someone starts bashing your head into the sidewalk and you don't get up.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
5. Looks like what they put down in playgrounds
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:00 PM
Jul 2013

so if a child fall off a swing or something they won't break their head open. At least up North they do. Florida just uses sand instead.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
9. yep. But they werent even close to the sidewalk.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:03 PM
Jul 2013

So unless Zim wants us to believe that Trayvon flew 6' backwards when he shot him his story makes no damn sense. Its absurd.

 

NoOneMan

(4,795 posts)
8. If Zimmerman was "ambushed" while walking down that path
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:02 PM
Jul 2013

Wouldn't he have been knocked backwards with his feet angled towards the path, on the other side of it?

The very positioning of the bodies indicate that Zimmerman stepped off the path at least 2 full body lengths toward Martin, before having been knocked to his back. I am not sure why the prosecution missed this very elementary fact

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
11. Yep. And if the whole fight was T on top of Z...
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:09 PM
Jul 2013

as Zimmy claims, then they were never even near the sidewalk based on the position of Trayvons body.

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
27. that pissed me off too
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 03:24 PM
Jul 2013

How on earth did they not bother to mention anything about that? They were no where near the concrete.

Hopefully, the jury will see that obvious point themselves even though the prosecution somehow missed it.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
12. And his earbuds and phone were found right next to his head.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:13 PM
Jul 2013

There is no way they'd be there if the 'death fight' Zimmerman described took place on the concrete. And, if Trayvon had jumped out at Zimmerman from the bushes (what bushes???), he'd have tossed or set down his phone before his 'attack'. Seeing all of these pictures the last few days has just reinforced for me that Zimmerman is not only a murderer, he's a really bad liar.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
13. Not a shred of his story makes sense.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:18 PM
Jul 2013

Youre right. People do certain things before a fight if they know theyre about to be in. Like with women... if she puts her hair up and takes her shoes off you *know* its about to be on.

If T was the fighter the defense wants us to believe he was, he'd have probably prepared for it. Yet he didnt. Wonder why.

all american girl

(1,788 posts)
15. The distance doesn't fit, you must convict.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 02:41 PM
Jul 2013

To give credit wear credit is do....my hubby.

And I'm not making light of a very, very sad situation.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
16. Considering the Zimmy defender using the OJ reference in the other thread...
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 02:46 PM
Jul 2013

I think its apt. Well done.

all american girl

(1,788 posts)
31. Thank you
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 03:34 PM
Jul 2013

and I take a bow to my husband. I showed this dumbass picture to him and he cleverly said that....I married very, very well

tblue37

(65,342 posts)
17. If the jurors saw these photos, they cannot
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 03:01 PM
Jul 2013
possibly believe that Trayvon was bashing Z's head, breaking his nose, or seriously injuring him in any way--certainly not to the degree that Z would think his life was in anger.

Those are little bandaid boo-boos. In fact, the facial boo-boos aren't even bad enough for a bandaid, and once the blood is wiped off, the head boo-boos are probably just as minor!





 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
19. omg.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 03:07 PM
Jul 2013

I hadnt seen the cleaned up nose one. No part of him ever hit that sidewalk. Its crystal clear. His damn head would have been split wide open. And he didnt even bother to see a doctor! I dont know about you but if my head gets "bashed" into the sidewalk even ONCE, Im going straight to the ER to get it checked out.

tblue37

(65,342 posts)
23. Right. Every photo we got to see
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 03:12 PM
Jul 2013

was probably taken right afterward, and they always showed a lot more blood on his head and face.

The head and face are well supplied with blood. Every new mother soon learns that head and face boo-boos bleed copiously, even when they are insignificant. We discover this fact the first time our precious baby gets such a boo-boo. We are initially certain that our child has suffered a mortal wound, only to discover after cleaning the injury up that it is no more severe than those on Z's face in the photo I posted.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
25. You just reminded me of when I was young...
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 03:18 PM
Jul 2013

and tripped running down the street. I hit it face first. Split my chin wide open and it gushed all down the front of me. By the time I got home it was all over my shirt, face and hands. I looked like I was about to die, it bled so much.

And there again the point is made that his head was never bashed on the sidewalk. My chin took 12 stitches. Zims? Not even a band-aid.

all american girl

(1,788 posts)
33. Bunnies, you reminded me of my brother...
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 04:24 PM
Jul 2013

we were in grade school. He decided to ride his bike down a hill. He fell off, hitting his chin and knocking a tooth out. When the neighbor kid brought him home, his orange and white strip shirt was red. Most of it was from his chin. He, also needed stitches, I can't remember how much.

when my son was 4 1/2, he fell down the stairs and sliced his forehead opened. He had 7 stitches...there was blood everywhere. The cut was about 1 1/2 to maybe 2 inches...it was bad enough that they had to put a stitch inside...I call hokum on Zimmerman.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
36. So many of us with scars on our chins.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 04:34 PM
Jul 2013
Surely the jury members (at least some) have had experiences like ours call hokum on him as well. As my mother used to say... he's so full of shit his eyes are brown. heh.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
18. So where are the bushes
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 03:03 PM
Jul 2013

Trayvon was lurking behind?

Zimmerman's story is all such bullshit. I hope the jury sees that.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
22. Oh those?
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 03:12 PM
Jul 2013

Those were very rare migrating bushes imported from Zimmenstan. They tend to relocate suddenly and without notice.

moondust

(19,981 posts)
20. Defense description of repeated pounding of head on concrete
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 03:09 PM
Jul 2013

would have caused dizziness, concussion. Or worse. Possibly much worse. Intracranial hemorrhaging. The kind of thing that would absolutely call for an emergent CT scan or MRI to detect any serious injury, IMO.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
26. Absolutely.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 03:21 PM
Jul 2013

No one in their right mind would refuse medical treatment if that actually happened. On the other hand, they just might refuse medical treatment if they were concerned that the examination would rule out their account of what happened. Hmmmm.

kalisto2010

(64 posts)
24. No
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 03:16 PM
Jul 2013

Why would anyone waste their time trying to grab the head of a bald man? If you're trying to kill someone, it's way more efficient to just throw multiple punches which would do way more damage.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
30. actually...
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 03:33 PM
Jul 2013

it probably would have been easiest just to choke him out. Especially since he was such a weakling, as the defense claims.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
28. Zimmerman
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 03:25 PM
Jul 2013

has a big head and Trayvon was extremely long limbed.

Edit: Better put in the tag lest someone think I'm being serious (as ludicrous as that might be).

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
29. Seems to me the defense made a hell of a mistake
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 03:31 PM
Jul 2013

not bringing Trayvons 7' arms up at trial. For the money they're getting you'd think they'd include this very important detail!

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