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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA successful anti-rape campaign yields an idiotic response from men's rights activists
. . .this whole not blaming victims and educating men regarding consent thing has not sat well with everybody. Mens Rights Edmonton has countered with its own campaign, telling women, Dont Be That Girl. Crudely ripping off the imagery of the original campaign, its posters, which have been cropping up in Edmonton, warn Just because you regret a one night stand doesnt mean it wasnt consensual, Just because you regret your life choices, doesnt mean its rape and Women who drink are not responsible for their actions especially when sex is involved. And they remind, Lying about sexual assault = a crime.
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Its not that false accusations dont happen, or that the havoc they wreak isnt real. The problem is the idiotic defensive assumption that a campaign expressly created to educate men and women about consent merits a hateful, finger-pointing response. And it makes the classic presumption that getting drunk, hooking up and then crying rape is a standard chick operating procedure an idea that is based, by the way, on no solid statistical evidence.
The anti-feminism Mens Rights group has happily seized upon the attention its stunt has gained, obscenely comparing its cause to the death of Emmett Till. But the murder of Till was not about rape hysteria or MALE human rights, geniuses. And when you say, Sexual violations, including rape, can be committed by anyone. While a majority of reported sexual assaults are committed by men, associating or claiming all men are potential rapists is analogous to claiming all minorities will commit theft, Im almost too bored by the spectacular, lazy stupidity on display here to comment. Ill just say this nobody thinks all men are potential rapists. Talking about rape isnt the same as accusing anybody of rape. And when theres a public awareness campaign to address the kind of thinking that leads to guys deciding that an unconscious female is fair game to sexually assault, a campaign that seems to have successfully reduced crime, that is a good thing. Tellingly, a member of the Mens Rights group who identifies only as Raz told The Star this week, This is something that has negatively impacted my family and my life and nobody is talking about."
There will always be those who pitch a fit whenever an issue that touches a nerve is confronted head on. They will get defensive whenever violence or sexual assault are addressed, leaping into the fray to shout, Women abuse too! Women LIE! Easy there, sports. Theres no vast man-hating conspiracy. Thats not what these campaigns are about. And if in your egomania and paranoia youve chosen to view them that way, thats your problem. But dont inflict it on others. Dont paper the town with your tinfoil hat rhetoric about how false rape is as big a problem as real rape, or your theory that any reported sexual assault involving drugs or alcohol must be some feminist revisionism of a consensual act. Dont put your crap on everybody else. Because it just makes you seem like the thing you seem to despise most self-appointed victims.
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Its not that false accusations dont happen, or that the havoc they wreak isnt real. The problem is the idiotic defensive assumption that a campaign expressly created to educate men and women about consent merits a hateful, finger-pointing response. And it makes the classic presumption that getting drunk, hooking up and then crying rape is a standard chick operating procedure an idea that is based, by the way, on no solid statistical evidence.
The anti-feminism Mens Rights group has happily seized upon the attention its stunt has gained, obscenely comparing its cause to the death of Emmett Till. But the murder of Till was not about rape hysteria or MALE human rights, geniuses. And when you say, Sexual violations, including rape, can be committed by anyone. While a majority of reported sexual assaults are committed by men, associating or claiming all men are potential rapists is analogous to claiming all minorities will commit theft, Im almost too bored by the spectacular, lazy stupidity on display here to comment. Ill just say this nobody thinks all men are potential rapists. Talking about rape isnt the same as accusing anybody of rape. And when theres a public awareness campaign to address the kind of thinking that leads to guys deciding that an unconscious female is fair game to sexually assault, a campaign that seems to have successfully reduced crime, that is a good thing. Tellingly, a member of the Mens Rights group who identifies only as Raz told The Star this week, This is something that has negatively impacted my family and my life and nobody is talking about."
There will always be those who pitch a fit whenever an issue that touches a nerve is confronted head on. They will get defensive whenever violence or sexual assault are addressed, leaping into the fray to shout, Women abuse too! Women LIE! Easy there, sports. Theres no vast man-hating conspiracy. Thats not what these campaigns are about. And if in your egomania and paranoia youve chosen to view them that way, thats your problem. But dont inflict it on others. Dont paper the town with your tinfoil hat rhetoric about how false rape is as big a problem as real rape, or your theory that any reported sexual assault involving drugs or alcohol must be some feminist revisionism of a consensual act. Dont put your crap on everybody else. Because it just makes you seem like the thing you seem to despise most self-appointed victims.
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A successful anti-rape campaign yields an idiotic response from men's rights activists (Original Post)
Triana
Jul 2013
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(1,799 posts)1. Wow, that's pretty disgusting.
Since most rapes aren't even reported, how many false claims are there? I have to believe the number is minuscule. It seems like these men just want to blame women for rape rather than look at their own gender's behavior.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)2. Rape is horrible. False allegations of rape are also horrible. (nt)