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Just imagine, if an armed black guy thought a white guy looked suspicious, and he followed him and (Original Post) garybeck Jul 2013 OP
The Black Fellow, Sir, Would Be Into His Second Year In Prison.... The Magistrate Jul 2013 #1
agreed. n/t garybeck Jul 2013 #2
And we never would have heard of either of them. nt onehandle Jul 2013 #5
or long dead Sir malaise Jul 2013 #9
Precisely. n/t Blackford Jul 2013 #16
First degree murder , double life without parole or death penalty. bravenak Jul 2013 #3
and he'd be making slave widgets for Corporation XXX in prison Whisp Jul 2013 #19
perspective NJCher Jul 2013 #4
Can't imagine... pipi_k Jul 2013 #6
No, however it did indicate that an incompetent prosecution was undermined by corrupt cops... MrScorpio Jul 2013 #7
ahhh kimsterdemster Jul 2013 #8
For being a douche, not for being a murderer. NM_Birder Jul 2013 #13
He is in jail... pipi_k Jul 2013 #23
If a black man is involed as victim NM_Birder Jul 2013 #10
Seems like pipi_k Jul 2013 #25
Ah yes. HappyMe Jul 2013 #12
You could just see it coming, couldn't you? NoGOPZone Jul 2013 #20
Yup. HappyMe Jul 2013 #22
Is there something pipi_k Jul 2013 #26
The only thing these 2 cases HappyMe Jul 2013 #30
He got away with it thanks to Mark Fuhrman and gross mistakes by the State... Spazito Jul 2013 #14
Right pipi_k Jul 2013 #28
Given that no one in this thread, by your own post, brought in racist juries... Spazito Jul 2013 #31
if you're talking about OJ, that's not a good example. He had lots of cash. garybeck Jul 2013 #27
More than pipi_k Jul 2013 #29
I've often thought about that NoGOPZone Jul 2013 #11
What about an older larger Mexican, and a skinny 17 year old black kid ? Racist or murderer ? NM_Birder Jul 2013 #15
IDK kimsterdemster Jul 2013 #21
The black guy would already be 1.5 years into his life sentence. JoePhilly Jul 2013 #17
a white kid guy yet. yes, you are absolutely right. Whisp Jul 2013 #18
nothing would change as far as I am concerned hfojvt Jul 2013 #24
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
3. First degree murder , double life without parole or death penalty.
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 10:43 AM
Jul 2013

Solitary until he gets the gas.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
6. Can't imagine...
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 11:38 AM
Jul 2013

but I do know what happened when a black guy killed his (white) ex wife and her (white) man friend.

And got away with it.


Maybe the jury was racist?



MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
7. No, however it did indicate that an incompetent prosecution was undermined by corrupt cops...
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 11:41 AM
Jul 2013

And THAT fact was exploited by a the defendant's legal Dream Team

 

NM_Birder

(1,591 posts)
13. For being a douche, not for being a murderer.
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 11:53 AM
Jul 2013

His golf game was interrupted...briefly. Until he was convicted of being a bully douche bag, over sports memorabilia .


pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
23. He is in jail...
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 12:08 PM
Jul 2013

but not for murder.

I actually thought the case against him for robbery or whatever was pretty lame.

Yet he's in prison. Racist jury?

He got away with murder in 1995. Racist jury?



 

NM_Birder

(1,591 posts)
10. If a black man is involed as victim
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 11:50 AM
Jul 2013

or perpetrator, the only thing that matters is making sure RACISM is drilled into everyone's brain first and foremost.

Don't make too much sense, it goes against the grain.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
25. Seems like
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 12:12 PM
Jul 2013

"isms" are a pretty all-purpose accusation for lots of stuff around here.

Don't like Obama? RACIST!!!

Didn't like Hilary Clinton in 2008? SEXIST!!!

etc., etc....

NoGOPZone

(2,971 posts)
20. You could just see it coming, couldn't you?
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 12:01 PM
Jul 2013

OJ's worked his way into almost every one of these threads.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
22. Yup.
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 12:06 PM
Jul 2013

But, but, but....he got away with it!!1

OJ shouldn't have gotten away with it. Comparing these 2 cases is just goofy.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
30. The only thing these 2 cases
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 12:30 PM
Jul 2013

have in common, is that they are both murder cases. And also maybe the fact that the cops in both are inept asshats.

Beyond that, there is no comparison. Why people insist on dragging OJ into this is beyond me.

Spazito

(50,338 posts)
14. He got away with it thanks to Mark Fuhrman and gross mistakes by the State...
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 11:55 AM
Jul 2013

"Fuhrman gave a taped interview in 1985 to Laura McKinney, an aspiring screenwriter working on a screenplay about female police officers. Fuhrman bragged about his membership in the secret organization within the LAPD known as MAW, or Men Against Women. In further interviews, Fuhrman bragged about beating and torturing gang members, "we had them begging that they'd never be gang members again, begging us." Fuhrman's negative attitude toward African-Americans was also evident in the taped interview. He said that he would tell blacks, "You do what you're told, understand, nigger?"

His perjurious denial of the use--in the ten years prior to the trial--of the term "nigger" brought immediate world-wide condemnation. Even the prosecution denounced Fuhrman in their closing arguments, calling him a "bad cop." "


http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/simpson/fuhrman.htm

The State KNEW the tape existed before and, instead of addressing it at the time Fuhrman was testifying for the State to try and mitigate it before the defense brought it up, they decided to risk it and not address it at all. BIG mistake as we saw given the verdict.

It was Chris Darden, for the State, who made the egregious mistake of having Simpson try on the glove, the same glove Mark Fuhrman found.

I have not a scintilla of doubt Simpson did it but I was pretty sure he was going to get off because of the mistakes made by the State, it was unfortunate, to say the least.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
28. Right
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 12:21 PM
Jul 2013

He probably did get away with it because of an incompetent prosecution.

And if Zimmerman gets off, it will have been for one of two reasons...

1. He's not guilty or

2. He's guilty but the prosecution did not prove its case

Not that the jury is stupid, or racist or whatever.

If nobody wants to call the OJ jury racists, then nobody should call the Zimmerman jury racists, either. Not that anyone has in this thread, as far as I can see...but I have seen it in other threads, and it sucks.

Spazito

(50,338 posts)
31. Given that no one in this thread, by your own post, brought in racist juries...
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 12:51 PM
Jul 2013

except you, why did you raise it at all?

NoGOPZone

(2,971 posts)
11. I've often thought about that
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 11:51 AM
Jul 2013

however, I would replace white guy with skinny white seventeen year old to get a better perspective on what the reaction would be.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
18. a white kid guy yet. yes, you are absolutely right.
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 11:58 AM
Jul 2013

for anyone who believe that there really is no racism (omg what stupid people), ask yourself this.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
24. nothing would change as far as I am concerned
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 12:10 PM
Jul 2013

the guy who is getting beat up has a right to defend himself, irregardless of the color of his skin or the color of his attacker's skin.

But I can tell you for a fact that a black kid can kill a white kid, serve a mere 18 months and get out with ZERO, NO national uproar at all. http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2011-06-15/news/bs-md-ar-george-hearing-20110615_1_juvenile-facility-javel-m-george-crofton-youth

But it's cool, because it was an accidental death. Javel did not mean to kill Chris Jones, he only wanted to beat the crap out of him.

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