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kentuck

(111,092 posts)
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 10:29 AM Jul 2013

Your weapon is drawn or your hand is on your weapon if...

...you are fearful or you are in a place you do not feel secure. Even if you are in your home and you think you hear something suspicious, you do not put your weapon in your back holster.

If you following a suspicious person in the dark, would your gun be in the holster?

I don't think so. What is your opinion?

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Your weapon is drawn or your hand is on your weapon if... (Original Post) kentuck Jul 2013 OP
Yep.. Punkingal Jul 2013 #1
My opinion is premium Jul 2013 #2
you have access to it loyalsister Jul 2013 #3
kentuck JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #4
Same here. Never followed a suspicious person in the dark. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2013 #13
You're not a cop. Why are you following scary black teens? NightWatcher Jul 2013 #5
This is what I think is the fundamental JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #6
No, you don't put the firearm into the holster located in the small of your back. byeya Jul 2013 #7
Yes, I think it would justanaverageguy Jul 2013 #8
Legally you can't draw the gun just because someone is suspicious Lurks Often Jul 2013 #9
^^^This^^^. premium Jul 2013 #10
In many states it's not considered brandishing if you hold the weapon by your side with byeya Jul 2013 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #12
Gun in holster for all of the above. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #14
 

premium

(3,731 posts)
2. My opinion is
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 10:34 AM
Jul 2013

that I don't have an opinion, I wasn't there that night and there's no evidence either way.

JustAnotherGen

(31,819 posts)
4. kentuck
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 10:36 AM
Jul 2013

I can't answer the question.

I've never followed a suspicious person in the dark.


I wouldn't follow a suspicious person in the dark.

We DO have fire arms in our home.

But I would never leave the safety of my home and take my gun out in the streets to follow a suspicious person.


I pay my taxes. We have an excellent police force where I live and that's what I pay taxes for.


Many have degrees in criminal justice and they often come from training in the State Troopers or Newark / Elizabeth /Camden . . . they are dying to get a chance to come out to my community in 'horse country'.

It's just my perspective of course - but there is someone better qualified and trained than me to handle that situation.

That's why when I call 911 I sit tight and let the big women (we have two women who patrol our neighborhood most of the time now) handle it. It's their job. Not mine.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
13. Same here. Never followed a suspicious person in the dark.
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 11:29 AM
Jul 2013

I'm not a cop...it's not my job.

I've avoided suspicious persons in the dark a time or two. Pistol stayed in the holster, the times I had one...as it wasn't needed.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
5. You're not a cop. Why are you following scary black teens?
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 10:37 AM
Jul 2013

Go back home and finish your pizza, jerk off to Dirty Harry, and go to bed.

JustAnotherGen

(31,819 posts)
6. This is what I think is the fundamental
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 10:41 AM
Jul 2013

Distinction between people who want to give Zimmerman allllllll kinds of benefit of the doubt - and people who think he's a jackass. Seriously.

To me - it makes absolutely NO SENSE whatsoever to do what he did when he is not a member of the Police Force, the DEA, the CIA, the FBI etc. etc. . . . who did he think he was? Clarice Starling? For god's sake! Keep your ass right where it is and let the REAL cops handle the situation.

 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
7. No, you don't put the firearm into the holster located in the small of your back.
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 11:02 AM
Jul 2013

I know that apparently many plain clothes officers have their holsters located there but to remove the gun and point it forward, at an early point of this process the barrel is pointing into your body and your arm is in an awkward position. Either a holster on your belt(either side) or a shoulder holster is safer for you and allows quicker access.

justanaverageguy

(186 posts)
8. Yes, I think it would
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 11:07 AM
Jul 2013

Following someone that I think may be up to no good doesn't mean that I'm so afraid that I need to have my gun in hand.

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
9. Legally you can't draw the gun just because someone is suspicious
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 11:13 AM
Jul 2013

there has to be some sort of threat, one that you would need to be able to substantiate to at least the police if not to a jury.

To put in more plainly, if the prosecution had been able to prove that Zimmerman had his gun out then he should be found guilty of at least manslaughter.

But you don't convict people on guesses and what we "think" happened.

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
10. ^^^This^^^.
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 11:22 AM
Jul 2013

Drawing you weapon when their is no threat at the time is considered brandishing, which is a crime, and, like you said, if the state could've proven it, they damn well would've charged him.

 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
11. In many states it's not considered brandishing if you hold the weapon by your side with
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 11:24 AM
Jul 2013

the barrel pointing to the ground and don't move it from this position.

Response to kentuck (Original post)

 

Decoy of Fenris

(1,954 posts)
14. Gun in holster for all of the above.
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 11:34 AM
Jul 2013

Basic gun training: Do not have either your finger on the trigger or your gun drawn/pointed unless you have every intention to fire it and/or kill.

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