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NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 11:15 AM Feb 2012

Palin Still Trying To Figure Out Unemployment Stats: "I Do Not Believe {Numbers} Are Accurate"

http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201202160007

Palin Still Trying To Figure Out Unemployment Stats: "I Do Not Believe {Unemployment Numbers} Are Accurate"

February 16, 2012 12:38 pm ET

From the February 16 edition of Fox News' Happening Now:

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Palin Still Trying To Figure Out Unemployment Stats: "I Do Not Believe {Numbers} Are Accurate" (Original Post) NNN0LHI Feb 2012 OP
well, sarah dear, why don't you put forth your own numbers? spanone Feb 2012 #1
and explain how she ascertained them niyad Feb 2012 #2
They can't be accurate in her idea of utpoia liberal N proud Feb 2012 #3
Forget statistics, she's still trying to figure out addition and subtraction. lastlib Feb 2012 #4
Sarah, one thing I know wilt the stilt Feb 2012 #5
is this sarcastic because I really can't imagine her a great student Demonaut Feb 2012 #9
Well, actually, they aren't MadHound Feb 2012 #6
+1. nt. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2012 #10
Bet she's a huge (but secret) Harry Potter fan. nt DCKit Feb 2012 #7
She must read DU. Same schtick abounds here. nt dmallind Feb 2012 #8
That semi-literate 'moran' figure out the difference between a fork malaise Feb 2012 #11
Sarah Darling, I believe you learned that little nugget back in high school Brother Buzz Feb 2012 #12

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
3. They can't be accurate in her idea of utpoia
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 11:24 AM
Feb 2012

It is an election year with a Democratic incumbent and they don't want the ecomony to improve.

The nerve, the economy improving and how it could help Obama, whatever will Caribou Barbie do!

 

wilt the stilt

(4,528 posts)
5. Sarah, one thing I know
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 11:29 AM
Feb 2012

from your college transcripts that you were and excellent math, quantitative analysis, and statistics student therefore I know you have a deep understanding of the methodology.

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
6. Well, actually, they aren't
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 11:29 AM
Feb 2012

And they haven't been for a long, long while.

Presidents and politicians like to put the best possible spin on the figures, so over the years they've massaged them in order to make them look better. Seasonal adjustments were one big move. Another was Reagan's move to count the military as being employed in the civilian work force. And yes, Palin is correct about a couple of things(after all, a stopped clock is right twice a day). The lowering U3 numbers(the figure that gets broadcast by the media) don't reflect the increase of discouraged workers and underemployed workers.

Again, the inaccuracy of the unemployment numbers has been pointed out under presidents ranging from Reagan to Bush II and now to Obama. It has been estimated that if we counted the unemployed like we did under FDR, our current number would be well into the double digit range.

This also applies to other big government statistics. Another favorite number for politicians and presidents to massage is the inflation rate. CPI has been massaged to keep artificially low in order to get maximum propaganda value. Things like not including "volatile" food and fuel prices. Thus, we are left wondering why our paychecks are disappearing at an ever increasing rate, while inflation remains steady.

Frankly, a lot of these numbers serve nothing more than propaganda value, and you should take them with a huge grain of salt.

malaise

(268,997 posts)
11. That semi-literate 'moran' figure out the difference between a fork
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 11:44 AM
Feb 2012

and a spoon.

Why doesn't she STFU and go away,

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