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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsConsidering Snowden Has Highlighted Spying By the US, Germany, France, Britain, Australia
New Zealand and Canada so far
. maybe, just MAYBE it isn't just the pols and surveillance industry parasites within the USA who want him to shut the fuck up.
I'd say I'm starting to appreciate Snowden but it's a crying shame he is only casting a light on countries who are stable democracies and relatively open societies.
Skittles
(153,199 posts)???
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Skittles
(153,199 posts)it cannot be healthy
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)in all honesty.
Skittles
(153,199 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Skittles
(153,199 posts)as good a place to exit as any
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Please try to not do that. This is how discussions become a clusterfuck. I'll admit I'm guilty of it as are many DUers, but I'm trying to be more civil and you should too.
Pholus
(4,062 posts)Precisely because they are capable of self examination?
And defines the distinction....
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Sometimes we even cast light so bright it shows things that aren't even there.
That happened in 2003.
It didn't make for a more open society in Iraq.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)It calls into question how open they are.
dkf
(37,305 posts)Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)Democracyinkind
(4,015 posts)And it isn't even being relegated to the dungeon. These are the important questions of our time. It's sad that it took someone like Snowden to get the debate started.
But I think the whole affair will fizzle out and DU won't be reliving these discussions until president select Jeb forces them on us.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)maybe it's only Republicans who are that ruthless.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)That's what police states do.