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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 08:04 PM Jul 2013

Daily CEO Pay Now Exceeds the Average Worker's Annual Salary

In 1965, the average CEO made 20 times the average worker. Now the ratio is 273 to 1, meaning the average CEO makes in a day what their workers make in a year.

U.S. corporate CEO salaries rose 16 percent in 2012 according to a new report from research firm Equilar. Top salary: Larry Ellison of Oracle - over $96 million. Top exit bonus: James Mulva of ConocoPhillips - $156 million.

Average salary for the CEOs of the top 200 U.S. companies with revenue of over $1 billion was $5.3 million. The big money, however, is paid out in stock and options which added another $9 million to the median compensation package for the CEOs.

Worst off were the workers at these companies whose median pay is now at a historic low compared to the CEOs. In 1965, according to a new report from the Economic Policy Institute, the average CEO made 20 times the average worker. Now the ratio is 273 to 1 ie the average CEO's daily salary is now greater than the annual salary of their workers.

Ellison did even better - he was paid the equivalent of the average U.S. salary of $45,790 every single hour last year.

http://thecontributor.com/daily-ceo-pay-now-exceeds-us-workers-annual-salary

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Daily CEO Pay Now Exceeds the Average Worker's Annual Salary (Original Post) The Straight Story Jul 2013 OP
The Oligarchs Own The Politicians And Control The System For Their Benefit cantbeserious Jul 2013 #1
Disgusting Dwayne Hicks Jul 2013 #2
Good post, TSS TransitJohn Jul 2013 #3
Mulva? Seinfeld? CurtEastPoint Jul 2013 #4
so of course they can't fund Soc. Sec.!!!!! RainDog Jul 2013 #5
So it took him just under three hours to pay his social security taxes for the entire yr. SammyWinstonJack Jul 2013 #12
The fica cap needs to be taken off RainDog Jul 2013 #17
Don't hate the playa, hate the game.... socialist_n_TN Jul 2013 #26
Haven't you heard? We're Broke!!! reformist2 Jul 2013 #20
Another win for the plutocracy! Rex Jul 2013 #6
greed and the never-ending need for more fascisthunter Jul 2013 #7
It is a disease imo. Rex Jul 2013 #9
It is a disease. It's a strange disease, though, in that it hurts people who don't have it. tclambert Jul 2013 #30
I don't like the idea of violent revolution IrishAyes Jul 2013 #8
We need a general strike like the French do. The Wizard Jul 2013 #10
Despicable, greedy, and obscene. SammyWinstonJack Jul 2013 #11
The Corporate Megalomaniacs-- chervilant Jul 2013 #13
Dailly? No wonder we are up a creek. tblue Jul 2013 #14
George Carlin was right - it's a big club and we're not in it. Initech Jul 2013 #15
How stupid are we, that we can't get a consensus that redistribution is in order? reformist2 Jul 2013 #16
Too stupid to live in a democracy, for too many RainDog Jul 2013 #18
As Huey Long once said (paraphrasing)... socialist_n_TN Jul 2013 #27
He was right! reformist2 Jul 2013 #31
And THIS is being touted and ballyhooed by the Democratic Party leadership as a "RECOVERY"!!! bvar22 Jul 2013 #19
what a sad state of affairs miked62916 Jul 2013 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author uppityperson Jul 2013 #22
And that's strictly salary. HughBeaumont Jul 2013 #23
He bought up 24 homes in Malibu: The Straight Story Jul 2013 #24
I'm going to sit on my apathetic fat American ass and do nothing about this. Apophis Jul 2013 #25
Yeah, but sometimes Larry Ellison would work through his lunch hour . . . tclambert Jul 2013 #28
Robber Barons. nt Jasana Jul 2013 #29
K&R liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #32
 

Dwayne Hicks

(637 posts)
2. Disgusting
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 08:08 PM
Jul 2013

But of course tea baggers will simply say "he earned it" and that we are just jealous and communists for wanting better pay. See its "freedom" when a CEO can rake in all the money despite the company failing, but its "socialism" when those communist unions strike for better pay, those greedy "takers".

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
5. so of course they can't fund Soc. Sec.!!!!!
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 08:52 PM
Jul 2013

and OF COURSE social security has to be altered because, really, how can they expect to live on less?

those strivers! they've earned those salaries the boards packed with friends and relatives have voted on for them.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
17. The fica cap needs to be taken off
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 04:19 PM
Jul 2013

anyone who earns more than $120,000 a year can afford to fund social security.

especially when you know assholes like the Waltons have made fortunes tossing employees on welfare rolls to make a buck.

My language is getting more and more hostile toward the rich these days. I am not a violent person, but sometimes my words are - and what I wish for people like the Waltons and this guy is not something I can say out loud.

Hatred of the rich, however, has been earned by too many of them.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
26. Don't hate the playa, hate the game....
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 08:19 PM
Jul 2013

Although the wealthy who believe they are entitled to this kind of obscene wealth might deserve a few choice words and violent thoughts, it's really the system of end stage capitalism that allows this kind of inequality of wealth and income.

 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
7. greed and the never-ending need for more
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 08:58 PM
Jul 2013

some call it hoarding... I call it a sickness, that the world supports.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
8. I don't like the idea of violent revolution
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 09:35 PM
Jul 2013

But that's what always happens when things get this skewed. Always. Katie, bar the door.

The Wizard

(12,749 posts)
10. We need a general strike like the French do.
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 09:35 PM
Jul 2013

In France the government fears the people. In the U.S. the people fear the government.
But but but this is the land of the free and home of the brave, maybe once upon a time.

SammyWinstonJack

(44,147 posts)
11. Despicable, greedy, and obscene.
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 09:43 PM
Jul 2013

This is especially despicable...


Ellison did even better - he was paid the equivalent of the average U.S. salary of $45,790 every single hour last year.




chervilant

(8,267 posts)
13. The Corporate Megalomaniacs--
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 10:16 PM
Jul 2013

who've usurped our media, our politics, AND our global economy--are doing whatever it takes to secure their hegemony.

As Zappa so wisely noted, when it's no longer profitable for them to keep up the facade that we still live in a Democracy, the uber wealthy sociopaths will just take down the scenery, so to speak.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
14. Dailly? No wonder we are up a creek.
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 10:24 PM
Jul 2013

Totally outta whack our economy is. The global economy actually. This is precisely the recipe for a failed democracy. It's no accident either.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
16. How stupid are we, that we can't get a consensus that redistribution is in order?
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 11:40 PM
Jul 2013

Even from a clinical, scientific point of view, it only makes sense that in order to have a more vibrant economy, you don't want piles of money amassing at the periphery - you would want that money to be put back into circulation somehow!

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
18. Too stupid to live in a democracy, for too many
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 04:26 PM
Jul 2013

Americans don't even know how unequal income distribution is in this nation. They assume everyone is better off than they are, and that income inequality is no where near what it actually is.

when they are asked what they think an ideal income distribution is for the U.S. - they prefer Sweden's social democracy model.

when asked what they think income distribution actually is in the U.S., they assume it's like a social democracy model. But it isn't.

however, when asked how to deal with this income inequality, they don't make the connection between taxes for the wealthy and their own well being - they don't understand how income inequality is dealt with in healthy, functioning western democracies.

the reason they don't understand this is because our media is full of worthless little shits who kiss the ass of the rich.

if people were shown the reality of what income redistribution achieved in this nation and what it achieves in others - they wouldn't be so stupid.

Income redistribution is what created the American middle class.

This same middle class is now too stupid to vote in its own economic interest.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
27. As Huey Long once said (paraphrasing)...
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 08:22 PM
Jul 2013

Money is like manure. You spread it around in a garden and it makes everything grow. You pile it up in one place and it just stinks.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
19. And THIS is being touted and ballyhooed by the Democratic Party leadership as a "RECOVERY"!!!
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 05:00 PM
Jul 2013

Thanks for the link.
Added to the list of Economic Outrages and Crimes against the Working Class:


Daily CEO Pay Now Exceeds the Average Worker's Annual Salary –
http://thecontributor.com/daily-ceo-pay-now-exceeds-us-workers-annual-salary




76% of Americans are living paycheck-to-paycheck
http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/24/pf/emergency-savings/index.html


New Rule (Passed by Congress and signed by President Obama) signals Kiss of Death for Pensions
http://www.cnbc.com/id/100694955

Wealthy win lion's share of major tax breaks
http://www.boston.com/business/news/2013/05/29/wealthy-win-lion-share-major-tax-breaks/Ua0UyYle21EUXub7g1suCI/story.html

Half of America is in poverty, and its creeping toward 75%
http://www.alternet.org/economy/real-numbers-half-america-poverty-and-its-creeping-toward-75-0

Wealth gap widens as labor's share of income falls
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/wealth-gap-widens-labors-share-income-falls-1B6097385

As the Economy Recovers, the Wealth Gap Widens
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/rick-newman/2013/03/11/as-the-economy-recovers-the-wealth-gap-widens

Top One Percent Captured 121 Percent Of All Income Gains
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/12/top-one-percent-income-gains_n_2670455.html

Corporate Profits Hit Record High While Worker Wages Hit Record Low
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/12/03/1270541/corporate-profits-wages-record/?mobile=nc


These things ^ do NOT happen by accident.
They take careful planning, preparation, marketing, buying the right politicians, message control, and the marginalization of any opposition.


When the Working Class & The Poor realize WE have more in common with each other
than we have in common with the Rich 1% Ruling Class and their Mouth Pieces in Washington,
THEN we can have "change".



You will know them by their [font size=3]WORKS,[/font]
not by their promises or excuses.

 

miked62916

(51 posts)
21. what a sad state of affairs
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 06:40 PM
Jul 2013

We should tax the greedy fat cats as much as possible. That way, we could help alleviate the growing income inequality in this country.

Response to miked62916 (Reply #21)

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
23. And that's strictly salary.
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 07:26 PM
Jul 2013

If we're talking wealth

Each time Larry Ellison coughs, sneezes or yawns, he makes $100.
With one one-thousandth of ONE PERCENT of his wealth, he could purchase a $310,000 home with cash . . . and make the money back within four hours. Six McMansions a day . . . And it would not make one DENT in his personal worth.

Just one of the many examples of how we "punish success" in America . . . so you should just forget about taxing the Larry Ellisons of the world because if you do that, he'd be forced to live in a grass hut or something . . . . . .

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
24. He bought up 24 homes in Malibu:
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 07:46 PM
Jul 2013

The Oracle Corp. chief executive has bought nearly two dozen properties in the beach community, according to a public records search conducted for The Times by PropertyShark.com.

Ellison has spent an estimated $200 million to $250 million through at least nine purchases, in one case of multiple homes, on coveted Carbon Beach. Along the way, the software tycoon dropped millions on a wooded estate near the Franciscan friars in gated Serra Retreat. He also has bought an inland tennis club, Casa Malibu Inn and coastal restaurant property.

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/may/05/business/la-fi-ellison-malibu-20130505

 

Apophis

(1,407 posts)
25. I'm going to sit on my apathetic fat American ass and do nothing about this.
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 07:50 PM
Jul 2013

Because celebrity news, gossip, and sports stats and scores are more important.



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