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The Guardians Glenn Greenwald expanded his feud with Meet the Press host David Gregory to include CNBC analyst Andrew Ross Sorkin in an interview with The Washington Posts Erik Wemple on Monday. In that interview, Greenwald lashed out at the NBC News personalities for suggesting he should be imprisoned for his work with National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden. Greenwald attacked much of the political media which he said has evolved into servants to power rather than watchdogs.
It is true that The Guardian generally, and me in particular, are outsiders, not members of the Beltway establishment media clique, Greenwald told Wemple.
Greenwald attacked Sorkin in particular who, on Monday, said that he would almost arrest The Guardian reporter for appearing to want to facilitate Snowdens request for political asylum.
Ive purposely made myself an outsider by very aggressively and harshly criticizing not just the culture itself but the most prominent members of it, including David Gregory and Andrew Ross Sorkin, who this morning suggested on CNBC that I be arrested, Greenwald said.
He said that members of the media who are attacking him are exhibiting personal bitterness and resentment over his ability to reject and breach conventions that maintain the working relationship between the press and the political establishment.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/glenn-greenwald-explodes-at-servants-to-power-in-media-theyre-defending-the-royal-court/
randome
(34,845 posts)But he's always had an adversarial relationship with other journalists. He seems to find it difficult making friends.
And yes, Sorkin is right. Greenwald, as a journalist, should only care about being 'correct'. Instead, he wants to be 'right'. That makes everything about him suspect because he has an agenda.
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Octafish
(55,745 posts)Demit
(11,238 posts)They like him, they really like him.
Octafish
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The official voice of the Republikkkon Party also seems the official voice of Big Media:
ABC and the rise of Rush Limbaugh
The other thing the great Carl Bernstein reported should've got him another Pulitzer:
The CIA and the Media
His old paper still hits a homer on occasion, most recently on how the Government has privatized Secret Government:
Top Secret America: A Hidden World.
America's mass media were virtually silent about that series, too.
And that is why our nation creeps, literally and figuratively, rightward toward the "national security state" Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. described to Charlie Rose, a story that seems to have fallen off the national consciousness PDQ.
PS: This post really has four things everyone should know about Corporate McPravda. I know you know that, Demit, but for those new to the subject, quite a shock.
Demit
(11,238 posts)My contribution of three things to remember about the government/corporate nexus
Btw, I like that needlework illustration. Yours?
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)And 'correct' vs. 'right'? Sounds a little hairsplitty to me.
Coccydynia
(198 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Greenwald doesn't appear to be objective. Not sure if he can be considered a journalist.
Coccydynia
(198 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)most mainstream corporate journalists allow the official sources they quote to totally frame the issue, sometimes without even attributing the source and usually with no real countervailing views or context. "Journalistic objectivity" is itself a form of advocacy journalism, simply one in favor of those in authority.
theaocp
(4,248 posts)Mr. "Both side do it"? He's very "objective" now isn't he? So "objective" that faux couldn't wait to get him on their team.
Civilization2
(649 posts)Why do you attack all the people spreading truth? Can't handle the truth?
If the agenda you ridicule is exposing deadly secret corporate-military power grabs of peoples rights,. then that is the correct agenda of a reporter. What do you think the mandate of a journalist is??
yurbud
(39,405 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Colbert's assessment of US 'journalists' as 'stenographers' sums them up for me, like David Gregory eg, whose claim to 'journalistic' fame was to 'dance with Rove'. It was GREAT symbolism though I'm sure Gregory, not the sharpest knife in the drawer, missed it entirely. Rove otoh, probably planned it. He likes to rub the control he has over the media in THEIR and OUR faces.
Greenwald is the epitome of what a journalist should be.
I'm interested in where you have managed to find any journalists in the US media and who they are?
Wait, you're not seriously calling Gregory a journalist are you??
Sorry, seriously, who in your opinion is an actual journalist?
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)railsback
(1,881 posts)Snowden has his face buried in his hands.
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Coccydynia
(198 posts)Marr
(20,317 posts)There's a reason guys like Gregory get promoted in the corporate media, and it shouldn't be surprising to anyone over the age of 12. They please the people who pay them. The media figures who have been most critical of Greenwald lately are, for the most part, well-paid, long time Beltway insiders who rarely do anything but parrot the establishment's official talking points.
The Second Stone
(2,900 posts)cockroaches. And for some reason, they don't scurry for the darkness. They scream at the small potatoes criminal Snowden and hope we are distracted enough to notice that they spy on our every move and overwhelmingly tax us, but don't tax corporations like General Electric.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)The guy stands up to Corporate McPravda. Thank you for the heads-up, avaistheone1.
PS: People who believe in democracy prefer Glenn Greenwald to Cass Sunstein.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002797594
MattFromKY
(43 posts)A white supremacist that wanted/threatened to kill a federal judge.
His defense: 'This speech should be protected.'
Octafish
(55,745 posts)I'd always believed, too, that in the United States, even those we don't agree with have a right to speak. I guess that's become passe.
MattFromKY
(43 posts)And the fact that he offered his services for free says a lot about the man I'm supposed to trust reporting on my government.
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)MattFromKY
(43 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)'First Amendment' case.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)with the person who spoke it.
Hale had a perfect right to say what he wanted to say.
And he had a perfect right to experience any negative consequences of saying it.
Don't confuse the two.
MattFromKY
(43 posts)Just like I have a perfect right to say someone that defends such a person is full of shit and not to be trusted.
Not to mention illegally recording conversations with witnesses.
frylock
(34,825 posts)of history. I hope you don't enjoy your stay.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)the original representation of Mr. Hale?????
Since it was a trademark case, kindly tell us? It was only after Mr. Hale had lost the trademark case, and was being sued under anti-Klan statutes for his participation in a killing spree that any 'First Amendment' representation was talked about.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)isn't that rich?
Coccydynia
(198 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)the facts of that story, due to the fact that people here are far too smart and way too well informed to be fooled by a smear like that.
This deliberately disingenuous attempt at a smear has been dredged up by the usual suspects so many times and debunked so effectively, with something you might want to familiarize yourself with, 'FACTS', that it is laughable to see it here yet again. Some people are just gluttons for punishment.
Let me know if you want the FACTS surrounding that garbage.
What's even funnier seeing this tried over and over again, is that Greenwald's record is so pristine, this is the ONLY thing their 'opposition researchers' could come up with in nearly EIGHT years of attacks. And it is so easy to debunk at that.
I hope they didn't pay HB Gary too much for that failure of a smear tactic.
WELCOME to DU. Stick around, you'll learn a few things, like how not to discredit yourself by spreading old right wing propaganda. Yes, this old garbage was first introduced when Greenwald was going after Bush.
Iow, it's the equivalent of an old, discarded rag, picked up and used over and over again, deteriorating more each time it is used .... They need some new rags. But I guess they couldn't find any.
xchrom
(108,903 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)going on. It's the NEW WORLD...and it's the REAL CHANGE WORLD!
It's all Morphing under us........
It's not comfortable...but, it has to happen.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)MattFromKY
(43 posts)JPMorgan, Bank of America, Goldman Sachs and Larry Silverstein... all clients of Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz.
He still enjoys the fruits of his labor, relaxing on an enormous estate in Brazil. It's on a hill that overlooks the poorest parts of the country.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Hard for you centrists to keep the anti gay bullshit in check.
MattFromKY
(43 posts)Wow, a lot of people are going off the deep end trying to defend this man.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)does David Gregory live? How about Hannity, O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Russert's son, another excuse for a 'journalist', where does he live? How about the rest of the 'backwash' we call 'news reporters?? All living like kings, aren't they, but unlike Greenwald they are living here because there are no laws taking away their Civil Rights, as is the case with him.
Our propagandists do very well for themselves for serving their Corporate Bosses.
I see you are focused like a laser beam on what is important here. However, to be honest, I don't give a rats ass where any of them live.
But you haven't weighed in what apparently you are working hard to distract from, on the massive surveillance program our government is conducting on Americans.
How do you like living in a country that spies on its own people?
warrprayer
(4,734 posts)let me count the ways I can kiss your ass
iemitsu
(3,888 posts)Last edited Mon Jun 24, 2013, 10:38 PM - Edit history (1)
Greenwald "said that members of the media who are attacking him are exhibiting personal bitterness and resentment over his ability to reject and breach conventions that maintain the working relationship between the press and the political establishment.".
Its like closet gays bitterly denouncing those who embrace the queer life.
To get and keep their positions, network pundits make Faustian deals and they forever look with envy at those, who haven't. To justify their own lack of character, or simply to feel better about themselves, they will try to destroy anyone who is free from the compromises they have made.
dgauss
(884 posts)Maybe if they knew that, they would understand what the real travesty is here and would be o.k. with being spied on.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)And Greenwald is trying out for Court Jester!!!!
Hydra
(14,459 posts)He does an excellent job at it, most days.
Greenwald is the guy who has the anger of the Court for not keeping silent.
truth
I do like my truth to bite a little- teh stupid burns me on so many days.
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
(2,022 posts)Safetykitten
(5,162 posts)avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)sibelian
(7,804 posts)If journalists in the my country behaved like US journalists nobody would read any of the papers!
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)For a coupleof years now but I recently stayed a few days in a hotel room that had one. Having no idea what the MSM coverage had been I was sickened at the absolute echo chamber of condemnation. It's like they've been given their marching ordeirs. I can't t help but remember when Cheney and Novak outted Valerie Plame and absolutely hardly a word from the press.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)The knee-jerk circling of the wagons by the media is shocking. They are supposed to be independent, but act as mere tools for administration policy.
markiv
(1,489 posts)it's amazing, whenever they want to shove more H-1b worker replacements down our throat, the sycophants in the mainstream media push out the 'skilled worker shortage' propaganda like clockwork, wall to wall across the country
I KNOW they do this, so yea, when someone accuses them of doing the same on another issue, I'm inclined to believe it, even though I'm supposed to 'forget' how they acted on another issue
senseandsensibility
(17,201 posts)It sounds to me like he stated a strong opinion against some powerful figures in beltway journalism.