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[Lex]

1. "anyone who doesn't immediately move to fix this country"

This is the new standard for impeachment, eh?

[silvershadow]

2. Yep. In the face of a fascist takeover of our actual democracy, yes. nt

[Lex]

3. Well, good luck with that. I don't think that's the legal standard

but I wish you luck on it.

[silvershadow]

5. Thank you. Don't worry, there will be enough to meet the legal standard. I am sure of it. nt

[MannyGoldstein]

12. There is no legal standard

The Founders intended it to be that way.

[Lex]

22. Actually there is.

The Constitution provides that the President shall be removed from office only upon "Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors." U.S. Const. Art. II, § 4.

That is the legal standard.

[MannyGoldstein]

23. "High crimes and misemeanors" has no real legal meaning.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_crimes_and_misdemeanours, for example.

[Lex]

29. It is however the legal standard as per

the Constitution.

[MannyGoldstein]

38. Going back to your original claim that

the current fascist takeover isn't covered... it's covered as much as anything is.

[Lex]

44. Didn't claim that. nt

[Jackpine Radical]

39. "High crimes & misdemeanors"

are what Congress declares them to be.

[Bobbie Jo]

18. ^^^THIS^^^

[HappyMe]

24. Thank you.

Nothing ever seems to be their fault.

[silvershadow]

34. Yes. That is why I said *anyone in the OP. nt

[sharp_stick]

7. Well it sure

does show the laughable level of civics knowledge among posters here.

[silvershadow]

14. Really? How? You aren't even aware of who might be impeached or on what charges yet. Yet you

assume it can't be done? Or wouldn't? Help me out here...

[sharp_stick]

19. So what impeachible offense

or offenses have you dreamed up to go along with your wall street fury.

[silvershadow]

36. *ANY impeachable offense. Short that, primary challenges all the way. nt

[Itchinjim]

6. 83!

Oh for fuck's sake get a grip.

[silvershadow]

37. What, pray tell, is 83? Sorry, I don't have my code book handy. nt

[SidDithers]

40. Yup...

Sid

[DURHAM D]

8. You must have skipped school the day your teacher

talked about impeachable offenses.

Did you have a box to check re: Wall street bankers on your ballot?

[MannyGoldstein]

16. What do *you* think is the definition of an impeachable offense?

I think it's anything the House wants it to be.

[silvershadow]

17. No I am rattling on about many topics. The impeachment would be for an actual impeachable offense.

The wall st stuff was background about how fed up I am.

[L0oniX]

9. Obama is not the best this country has. The best wouldn't run for office anyway.

The best are too wise to run for POTUS. Frankly we don't deserve the best either and most wouldn't want the best. 50% of the US are idiots ...why would want to deal with that? So don't expect the best from any POTUS. War criminals and bankster thieves run free ...and people keep signing up for the military and investing in mutual funds ...so we have ourselves to blame too.

[The Link]

10. While those that support this are disgusting individuals, it does not rise to impeachment.

Perhaps they will evolve on the issue.

[silvershadow]

20. The only way they apparently will evolve is though a rather obvious challenge. Either thru a

primary challenge, or by making our voices heard loud and clear. Apparently twice wasn't enough.

[The Link]

21. Maybe Biden will force his hand on it, like on gay marriage.

Obama tends to lead from behind.

[silvershadow]

28. Biden needs to be President at this point. He is more for the working man than Obama is. nt

[sharp_stick]

11. At least it's only a pre-impeachment thread

I can only imagine the incredible damage an actual Impeachment thread would cause.

[RudynJack]

15. Oh good lord

It seems there's a whole lot you don't know/understand about impeachment.

[silvershadow]

25. Um, I know plenty about impeachment. That's why it's not an impeachment thread, its a Pre-

Impeachment thread. That way I can collect all of my thoughts in one place, add info as I get it, and keep track. The politicos who scan this board can see it and know that the issue hasn't died with me, as it apparently has with so many, and as I stated in the OP, impeachment could or would be attempted on those who raid the people's money- not for the raiding, but for any number of things that are sure to have taken place for which they could be charged. It's not like it hasn't happened, it has and is. We are in a truly Orwellian, post-constituional, post-legal world at this point. That's a fact. Everything else is just window dressing.

[stevenleser]

26. Self Delete Is Your Friend

This OP is an excellent example of FAIL.

[silvershadow]

31. Never. This is, in fact, my final post as far as I am concerned. I will leave it, as I

am sure I will be coming back to it.

[stevenleser]

41. Whether you recognize it or not, I'm trying to help you. This OP is extremely discrediting for you

...and you can bet that when you get into heated discussions with them, other DUers will be linking to it as evidence of your thinking skills or lack thereof.

[silvershadow]

43. Me saying I am fed up and will work to impeach anyone involved with chained CPI is discrediting?

Fair enough, I get that you think your'e trying to help. But please explain how then, because apparently people are reading something I did not say, based on all the responses. Either that, or they are mostly beltway types and politicos, at whom my post is basically about.

[Cooley Hurd]

27. I am disappointed in President Obama...

...however he has done nothing that rises to an impeachable offense.

[GeorgeGist]

32. Executing Americans without trial ...

Should be impeachable, don't you think?

[Cooley Hurd]

35. If he personally ordered the execution of Americans, yes...

Has this been proven?

[cali]

30. your op takes lame to new lows

so very many reasons why. I don't love Obama. I've been quite critical of many of his policies, but this is absurd. No way that advocating or working toward the chained CPI, odious as that is, rises to an impeachable offense. gad. that you think it does, indicates you know nothing about impeachment whatsoever.

[silvershadow]

33. I am well aware that the chained CPI is not impeachable. Wow. Did I say that? No.

I said the chained CPI is the straw that broke the camel's back. I said I will work to impeach anyone involved with chained CPI. That may mean a lot of work. It would have to be for an impeachable offense. Your high post count doesn't mean you know more than me. It just means you post a lot.

[ucrdem]

42. "Don't go overboard with the crazy talk."

DU TOS. Friend, this is the crazy talk. I'm not going to alert but can I recommend a save-to-journal-then-self-delete when you get to say, 50 answers? Because others will.

[BeyondGeography]

45. Isn't that special?

[silvershadow]

47. Yep. It is. I have had it. I actually am considering leaving the party.

[Cali_Democrat]

46. ...