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Yavin4

(35,438 posts)
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 05:47 PM Feb 2012

A Very Well Written Article on Maggie Gallagher, the Anti-Marriage Equality's Top Crusader

Gallagher's motivation does not seem to be pure homophobia. Rather, she has intellectualized a very painful personal episode in her life, and she blames the Libertine nature of our culture for her pain.

Maggie became a un-wed mother while at Yale, and the child's father coldly abandoned them. They would re-unite, but once the father coldly abandons them. As you read the article, you can tell that she still harbors pain from this.

Her crusade against ending discrimination against Gays boils down to the fact that more social liberation and more relaxtion from rigid cultural norms would result in more men coldly abandoning their children.

I don't agree with her position, and I find her reasoning hysterical. Every prohibitionist always seems to be projecting their internal personal conflicts and pain onto the world.


One prominent ally of Gallagher’s told me that the “fight is over.” There will be minor victories to come, but “we’re going to lose,” the ally said.

Those would seem to be the hard facts, the evidence on which pure thought would operate. But for Gallagher these facts are temporal, contingent and ultimately meaningless. They just appear to be facts. In an email two months after our first conversation, she explains why her opponents are mistaken: “One of the lessons I learned as a young woman from the collapse of Communism is this: Trying to build a society around a fundamental lie about human nature can be done, for a while, with intense energy (and often at great cost); but it cannot hold.



http://www.salon.com/2012/02/08/the_making_of_gay_marriages_top_foe/singleton/#comments
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A Very Well Written Article on Maggie Gallagher, the Anti-Marriage Equality's Top Crusader (Original Post) Yavin4 Feb 2012 OP
Soooooooo....let me understand this... Hepburn Feb 2012 #1
No. Not Quite. Yavin4 Feb 2012 #2
Okay atreides1 Feb 2012 #6
Yes, That's True As Well Yavin4 Feb 2012 #10
Well, you see, Virginia, all homosexuals are animals Arkana Feb 2012 #7
Her reasoning is sooo bizarre ... another blame the gay for anything, RKP5637 Feb 2012 #3
Karl Frisch interviewed the author today rurallib Feb 2012 #4
i couldn't get through the article noiretextatique Feb 2012 #5
or someone could of paid her to write this Johonny Feb 2012 #8
She didn't learn much from the collapse of Communism either... JHB Feb 2012 #9
It's really, really simple why she does what she does. xfundy Feb 2012 #11

Hepburn

(21,054 posts)
1. Soooooooo....let me understand this...
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 05:50 PM
Feb 2012

...a gay man supposedly would abandon a child he father with a women if gay marriage is legal.

WTF?

Yavin4

(35,438 posts)
2. No. Not Quite.
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 05:55 PM
Feb 2012

If a rigid social structure were in place, her baby's daddy would not have abandoned them.

The end to discrimination against Gays and Lesbians further weakens the social structure.

IOW, people cannot handle freedom, and the more freedom you give them, the more society breaks down.

More simply put, it's the age old prohibitionist argument.

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
6. Okay
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 06:20 PM
Feb 2012

But if that rigid social structure were in place, wouldn't she be considered a pariah?

She did conveive out of wedlock, and she would be the one who would ostrasized from society!

You're right, same old argument.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
7. Well, you see, Virginia, all homosexuals are animals
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 06:21 PM
Feb 2012

who can't control their basest desires and will fornicate with anything that walks into their field of vision.*























*THIS IS WHAT EVANGELICALS AND SENATOR BUTT FROTH ACTUALLY BELIEVE

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
3. Her reasoning is sooo bizarre ... another blame the gay for anything,
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 05:59 PM
Feb 2012

sounds like a Pat Robertson rant.

rurallib

(62,414 posts)
4. Karl Frisch interviewed the author today
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 06:15 PM
Feb 2012

It sounded to me like Maggie's vaunted intellectual logic breaks down and she just seems to hate gays.
Or so I gathered. Mrs. Lib talked all the way through the interview.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
5. i couldn't get through the article
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 06:19 PM
Feb 2012

she seems like someone who is bitter about her own life experience, and she projects her bitterness and anger on "the other." she also seems like your typical "do as I say and not as I do" right-wing hypocrite. she never got over losing the father of her child, and she can't accept responsibility for her part in that loss. she's been immersed in conservative ideology her entire life, which served only to confirm what she already believed...and learned from her bad relationship. and...she's wrong. she thinks men need social restraints and controls in order to be decent human beings...i don't.

Johonny

(20,850 posts)
8. or someone could of paid her to write this
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 06:26 PM
Feb 2012

she's not above taking money to suddenly have an opinion. Been caught before. She's basically GOP outrage for hire.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
9. She didn't learn much from the collapse of Communism either...
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 06:35 PM
Feb 2012

Over centralization and lack of accountability is hardly unique to the Soviets. They just had the biggest and most complete monopoly.

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
11. It's really, really simple why she does what she does.
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 09:26 PM
Feb 2012
There's a ton of money in selling hatred.

It's one of the few industries whose product is still manufactured in the good ol USA.
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