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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHard knox first /Here's your list of tax paid services to avoid, Libertarians
Don't like it? Move to #Syria #ows
Teabaggers you cannot do these things!!!
All of the below are SOCIALISM. Please forward this to your Teaparty friends who you hear complaining about paying taxes (America is 32 out of 34 nations in Corporate Taxes PAID and individuals have seen the lowest tax burden today since the 1950s) .If you are a Conservative complaining about Those Damn Liberals
it is very simple
stop using tax payer subsidized programs which were put there by Liberals. Medicare and Social Security were totally opposed by Conservatives from day 1 so they are at the top of the list. They are listed below for the convenience of your friends knowing what not to use any more so they are not hypocritical in their political beliefs. Please pass to your Teaparty friends because most if not all do not realize that these programs below are anywhere from a majority of Societal Socialism of regulation to out and out pure Socialism of government programs run with Redistributed Income
also known as TAXES.
1. Do not use Medicare.
2. Do not use Social Security
3. Do not become a member of the US military, who are paid with tax dollars. GPS is a military program so no more GPS for you!!! You are lost now.
4. Do not ask the National Guard to help you after a disaster.
5. Do not call 911 when you get hurt.
6. Do not call the police to stop intruders in your home.
7. Do not summon the fire department to save your burning home.
8. Do not drive on any paved road, highway, and interstate or drive on any bridge.
9. Do not use public restrooms.
10. Do not send your kids to public schools.
11. Do not put your trash out for city garbage collectors.
12. Do not live in areas with clean air.
13. Do not drink clean water.
14. Do not visit National Parks.
15. Do not visit public museums, zoos, and monuments.
.... to 30.
The fact is, we pay for the lifestyle we expect. Without taxes, our lifestyles would be totally different and much harder. America would be a third world country. The less we pay, the less we get in return. Americans pay less taxes today since 1958 and is ranked 32nd out of 34 of the top tax paying countries. Chile and Mexico are 33rd and 34th. The Republicans are lying when they say that we pay the highest taxes in the world and are only attacking taxes to reward corporations and the wealthy and to weaken our infrastructure and way of life. So next time you object to paying taxes or fight to abolish taxes for corporations and the wealthy, keep this quote in mind
I like to pay taxes. With them, I buy civilization. ~Oliver Wendell Holmes
http://joewo.com/WordPress/?p=8884
(Probably posted before, but worth repeating. I am sure the Syrians would love to pay taxes and have a voice.)
niyad
(113,302 posts)MattSh
(3,714 posts)You have a link for that?
tabatha
(18,795 posts)newspeak
(4,847 posts)I bet they pay "protection" money to stay alive.
chrisa
(4,524 posts)They probably work for them too to prevent their families from getting harmed. Such a sad situation.
NoGOPZone
(2,971 posts)considering how instrumental the National Science foundation was in its development?
calimary
(81,260 posts)We can all use the talking points for verbal jousts with wrong-wingers.
Or... maybe they'd like to move to Somalia?
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)idiots!
Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)I always thought Libertarianism was a philosophy for 16-year-old boys, and those who didn't mature past that point.
The more exposure I have to them (and I work in IT), the more I think so.
kctim
(3,575 posts)do not know that much about the Constitution, Federalist Papers or the founders.
It's almost errie.
Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)I've known a few 16-year old that could quote chapter and verse on the constitution, but who nevertheless lacked the maturity and knowledge of history to understand that without government oversight and regulations, society would quickly degenerate into a neo-feudalism that's far less free than what we have today.
kctim
(3,575 posts)they just have the founders ideas of limited government.
Besides, I was really just having some fun at their expense. Seems they love to quote and mention the Constitution and founders anytime they get the chance. And then when I get home and look it up, they basically have quoted word for word.
Eerie I tell ya!
Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)All the ones I've met all seem to believe in the magical hand of the free-market. I met one who said that e.g. cigarette machines in Kindergartens would not be a problem because the magical hand of the free market would punish a company who tried something like that. That conversation left me flabbergasted, frankly. I don't know of any who would support strong labour and environmental standards, either.
In fact, all of the ones I know would e.g. sell Grand Canyon Natl. Park to developers and have Fire and Police Departments be run by for-profit, fee-charging enterprises like in ancient Rome.
I wouldn't want to live in their Utopia.
kctim
(3,575 posts)the ideas of the founders, not all the different interpretations throughout the years.
It's all in how one views the balance between individual and government. They just prefer to err on the side of the individual.
kctim
(3,575 posts)Good luck with that.
tabatha
(18,795 posts)The internet would not be there if not for govt dollars.
Therefore a purist would not use anything developed by big, bad govt.
kctim
(3,575 posts)But even still, funding for the internet would not be there if "big, bad govt" did not collect taxes from everybody. Unless you want to give everybody a choice on what to contribute for things not covered by the Constitution, like Social Security, Medicare, Universal Health Care, which won't work at all.
I get your point, it's just not feasible.
tabatha
(18,795 posts)Neither was the internet.