When I was a kid the hippies hated government but now its the Teabaggers that do.

[banned from Kos]

I was an infant when the Kennedy's were assassinated and Civil Rights were enacted. It was the liberals fighting for civil rights and fighting AGAINST the Vietnam War, censorship, and oppressive government and I LOVED them for that.

Now the anti-government people are Tea Party/conservative for the most part (OWS is mixed but mostly wants government).

How did government become the enemy to many Americans? Although taxes are LOWER than ever?

[Fumesucker]

1. Tea party aren't anti-government..

They just think it should be shrunk until it will fit in a uterus.

[backscatter712]

34. Grover Norquist meets Randall Terry... n/t

[oldhippydude]

2. Ronald Wilson Reagan (666)

smiled and said "govenment canot fix the problem, Govenment is the problem" for the last 30 years, people have been electing people to govenment, who don't believe in government.. this has resulted in not only the shredding of the safety net, but all kinds of schemes to privatize public resouces, goods, and services..

how they did it is simple they took over inch by inch, first the news became entertainment, they destroyed the regulatory ability of the government, to assure profitability, and finally made sure that politicians could be purchased with odious court decisions..

throw in a theology based on hate.. bingo.. no government.. the dont trust theme has become a self fulfilling prophecy..

[banned from Kos]

5. Yes, it was Reagan but mostly his timing on the Big 3, abortion, integration, and school prayer

My parents were labor supporters who turned conservative on those 3 issues.

and those three issues came into existence ONLY in the 70s.

[Po_d Mainiac]

7. The safety net is still there

It's called socializing the risk (for da banksters) but privatizing the gains........for the 1%

ain't it great to live ina bananan republic?

[southernyankeebelle]

3. Most of those were part of the Burchers, LoRouce. They were always considered way out there

but somehow made it in this time. Many of the teabaggers don't realize who some of these groups are.

[MineralMan]

26. Do you mean Birchers and LaRouche?

[southernyankeebelle]

31. Ok you found me out. Am not the best speller. Obviously you got it, lol

thanks for the correction.

[loyalsister]

4. So many hippies turned into yuppies

They maintained their hate of government and lost their concern for others in their pursuit of wealth and self interest. When they wanted to fully disown their previous behavior, they became fundies.
Then, that's what they taught their kids who grew up in the 80s.
And, there you have your tea baggers.

[Po_d Mainiac]

6. Wake TFU

The Tea Party was astro-turfed. It started as a non-partisan anti Wall St./banana republic movement. Period. Most of the original supporters have said :middlefinger:

The current pile of crap that label themselves "Tea Party" now aka 'tea baggers' suck the Hannity dick..thus the term h-ick was born.

[banned from Kos]

8. So you say. But Feingold and Joe Sestak both lost to Wall St assholes.

They kicked ass in 2010 (so sad to admit)

[Po_d Mainiac]

10. Point?

Thems' was beat by 'tea baggers'

Meet false flag.....Too bad u was just an infant when the K's was gunned down.....udder-wise u'd be now be a bit older, & u may be salvageable.....but from other posts; on other forums, me fears u 2 b a payrole troll

"Joe, say it ain't so"

[FarLeftFist]

9. THAT IS MY MOTHER. She was a Hippie who disliked Govt. Someone explain when this changed.

I always wondered about that. Today my mother is an Independent. When and how did Govt hating Hippies become pro-active Govt Liberals? (I was born in 1980)

[Po_d Mainiac]

14. are u my son? n/t

[FarLeftFist]

15. Probably not.

[Po_d Mainiac]

20. U might b

U'z askin the right questions

[Viking12]

11. False. Hippies were not anti-govt per se. They were anti-corrupt, pro-war govt.

They obviously thought there was a role for govt as they fought for civil rights and environmental regulations.

[oldhippydude]

17. we are still around

i use this nickname for a reason... i worked for Gene Mc Carthy in 68, Mc Govern in 72, along with a radical Minister personal friend who ran for Congress.. we never went away, and many of never sold out to the big bucks.. most of had to work our butts off scince the Reagan revalution.. but we still voted..

we are the old farts that you see at OWS.. damn makes my eyes water thinking somebody finally heard!! i am lucky enough to be born on Sptember 17 1946... tha means that for my 65th birthday, i saw america start on the road, to the values we never gave up on.. thanks for the topic

[Viking12]

25. I should know better. My apologies for the use of the past tense re: hippies.

I was directly responding to the time period discussed in the o.p.

[oldhippydude]

30. none needed

there are a lot of parallels..

[prairierose]

22. Thank you for saying this..this is exactly...

the way I felt and the way many of my friends felt. We wanted to make government work better for the people and make the world better. Some of us are still working on that.

[jwirr]

35. Exactly. I do not remember much talk of getting rid of government - instead it was changing laws

such as the draft and civil rights issues etc. The idea of drowning the baby in the bathtub is rw, corporate, fundie and has nothing to do with most "hippies".

[whatchamacallit]

12. What are you talking about?

Real liberals are still fighting for the same principles, irregardless of which party is in the White House.

[Bonobo]

13. 30 years ago, Democrats were fiercely against war

Now they defend drone attacks, indefinite detention, assassinations, cluster bombs, etc.

That is what is meant by "no moral compass".

It is true on both sides.

[Po_d Mainiac]

16. If we ever meet, the first round is on me..n/t

[Bonobo]

18. Gladly. Something nice on tap please. nt

[fascisthunter]

27. It is a Sad Realization of what has happened to the democratic party

I truly think since the GOP went far to the right, many republicans have some into our party and have taken it over by influence.

[Zoeisright]

19. The "hippies" hated government because it was sending them off to die in an unnecessary war.

Teabaggers don't understand what they hate. They mostly fear change, and they're too stupid to realize that the world and the country HAS changed. They are just railing against a black man as President.

At the core, they're scared, stupid, selfish, moronic, uneducated little bigots who have been brainwashed by FUX news lies.

[bighughdiehl]

21. Conservatives only....

hate government when it might benefit non-billionaires.
Observe: Wars everywhere, trillion dollar/yr military,
torture, warrantless wiretaps, GOOD, expanding health care
coverage BAD. Apart from the few consistent libertarian types,
The carping about the evils of "big government"
is one of the most disingenuous, hypocritical talking points
ever shat out of those anuses on their face.

[T S Justly]

23. Hippies don't hate government, but, they do dislike fascism. (nt) (nr)

[Dan]

24. Interesting,

I never thought that the Hippies hated the government, but rather wanted the government to live up to the "Ideals" that we promoted and indicated to the rest of the world - and that those "Ideals" expressed the actual values and beliefs of our nation.

There was the contradiction of life in America but also in our foreign policy via the proxy wars.

What the Hippies hated, in my opinion, was the H Y P O C R I S Y.

My thoughts...

[Honeycombe8]

28. I don't think the hippies were anti-government. Some of them were on the dole,

and they most certainly loved the government!

They were anti-war and anti-establishment (meaning anti-business-world, I think).

[whatchamacallit]

32. Interesting post

Throw in something about commies and welfare queens and the picture is complete.

[Honeycombe8]

36. I'm not speaking of what I've read. I was one of them. They were NOT anti-government in any way.

I was a bit young, but I was on the periphery of the hippie movement and considered going to Woodstock, but glad I didn't go.

They were generally in favor of food stamps, welfare, other ways to help the needy, Social Security, Medicare, etc.

What do have against being on the dole?

Got it? I knew that you could, given the chance to be educated. That's okay. I accept your apology.

[fascisthunter]

29. That's Not my Experience... they hated a Corrupt Government

the "left" still feels this way today.

[Brother Buzz]

33. 'hippies' did not advocate throwing the baby out with the bathwater