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Gun Rights Advocate Reveals Key Role In Writing Manchin-Toomey Background Checks Amendment
The Second Amendment Foundations Alan Gottlieb shared a little inside baseball about the recent Senate compromise on background checks for gun purchases with a group of supporters at a Portland, Oregon golf club Friday. According to Gottliebs speech, caught on camera by Daylight Disinfectants Dan Sandini, members of the gun rights organization were in the room with Senators Joe Manchin III (D-WV) and Pat Toomey (R-PA) when they were writing their amendment, with the intention of creating a pro-gun bill.
I spent hours and hours with Senator Manchin and Pat Toomey going over whats in that bill, Gottlieb told the crowd. He went on the outline the various protections he says he helped insert into the amendment that would prevent gun dealers from prison terms and lawsuits for failing to properly conduct the background checks that the bill is intended to require.
Its a Christmas Tree, Gottlieb asserted, and we just hung a million ornaments on it. Were taking the background check and making it a pro-gun bill. He predicted, this will probably break on Monday in the Wall Street Journal. So your getting a little inside baseball right now. He admitted that he was working to implement some background checks in an effort to prevent more comprehensive and effective legislation from passing in Congress. I think we snookered the other side, Gottlieb concluded, and they havent figured it out yet.
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Full article and VIDEO here: http://www.mediaite.com/online/watch-gun-rights-advocate-reveals-key-role-in-writing-manchin-toomey-background-checks-amendment/
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Gun Rights Advocate Reveals Key Role In Writing Manchin-Toomey Background Checks Amendment (Original Post)
Tx4obama
Apr 2013
OP
More likely all involved will call it a success and other legislation
ProgressiveProfessor
Apr 2013
#11
By the time things get done, it could be a net plus for gun rights
ProgressiveProfessor
Apr 2013
#14
The current compromise will help keep some guns out of the hands of the dumb and unmotivated.
aikoaiko
Apr 2013
#6
Why are you surprised? Gun control advocates were *always* going to get played.
friendly_iconoclast
Apr 2013
#8
To a certain extent this legislation is a product of the gun controllers rhetoric
aikoaiko
Apr 2013
#9
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)1. Kick! n/t
neverforget
(9,436 posts)2. Let the arms race begin
Oh wait, it's been on-going for years
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)3. What a farce. nt
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)4. The 'compromise' bill is worthless and toothless.
Let it die with the public seeing the truth rather than pass this crap off as reform.
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)11. More likely all involved will call it a success and other legislation
will fade away.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)12. It's the best the gun lobby could have hoped for. nt
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)14. By the time things get done, it could be a net plus for gun rights
depending on what amendments make it through the process and then the house.
Reid and the administration are looking for something they can take credit for, and this may well be all they get.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)5. K & R !!!
aikoaiko
(34,183 posts)6. The current compromise will help keep some guns out of the hands of the dumb and unmotivated.
That's something.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)7. The 'loophole' in it is too big ...
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As under current law, transfers between family, friends, and neighbors do not require background checks. You can give or sell a gun to your brother, your neighbor, your coworker without a background check. You can post a gun for sale on the cork bulletin board at your church or your job without a background check.
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Article here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022649387
So, folks can still privately sell their guns to ''... friends, family, and neighbors..." without background checks who may be felons and/or have mental issues.
And to folks at work and church that they might not even know.
That is a HUGE LOOPHOLE!
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)8. Why are you surprised? Gun control advocates were *always* going to get played.
The White House, for all their fine words, knew from the start that substantial new gun control
measures would never make it through the House.
aikoaiko
(34,183 posts)9. To a certain extent this legislation is a product of the gun controllers rhetoric
For years they screamed about the "gun show loophole". Now when a law is framed that way they are saying it needs to be more conprehensive. Well that's not what they've been selling for the last decade.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)10. I'm stunned to hear this.
STUNNED I SAY!
Blue Idaho
(5,057 posts)13. Do you remembr the days when government kept corporations in check
Instead of corporations keeping government in check?
Remember the NRA is just the weapons industry's lightening rod - ignore them and go directly after the gun makers and it will have outlived its usefulness.