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littlewolf

(3,813 posts)
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 09:11 PM Apr 2013

4 Nebraska cops fired caught on camera

http://www.photographyisnotacrime.com/2013/04/06/four-nebraska-cops-fired-after-caught-on-camera-chasing-man-into-home-to-steal-camera/


Four Nebraska cops were fired over an incident in which they tried their best to conceal, including beating a man and chasing his brother into a home to steal his camera all while unknowingly being recorded by another citizen from an upstairs window.

And another three officers were placed on leave and an additional officer was reassigned, according to the Associated Press.

However, Omaha Police Chief Todd Schmaderer refused to release any of the officers’ names, meaning they will likely get hired at another police department in the near future.
After all, as hard as it is to fire a cop, it is even harder to prevent him from getting rehired as a cop where he will likely continue his unlawful ways.
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4 Nebraska cops fired caught on camera (Original Post) littlewolf Apr 2013 OP
I remember that video here on DU. It looked really, really bad Warpy Apr 2013 #1
+1 Rex Apr 2013 #5
Yep malaise Apr 2013 #6
An AP article below with additional details... Tx4obama Apr 2013 #2
Good. nt Mnemosyne Apr 2013 #3
Just another day in a Red State. Wellstone ruled Apr 2013 #4
Yeah, this sort of thing would *never* happen in California or New York! Llewlladdwr Apr 2013 #42
You're wrong about the 4 cops named not released, premium Apr 2013 #7
According to the Associated Press, as picked up by the San Francisco Chronicle AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #9
He can't name those that were disciplined, premium Apr 2013 #10
So, are you prepared to guarantee that they will not be hired by other police departments? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #11
WTF should I have to guarantee it? premium Apr 2013 #13
No one has to guarantee that, but you "would bet that they won't get jobs in the U.S. as LEO's"? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #15
You really think ANY police dept. would hire these guys premium Apr 2013 #16
NYC needs goons like this. So does Oakland. So do many other cities. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #17
I guess you didn't read the article, premium Apr 2013 #24
You guess wrong. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #26
Talked to my brother last night about it, premium Apr 2013 #27
"he's going to incorporate the video into the training academy"? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #29
I can tell you for a fact that it doesn't exist in his Sheriff's Dept. premium Apr 2013 #31
These guys probably know that as well, and LVMPD could be a potential employer. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #33
I seriously doubt it. premium Apr 2013 #34
I've never seen a police department that didn't have the blue curtain. Gravitycollapse Apr 2013 #39
No premium Apr 2013 #40
it has happened Niceguy1 Apr 2013 #38
Those disciplined should show on a "Brady List." Downwinder Apr 2013 #12
Especially if, as the DA said, that there likely will be criminal charges brought` premium Apr 2013 #14
From a comment at the link: tblue37 Apr 2013 #20
Chances are they will be hired somewhere. You don't follow these type stories much I assume. n-t Logical Apr 2013 #25
The surveillance society saves us from Big Brother's minions. DeSwiss Apr 2013 #8
But fredzachmane Apr 2013 #18
So, if these two guys that got beat up mercymechap Apr 2013 #21
Just pondering on the fact that fredzachmane Apr 2013 #35
What I hear you saying is mercymechap Apr 2013 #41
I think the point here... Llewlladdwr Apr 2013 #43
I want to know what the alert was that brought so many cops. rhett o rick Apr 2013 #19
Yeah, what's up with that? mercymechap Apr 2013 #22
"Officer Down" might have done it, but "Traffic stop and a guy is taking pictures." shouldnt bring rhett o rick Apr 2013 #23
A parking complaint Oilwellian Apr 2013 #32
Thanks for that. Still I wonder what they said on their radio to get such a response. rhett o rick Apr 2013 #36
Actually, I got my doubts they will be hired nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #28
Good! nt City Lights Apr 2013 #30
good. Liberal_in_LA Apr 2013 #37

Warpy

(111,260 posts)
1. I remember that video here on DU. It looked really, really bad
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 09:16 PM
Apr 2013

What amazed me is how many other squad cars showed up to back up a couple of cops who were in the wrong from the beginning.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
4. Just another day in a Red State.
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 09:42 PM
Apr 2013

Hey,this turds will be right at home here in Udah. Kinda get use to these type of incidents here. 20k a year and all the shake down money you can get. Oh,forgot,all the pat down of the young female drivers. Bunch of perverts.

Llewlladdwr

(2,165 posts)
42. Yeah, this sort of thing would *never* happen in California or New York!
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 08:49 PM
Apr 2013

The cops there are angels I tell ya, angels...

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
7. You're wrong about the 4 cops named not released,
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 09:47 PM
Apr 2013

their names were released and if they try to get a job as a cop, or even a security guard, their names will come up in a background check.
I really doubt that they will ever be cops again in the U.S.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
9. According to the Associated Press, as picked up by the San Francisco Chronicle
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 09:57 PM
Apr 2013

"Police Chief ... Schmaderer declined to name the officers, saying the department's personnel policy prevents him from doing so until the investigation has been exhausted."

http://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/article/4-Omaha-officers-fired-for-excessive-force-arrests-4412426.php

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
10. He can't name those that were disciplined,
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 10:09 PM
Apr 2013

but here are the names of the 4 that were terminated.

http://www.omaha.com/article/20130405/NEWS/130409750/1694

The World-Herald has learned that the fired officers are Sgt. Aaron P. Von Behren and Officers Bradley D. Canterbury, James T. Kinsella and Justin A. Reeve:
 

premium

(3,731 posts)
13. WTF should I have to guarantee it?
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 10:42 PM
Apr 2013

That's not my job, but my brother is the Sheriff in the county I live in and they do extensive background checks, as I would assume that other LEA's do also, so I would bet that they won't get jobs in the U.S. as LEO's.

It's pretty easy to check someone's background these days.

BTW, are you prepared to admit that you were wrong about the 4 officers names not being released?

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
15. No one has to guarantee that, but you "would bet that they won't get jobs in the U.S. as LEO's"?
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 10:52 PM
Apr 2013

How much?

And how long would you bet that this "banishment" would last?

There are police departments who value police officers who deliver violence, including unnecessary and excessive violence.

Are you unfamiliar with the unnecessary and excessive Taser use in this country? Are you unfamiliar with the unnecessary and excessive pepper spraying? Are you unfamiliar with piling on of LEOs against civilians, including civilians who are handcuffed and otherwise unable to defend themselves?

If so, start with some Youtube clips. There are many out there. Then go to the Internet and start researching what the police have done, with the approval of their supervisors, against Occupy Wall Street protestors.

There are many police supervisors who not only approve of unnecessary and excessive violence, there are those who would be glad to hire someone with a proven track record.

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
16. You really think ANY police dept. would hire these guys
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 10:57 PM
Apr 2013

considering the notoriety attached to these 4 guys?
They may very well be criminally charged now and the FBI is looking to see if these 3 brothers civil rights were violated.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
17. NYC needs goons like this. So does Oakland. So do many other cities.
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 11:02 PM
Apr 2013

They may be criminally charged? And prosecuted?

By who? By Holder? He won't even prosecute openly-admitted war criminals.

Why would he prosecute any of them? Have they been selling medical marijuana on the side?

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
24. I guess you didn't read the article,
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 09:39 AM
Apr 2013
http://www.omaha.com/article/20130405/NEWS/130409750/1718

Douglas County Attorney Don Kleine declined to comment on any specifics of his investigation, saying it was too early to know whether any criminal charges would be filed. He did say charges were “certainly possible and, I think, likely.”


It's probably a safe bet that these guys won't be hired by any LEA again, but if you want to believe they will, have at it.
 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
26. You guess wrong.
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 10:49 AM
Apr 2013

Your belief that charges will be filed, in the face of the DA offsetting his "certainly possible and, I think, likely" with "too early to know," is wrong.

Your speculation that "It's probably a safe bet that these guys won't be hired by any LEA again" is wrong.

Have you noticed a general silence from the police departments and other agencies disapproving what they did? You say that your brother is the Sheriff in the county in which you live. Have you noticed that even he has probably refrained from publicly disapproving of what was done? These guys stick together. It's well known. It's called the Blue Wall of Silence. The only reason for these guys getting fired was the video footage. Youtube makes it easy to distribute video information.

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
27. Talked to my brother last night about it,
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 11:12 AM
Apr 2013

he wholly agrees with the terminations and told me that he's going to incorporate the video into the training academy of what not to do.

Just the fact that this video went viral pretty much guarantees that they will never work in any LEA again in the US, this is coming from my brother, whom I will trust more than some anonymous person on a chat board.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
29. "he's going to incorporate the video into the training academy"?
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 11:22 AM
Apr 2013

Let me know when, as part of the training, he instructs trainees to not be part of the Blue Wall of Silence.

The Blue Wall of Silence exists because LEOs cover up the criminality of other LEOs.

What would your brother's answer be if you asked whether the Blue Wall of Silence exists? Whether it exists in your State? Whether it exists in his Sheriff's Dept?

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
31. I can tell you for a fact that it doesn't exist in his Sheriff's Dept.
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 11:27 AM
Apr 2013

It probably does exist in the state, LVMPD being one of the worse in the state.
He won't even hire former LVMPD officers because of their reputation.

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
34. I seriously doubt it.
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 11:43 AM
Apr 2013

With the bad press that LVMPD has been getting here in the state, the last thing they need is for the news orgs. finding this out.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
39. I've never seen a police department that didn't have the blue curtain.
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 08:05 PM
Apr 2013

Your brother is most likely part of it.

The code silence is a pervasive problem in police departments. It's not spotted across the country. It is everywhere.

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
14. Especially if, as the DA said, that there likely will be criminal charges brought`
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 10:45 PM
Apr 2013

against them, and the FBI is also looking into whether the 3 brothers civil rights were violated.
I don't see any LEA hiring these guys ever.

tblue37

(65,357 posts)
20. From a comment at the link:
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 11:45 PM
Apr 2013

"The World-Herald has learned that the fired officers are Sgt. Aaron P.
Von Behren and Officers Bradley D. Canterbury, James T. Kinsella and
Justin A. Reeve.

http://www.omaha.com/article/2...

Still under investigation are Officers Dyea L. Rowland, Matthew C. Worm, John D. Payne and Joseph A. Koenig.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
25. Chances are they will be hired somewhere. You don't follow these type stories much I assume. n-t
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 10:42 AM
Apr 2013
 

fredzachmane

(85 posts)
35. Just pondering on the fact that
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 12:18 PM
Apr 2013

some of the same people who rail against police brutality and the emerging "police state" will enter a gun debate and state that we should give police a monopoly on force. This particular incident just helps to remind that someone doesn't magically become benevolent because they are a police officer.

mercymechap

(579 posts)
41. What I hear you saying is
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 08:43 PM
Apr 2013

that maybe "gun nuts" should not become cops! There will always be people who let power go to their head, that doesn't translate into letting everybody and their uncle own an assault weapon.

Llewlladdwr

(2,165 posts)
43. I think the point here...
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 08:51 PM
Apr 2013

...is that the freakin' cops shouldn't have guns.

They simply can't be trusted with them...

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
19. I want to know what the alert was that brought so many cops.
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 11:33 PM
Apr 2013

What could they have said to get that kind of response. I think the dept should be reviewing that procedure.

mercymechap

(579 posts)
22. Yeah, what's up with that?
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 01:28 AM
Apr 2013

I counted at least 8 police cars - for two guys? They obviously don't have enough to do.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
23. "Officer Down" might have done it, but "Traffic stop and a guy is taking pictures." shouldnt bring
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 08:39 AM
Apr 2013

that response.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
32. A parking complaint
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 11:32 AM
Apr 2013
snip

Police say they were called out to the area for a parking complaint when the response escalated to a disturbance.

snip

The family says officers demanded the phone but when Juaquez ran into the house to put it away, police rushed in throwing Sharon Johnson out of her wheelchair. Sharon says, “He came in and ran and he took my chair and he throws it up and just threw me back.” But a police report obtained by Action 3 News shows Johnson was pushed out of her wheel chair by Juaquez as he ran from officers. Sharon says, not true. “Other police officers just climbed over me and just start going over this way and jumping all over him.” said Sharon.

Johnson says police handcuffed her for a short time, arrested Juaquez and took his cell phone. The Omaha Police Department released this statement: “Chief (Todd) Schmaderer has authorized an internal investigation into the incident. The Omaha Police Department expects professionalism from all employees…there will be a comprehensive investigation into this incident….any violations will be addressed.”

http://www.photographyisnotacrime.com/2013/03/24/nebraska-police-chase-down-man-video-recording-their-abuse-while-second-man-video-records-it-all/
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
36. Thanks for that. Still I wonder what they said on their radio to get such a response.
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 01:31 PM
Apr 2013

Reporting a disturbance shouldnt get that response.

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